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[Albion] Danny Welbeck.



nickjhs

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When did soccer/football become such a shibboleth in this country? I'm sure when I was a small child in the 90s it wasn't seen as that weird to call it soccer, and I can't imagine things like Soccer Saturday would be called that if it had been considered such a big deal, notwithstanding the obvious appeal of the alliteration.
I think it's because the Yanks got hold of it and pretty much changed "soccer" from being a nickname to its actual name. So calling Football, soccer sounds like an americanisation of the name and there is now an understandable push back against this. The truth is that the nickname "soccer" comes from the old name of Association Football
 
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JetsetJimbo

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I think it's because the Yanks got hold of it and pretty much changed "soccer" from being a nickname to its actual name. So calling Football, soccer sounds like an americanisation of the name and there is now an understandable push back against this. The truth is that the nickname "soccer" comes from the old name of Association Football
You're not wrong, but there's a bit more to it. The word "soccer" tended to be used in England by the upper classes, to distinguish it from their preferred form of football, the one they colloquially called "rugger" (i.e. rugby).

So the working classes who made up English football crowds in the early part of the last century were never very keen on the word soccer.
 


American Seagle

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:rolleyes:

The medical and injury status of our players is discussed all the time. If a player has an ACL or break medical staff will know as soon as it is confirmed. They tell the club and the head coach then tells the press (de facto tells EVERYONE) at a press conference. During Covid everyone knew who had tested positive.

It's baffling that you can't see this.
With the permission of the player no doubt.
 


American Seagle

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I seem to be saying it a lot recently, but this is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read on this site.

Do you think emergency services have their own pubs or something? We’ve reached a point where “A man met one of he friends in a pub” is now a potential clue to some grand deception. F*ck me.
The story requires a cascade of coincidences. It's unlikely to have occurred.
 






nickjhs

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You're not wrong, but there's a bit more to it. The word "soccer" tended to be used in England by the upper classes, to distinguish it from their preferred form of football, the one they colloquially called "rugger" (i.e. rugby).

So the working classes who made up English football crowds in the early part of the last century were never very keen on the word soccer.
Yep, makes sense, only that lot could turn association into soccer. But when I grew up "soccer" was an acceptable term for playing football. I started cracking the shits with it when I came to Aus, and every time I said football the response was "oh you mean soccer" to which I have responded for 35 years with No I mean football, you know, the game whose world cup is the largest viewed sporting event by a frigging huge margin.
 


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This thread is why I love NSC

In depth heated discussion on the USA, Sussex County Hospital, Swedish football posters.
Paramedics drinking habits in a far flung Northern outpost, Paramedics drinking habits anywhere in the World, the state of the NHS, torso surgery, it’s all here

I forgot that we are all on here to find out how Evan Ferguson actually is!
 






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This thread is why I love NSC

In depth heated discussion on the USA, Sussex County Hospital, Swedish football posters.
Paramedics drinking habits in a far flung Northern outpost, Paramedics drinking habits anywhere in the World, the state of the NHS, torso surgery, it’s all here

I forgot that we are all on here to find out how Evan Ferguson actually is!

I had a similar thought yesterday, like watching a car crash in slow motion, drawn in, unable to look away, then wishing I hadn't seen all the gory detail when all I wanted to know was, is Danny okay? 😳
 


nickjhs

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I'm on here to find out how DANNY WELBECK is recovering.
Ah stop it, the game is called football only a complete wanker would call it soccer in opposition to calling it football, and it's quite a common thing in the UK to have a pint and maybe a debrief after a shift, even if that means setting a concerned football fan at ease by letting them know a star player isn't too seriously injured. Far Far more important than knowing how Welbz actually is. Also if you read all the posts you would realise that the bloke having a pint and debriefing told us that Welbz wasn't too serious injured and should make a quick recovery :D
 
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You're not wrong, but there's a bit more to it. The word "soccer" tended to be used in England by the upper classes, to distinguish it from their preferred form of football, the one they colloquially called "rugger" (i.e. rugby).

So the working classes who made up English football crowds in the early part of the last century were never very keen on the word soccer.
While there may be some truth in this going back about 120years or so, it doesn't get any closer to answering why calling it soccer seems to have become unacceptable for so many people relatively recently.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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While there may be some truth in this going back about 120years or so, it doesn't get any closer to answering why calling it soccer seems to have become unacceptable for so many people relatively recently.
And yet no one raises an eyebrow at all the twankers (twats/wankers) on here who use 'movies' for films or 'seasons' for series. Piss off and live in Cincinnati if you're gonna be droppin' that shizz around these parts. Absolute c-units.
 


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So, how is Danny? I had a weird dream about him last night, which I can't divulge. Mostly because I can't remember it, I don't think it was rude.
 




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Have you learned absolutely nothing from every single reply to your original comment? Are you a Swansman alt. account? It’s a really, really bad look.
They have not told me anything I didn't already know. As I said, I think the story is unlikely for the previous reasons stated.
 




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They have not told me anything I didn't already know. As I said, I think the story is unlikely for the previous reasons stated.
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As I’m sure most people know, soccer was the shortened term for asSOCiation football just as rugger was short for RUGby football. It was widely used in England up to the 80s or so when it suddenly became an alien word. Remember Star Soccer on TV in the 60s/70s? Became the Big Match. It’s us who have changed, not the Americans.
As seen also in English language. Much of American chat today would be instantly familiar to the ears of 17th century Bristolian peasants.
 




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I suspect it's the pronunciation.

Succour.

That eyeball-insult of a game between Palarse and Forest the other night was as far from succour as a 90 minute spectation can possibly be.

I had literally lost 15% of my soul by the time the final whistle went. It's now a horcrux in Will Hughes' kit bag.
Apart from “succour ” you then have the common English terminology for describing the game that’s massacred, so for example :

1-0, one nil, becomes one to nothing.

2-2, two all, becomes two goals each.

3-3, that’s a draw, becomes that’s a tie.

Dressing room - locker room

And finally, the fans FFS! Love ‘em really, but they just don’t get it.

I’m sure there’s a load more but you get my drift. :thumbsup:
 


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Apart from “succour ” you then have the common English terminology for describing the game that’s massacred, so for example :

1-0, one nil, becomes one to nothing.

2-2, two all, becomes two goals each.

3-3, that’s a draw, becomes that’s a tie.

Dressing room - locker room

And finally, the fans FFS! Love ‘em really, but they just don’t get it.

I’m sure there’s a load more but you get my drift. :thumbsup:
Jerseys - shirts
Field - pitch
cleats - boots
shut out - Clean sheet
PK - penalty

Just off the top of my head
 


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