Jimmy Grimble
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[Albion] Mats Wieffer SINGS on 5 year contract
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herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Comedy pass followed by flukey deflection, shit happens. His bad hair also attracts vitriol.
Barely played, hopefully he'll get better.
Barely played, hopefully he'll get better.
Weststander
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A question for you.
Why did Estupinan and an Albion player in a similar position on the other wing pile forward into empty space?
It can’t be anything to do with a press, their opponents were behind them.
Jimmy Grimble
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FWIW, Wieffer has had moments of looking good but far more moments of looking sub-par.
Unfortunately, he is very close to 25, so doesn’t have as much allowance in regards to his performance levels as some of the other recent signings.
Unfortunately, he is very close to 25, so doesn’t have as much allowance in regards to his performance levels as some of the other recent signings.
Jimmy Grimble
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You never mentioned Estupinan in your original point if you’re playing that game.
Weststander
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Relax, it’s a friendly debate.
Throughout I’ve said that the entire Albion defence and DM’ers should’ve stayed back in defensive shape. Estupinan is a defender. I couldn’t have been clearer, I didn’t need to list them all.
Jimmy Grimble
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So like I said, you think it’s a tactical issue, we shouldn’t have pressed. Fair enough.
Personally I think FH knows it’s Wieffer’s fault but obviously can’t say it publicly. His philosophy is often to pursue a high press (especially given that we had spent too long on the back foot and needed to show some aggressive intent) and it was executed perfectly then let down by an embarrassing moment of play from one individual who showed the composure levels of a kid on the playground. After he lost the ball, no one really did much wrong.
It’s Wieffer’s fault. It’s one of those rare occasions where it is that simple.
Weststander
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Imho it’s not. That’s just error one. Goals are often conceded as a team affair, other errors had to happen for the ball to end up in our net almost the length of the pitch away.
Jimmy Grimble
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We’ll agree to disagree.
It’s such a bad error it will go down in Albion folklore like the Hawkins and Hinshelwood own goals at Withdean. It’ll still be being spoken about years from now, that’s why Wieffer has now got so much to do to turn his image around.
Ali_rrr
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Just want to say, I’m 27 now and played semi professionally in Holland since I came here. I moved here when I was 18, and if I played a pass like that I wouldn’t be welcome back in the changing room. Honestly, I wouldn’t even show my face.
It’s absolutely unacceptable in Sunday league level, never mind the top level of English football. Anyone who has played football, if your teammates did this in the last minute, how would you actually react? Fuming, is the answer. I’m sure we won’t see any behind the scenes for that game.
I, and I’m sure the same as many others, would have maybe accepted from a player who was tired and misplaced a pass who’d been running up and down the whole game, not from a lad who came on for 8 minutes. Pathetic. You can tell me we shouldn’t have committed so many bodies forward, I’d say we pressed it as was the game plan, hence why we only had 5 in defence against, by the way, bottom of the league. Anyone who blames the defence for not closing them down didn’t see the whole pitch.
I really hope for his sake he offers a public apology and shows what he really can because I and many others can really see what he has to offer. See; NL against Germany last week.
My two memories of him right now as a Brighton supporter is almost giving a goal away against Everton and the pass tonight.
This is coming from someone who has always backed the Dutch players to a tee, but it’s simply not good enough.
OzMike
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He is not good enough and it shows.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Are you sure you mean ‘Everton’ because he was really impressive at Goodison Park in August.
You must have a very selective memory or meant a different game - he was the holding MF and ran almost further than anyone else in the League in that game!
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Ali_rrr
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Are you sure you mean ‘Everton’ because he was really impressive at Goodison Park in August.
You must have a very selective memory or meant a different game - he was the holding MF and ran almost further than anyone else in the League in that game!
How Hurzeler is using Wieffer to unleash Brighton forwards
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He was on the edge of our box and he gave a massive chance away. It was at the beginning of the game, first 15-20 minutes, that’s all I remember.
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Are you sure you mean ‘Everton’ because he was really impressive at Goodison Park in August.
You must have a very selective memory or meant a different game - he was the holding MF and ran almost further than anyone else in the League in that game!
How Hurzeler is using Wieffer to unleash Brighton forwards
Adrian Clarke highlights summer signing's immediate impact at Brighton
Wieffer's error against Everton was what led to the Dunk penalty give-away (which was ultimately changed by referee Hooper). Around 4m 34s in these highlights:-
Yet….
Justice
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Carlos has given away 9 assists to the opposition and now he looks like he’s played in the PL all his career, give the guy a bit of time to adjust.
Bollocks. Its a professional footballer giving two points away in a home game. No one feels more shit, or is more annoyed by his mistake, than Mats Wieffer. Guarantee it.
Still too early to judge him with his stop-start Brighon start. Need another couple of months to even predict how it will turn out imho.
The goal isn’t Wieffers fault. Yeah his pass is dreadful and gives the ball away but he’s well into their half. Losing the ball that far up the pitch should not result in a goal down our end regardless. The fact that we didn’t defend it properly is really the fault here.
warmleyseagull
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I doubt Wolves fans are having having a go at Sa for the clearance to FK that set up the opening goal, or Doyle blasting over bar earlier, both mistakes as costly as MW’s.
Welbeck said afterwards thatt MW is an exceptional player. Not sure about that and he is competing against others, particularly MOR once fit, and Gomez once arrives in January, but some of the comments on here are way OTT.
Welbeck said afterwards thatt MW is an exceptional player. Not sure about that and he is competing against others, particularly MOR once fit, and Gomez once arrives in January, but some of the comments on here are way OTT.