[Albion] Newcastle United vs Brighton & Hove Albion * Official Match Thread *

Hugo Rune · 2024-10-21T08:22:45+0100

Rogero said:
Very interesting comments re Brighton

A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home… Really?

Hearing and reading… ‘A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home’

www.themag.co.uk

I like this table. Our loan army obviously increases our squad worth massively.

Muzzman · 2024-10-21T08:46:10+0100

Rogero said:
Very interesting comments re Brighton

A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home… Really?

Hearing and reading… ‘A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home’

www.themag.co.uk

Blimey. Still blaming Ashley I see... :laugh:

Safe. · 2024-10-21T08:51:04+0100

Rogero said:
Very interesting comments re Brighton

A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home… Really?

Hearing and reading… ‘A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home’

www.themag.co.uk

Nonsense article, wrote to make us sound like the financial dopers if anything.
They didn't have to spend as much when they come up for example as they already had a more expensive squad with prem experience on way higher wages. We've sold way more players too since then.
Very low quality journalism.

Greg Bobkin · 2024-10-21T09:26:51+0100

Rogero said:
Very interesting comments re Brighton

A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home… Really?

Hearing and reading… ‘A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home’

www.themag.co.uk

That was a bit TL;DR for me, but I read the bit about 'net spend' - especially this season - with interest.

I'm not sure how many of the millions of pounds of new talent featured in the Albion's starting 11 (I can only think of Rutter), but I'm not sure it's that close to the total spent. Let's face it - on paper (or teamsheet), the Barcodes should've won. But they didn't - and that's football :shrug:

Happy Exile · 2024-10-21T09:35:08+0100

I've posted on here before about most of my family being Newcastle fans - my grandfather was from Blaydon and a huge Newcastle supporter and we've got strong ties to the area. Before the game I visited the memorial stone outside the ground to both my grandfather and my uncle which was special, and have to say I loved the friendly Newcastle stewards who joined me in the search for it and wished Brighton well ("just not today").

I loved less the fact the away positioning makes the far goal so distant it's practically in a different time zone but the view from the stand across to the Tyne Bridge, which I know family were at the opening of in 1928, was fantastic. A real sense of family and history interconnectedness through football even if the stripes are a different colour. Up there as one of my favourite away trips for a long time.

drew · 2024-10-21T09:58:51+0100

Don't really see anything wrong with that article. Yes, they continue to be in a bit of denial about Ashley and forget that, whilst he didn't invest huge amounts, he kept the club pretty much debt free and solvent. Surely nobody on here can deny that we are where we are due entirely to TB's investment.

schmunk · 2024-10-21T10:15:20+0100

Greg Bobkin said:
That was a bit TL;DR for me, but I read the bit about 'net spend' - especially this season - with interest.

I'm not sure how many of the millions of pounds of new talent featured in the Albion's starting 11 (I can only think of Rutter), but I'm not sure it's that close to the total spent. Let's face it - on paper (or teamsheet), the Barcodes should've won. But they didn't - and that's football

Using Transfermarkt, which I'm aware is flawed, but using the same logic as in the above article "it's flawed for both teams so it's hard to argue that it's incorrect..."

This is *fees paid* not current value, rounded down to the nearest €1M:

Newcastle starting XI:
Pope - €11M
Livramento - €37M
Cher - €4M
Burn - €15M
Hall - €33M
Guimaraes - €42M
Joelinton - €43M
Tonali - €64M
Murphy - €11M
Isak - €70M
Gordon - €45M

TOTAL: €375M(THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE MILLION EUROS)

Albion starting XI:
Verbruggen - €20M
Veltman - €1M
Dunk - €NIL
Igor - €16M
Kadioglu - €30M
Baleba - €27M
Hinshelwood - €ZIP
Rutter - €46M
Ayari - €4M
Ferguson - €Unknown, but lets say 2M to be generous given he joined from the League of Ireland aged 16
Welbeck - €NADA

TOTAL: €146M (MUCH LESS THAN THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE MILLION EUROS)

Peacehaven Wild Kids · 2024-10-21T11:03:54+0100

Professor Plum · 2024-10-21T12:19:38+0100

Safe. said:
Nonsense article, wrote to make us sound like the financial dopers if anything.
They didn't have to spend as much when they come up for example as they already had a more expensive squad with prem experience on way higher wages. We've sold way more players too since then.
Very low quality journalism.

I didn’t read it as an attack on us. If anything, the opposite. He’s having a go at people who downplay the progress made by Brighton. He’s saying that we've invested cautiously but wisely over the last several years while his own club wasted years under Ashley by not investing in the foundations of the club. The table he shows is there to illustrate just how successful we’ve been in our transfer dealings.

Machiavelli · 2024-10-21T15:09:38+0100

Happy Exile said:
I've posted on here before about most of my family being Newcastle fans - my grandfather was from Blaydon and a huge Newcastle supporter and we've got strong ties to the area. Before the game I visited the memorial stone outside the ground to both my grandfather and my uncle which was special, and have to say I loved the friendly Newcastle stewards who joined me in the search for it and wished Brighton well ("just not today").

I loved less the fact the away positioning makes the far goal so distant it's practically in a different time zone but the view from the stand across to the Tyne Bridge, which I know family were at the opening of in 1928, was fantastic. A real sense of family and history interconnectedness through football even if the stripes are a different colour. Up there as one of my favourite away trips for a long time.

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Thanks for posting this. I've been there 3 times I think, and every time has been sensational -- it's the best away trip. And yes you're right about their disgraceful positioning of away fans, but you've also illustrated perfectly that there are certain compensations to it.

nickbrighton · 2024-10-21T15:49:48+0100

Machiavelli said:
Thanks for posting this. I've been there 3 times I think, and every time has been sensational -- it's the best away trip. And yes you're right about their disgraceful positioning of away fans, but you've also illustrated perfectly that there are certain compensations to it.

I'm not sure its disgraceful positioning of away fans as such, aren't we about to move the away fans to away from the goal to give Brighton as much as a crowd advantage as possible. Its long been a contentious issue that at the Amex, away fans are right behind the goal and not up in the top tier as far away as possible

Dick Swiveller · 2024-10-21T16:00:34+0100

nickbrighton said:
I'm not sure its disgraceful positioning of away fans as such, aren't we about to move the away fans to away from the goal to give Brighton as much as a crowd advantage as possible. Its long been a contentious issue that at the Amex, away fans are right behind the goal and not up in the top tier as far away as possible

Not the same at all. Rule R.11 from the PL Handbook

R.11. The tickets referred to in Rule R.9 must: R.11.1. be made available to the Visiting Club in blocks corresponding to the blocks of seating (“Seating Blocks”) in the area of the Home Club’s Stadium for supporters of the Visiting Club, such Seating Blocks to be designated by reference to the points at which segregation of supporters of the Home and Visiting Clubs can occur (and, for the avoidance of doubt, there shall be no maximum or minimum number of seats in a Seating Block and any question as to the size of a Seating Block or the location of a segregation point shall be determined by the Board); R.11.2. be allocated so as to ensure that supporters of the Visiting Club are located in one or more segregated, self-contained area(s) of the Stadium; and R.11.3. (subject to the approval of the relevant local authority) be allocated so as to ensure that, at a minimum, one Seating Block in which supporters of the Visiting Club will be located is situated ‘pitch-side’ (i.e. the front row of such Seating Block is the row closest to the pitch in the relevant stand that is available for general admission).

Sid and the Sharknados · 2024-10-21T18:46:57+0100

Apropos of nothing, I keep getting text messages encouraging me to donate blood in Newcastle, and I'm now pretty sure this is entirely down to concern over how pale Anthony Gordon is.

brighton_tom · 2024-10-21T19:35:10+0100

Rogero said:
Very interesting comments re Brighton

A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home… Really?

Hearing and reading… ‘A disgrace Newcastle United losing to likes of Brighton at home’

www.themag.co.uk

A Newcastle fan giving a very 'interesting' take on our success. That article is basically trying to say ''its fine to lose to Brighton, they've spent loads of money, all funded by Uncle Tony'' while failing to really give any details on the conveyor belt of players we've lost, and hundreds of millions in sales we've generated.

Wardy's twin · 2024-10-21T19:45:41+0100

nickbrighton said:
I'm not sure its disgraceful positioning of away fans as such, aren't we about to move the away fans to away from the goal to give Brighton as much as a crowd advantage as possible. Its long been a contentious issue that at the Amex, away fans are right behind the goal and not up in the top tier as far away as possible

Compared to every other club it's disgraceful, but it's also the reality of large stadiums . I would hate to be a fan at whufc or spurs sitting in the back row 150 metres up every week.

Questions · 2024-10-21T19:53:08+0100

brighton_tom said:
A Newcastle fan giving a very 'interesting' take on our success. That article is basically trying to say ''its fine to lose to Brighton, they've spent loads of money, all funded by Uncle Tony'' while failing to really give any details on the conveyor belt of players we've lost, and hundreds of millions in sales we've generated.

Ended up ok but for a moment I felt he was criticising Tony.

drew · 2024-10-21T20:00:26+0100

nickbrighton said:
I'm not sure its disgraceful positioning of away fans as such, aren't we about to move the away fans to away from the goal to give Brighton as much as a crowd advantage as possible. Its long been a contentious issue that at the Amex, away fans are right behind the goal and not up in the top tier as far away as possible

As Dick Swiveller has pointed out, the rules require a pitch side block for some away fans. I'm not aware of any other prem club that doesn't adhere to that rule. As for our move, away fans will still be pitch side so it meets the criteria.

Sid and the Sharknados · 2024-10-21T20:02:29+0100

brighton_tom said:
A Newcastle fan giving a very 'interesting' take on our success. That article is basically trying to say ''its fine to lose to Brighton, they've spent loads of money, all funded by Uncle Tony'' while failing to really give any details on the conveyor belt of players we've lost, and hundreds of millions in sales we've generated.

When I speak to Newcastle supporters, they tend to wax lyrical about how well run Brighton are to the point that it becomes quite embarrassing. They also moan at length about how depressing it was having Mike Ashley not invest in the club to push for any sort of progression or success.

From that perspective, the article reads like a straightforwardly positive appraisal of how we've built ourselves up over the last however many years to be competitive in the Premier League.

el punal · 2024-10-21T20:06:31+0100

Sid and the Sharknados said:
Apropos of nothing, I keep getting text messages encouraging me to donate blood in Newcastle, and I'm now pretty sure this is entirely down to concern over how pale Anthony Gordon is.

I must admit it is a bit of a concern. I wonder if he travelled to Newcastle in a wooden box via Whitby. :wink:

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