[Albion] Igor Julio - SINGS for 4 years!

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 20, 2024

Undoubtedly not in the team when everyone is fit. But he's come in and done well. Well done to him.

He's done enough to be considered 3rd choice in my view. Webby will have to bide his time. A player I like, but he's had, what 10 x 6 weeks ish injuries since he's been here? You just can't build together the form to achieve your potential.

Dunk
Van Hecke
Igor
Webby
Veltman

Is the CB pecking order in my opinion

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 20, 2024

The other issues here is Boscagli

Igor is basically making a case that we don't need to go get him in January. He's doing well.

Terry Butcher Tribute Act · Oct 20, 2024

There was a bit of rewriting history about him when RDZ got the boot. He's always been alright. Capable of a blinder or a stinker. But he's a useful squad player.

aolstudios · Oct 20, 2024

Nobby Cybergoat said:
Undoubtedly not in the team when everyone is fit. But he's come in and done well. Well done to him.

He's done enough to be considered 3rd choice in my view. Webby will have to bide his time. A player I like, but he's had, what 10 x 6 weeks ish injuries since he's been here? You just can't build together the form to achieve your potential.

Dunk
Van Hecke
Igor
Webby
Veltman

Is the CB pecking order in my opinion

I'd move each Dutchman up a place

One Teddy Maybank · Oct 20, 2024

Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:
There was a bit of rewriting history about him when RDZ got the boot. He's always been alright. Capable of a blinder or a stinker. But he's a useful squad player.

Sorry Terry, disagree.

He was awful at times under RdZ, (and I don’t recall any blinders), often out of position, ponderous on the ball and struggled in most games, but yesterday was his best game by some margin, and if he plays to that level he’s a good understudy.

Terry Butcher Tribute Act · Oct 20, 2024

One Teddy Maybank said:
Sorry Terry, disagree.

He was awful at times under RdZ, (and I don’t recall any blinders), often out of position, ponderous on the ball and struggled in most games, but yesterday was his best game by some margin, and if he plays to that level he’s a good understudy.

Well i disagree. Yesterday might have been his best game but he was very good in Athens, when we beat Marseille at the Amex, when we won a hard game v Brentford last Christmas time and I'm sure, plenty of others. He was however involved in the Roma and Luton debacles.

Basically, he's not a bad player. But not as good as JP or Dunk.

Seagull58 · Oct 20, 2024

pigmanovich said:
Assured performance yesterday, even went on a few marauding runs into midfield that recalled Baleba.

Unfortunately he is very similar to Webby as far as the marauding runs go; he often ends up losing the ball.

pigmanovich · Oct 20, 2024

Seagull58 said:
Unfortunately he is very similar to Webby as far as the marauding runs go; he often ends up losing the ball.

Don’t recall him losing it much yesterday.

Seagull58 · Oct 20, 2024

pigmanovich said:
Don’t recall him losing it much yesterday.

He lost it 2 or 3 times, either by pushing it too far ahead or trying a fancy turn/trick that didnt fool the oppo..

GT49er · Oct 20, 2024

Seagull58 said:
Unfortunately he is very similar to Webby as far as the marauding runs go; he often ends up losing the ball.

TBH, that is the most common outcome of marauding runs.

One Teddy Maybank · Oct 20, 2024

Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:
Well i disagree. Yesterday might have been his best game but he was very good in Athens, when we beat Marseille at the Amex, when we won a hard game v Brentford last Christmas time and I'm sure, plenty of others. He was however involved in the Roma and Luton debacles.

Basically, he's not a bad player. But not as good as JP or Dunk.

That’s fair enough, will have to disagree.

chickens · Oct 21, 2024

I have to say I’m coming round to Igor being a solid part of the squad. He’s not been hugely noticeable for me watching the last couple of matches, but he just quietly gets on with it, and every now and then there’s a moment of real quality on the ball.

I’m slowly becoming a fan.

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 21, 2024

chickens said:
I have to say I’m coming round to Igor being a solid part of the squad. He’s not been hugely noticeable for me watching the last couple of matches, but he just quietly gets on with it, and every now and then there’s a moment of real quality on the ball.

I’m slowly becoming a fan.

What I think we can say with certainty, is that the posters who just dismissed him as shit, are completely wrong.

He's been solid and effective and has done a decent job for us.

hans kraay fan club · Oct 21, 2024

Nobby Cybergoat said:
What I think we can say with certainty, is that the posters who just dismissed him as shit, are completely wrong.

He's been solid and effective and has done a decent job for us.

I declared him shit after his showing on our Europa League debut, against AEK. And I (and anyone else expressing that) was absolutely not 'completely wrong'. He really was utterly dreadful.

But he's proven to be a far better player than he looked that night, so fair play.

He's really not good enough to be anything more than a back up though - he just switches off, too often. Even yesterday, in a game being held up as his 'best yet', it was him who switched off and played Isak onside for what should have been the game's opening goal.

Gabbiano · Oct 21, 2024

One Teddy Maybank said:
Sorry Terry, disagree.

Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:
Well i disagree.

One Teddy Maybank said:
That’s fair enough, will have to disagree.

So we're all in agreement?

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 21, 2024

hans kraay fan club said:
I declared him shit after his showing on our Europa League debut, against AEK. And I (and anyone else expressing that) was absolutely not 'completely wrong'. He really was utterly dreadful.

OK

But you have presumably observed that there have been other players who, for whatever reason have put in a bad performance for the club, but who are not shit?

hans kraay fan club · Oct 21, 2024

Nobby Cybergoat said:
OK

But you have presumably observed that there have been other players who, for whatever reason have put in a bad performance for the club, but who are not shit?

Obviously

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 21, 2024

hans kraay fan club said:
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Oh and yes, you're right that he's in the wrong position here.

But if you tried, you could dig out a still from this season of every member of our backline who's got caught following a man rather than holding the line. Veltman against Forest, Ferdi against Spurs both cost us goals. And as for the Chelsea game!

This way of playing is going to take a lot of getting used to for our defenders. A minor lapse in concentration can easily result in a big chance. But it's got us up to 5th

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 21, 2024

Nobby Cybergoat said:
OK

But you have presumably observed that there have been other players who, for whatever reason have put in a bad performance for the club, but who are not shit?

And so are you happy that you weren't a bit hasty in labelling him shit after that one bad game?

hans kraay fan club · Oct 21, 2024

Nobby Cybergoat said:
And so are you happy that you weren't a bit hasty in labelling him shit after that one bad game?

Well that depends if I labelled him as 'shit', or as 'shit in that game'. Because the former would be premature, and thus harsh. the latter would have been entirely correct.

Anyhow - go to page 25 of this thread, and you'll see that I already accepted very clearly, that he IS better than my initial fears:

hans kraay fan club said:
I’d like it on the official NSC record, that I was completely WRONG about Igor, after witnessing his first performance at home to AEK.

That’s not to say he’s wasn’t awful that night - but based on that showing - clumsy, careless and painfully slow - I wrote him off.

I did so way too soon, as it turns out. He’s made constant improvement game on game, and I’d actually keep him in alongside Dunk (over JPVH) on Saturday.

He simply cannot have been fit in that first game and probably shouldn’t have been asked to play it.

Anyway. Me = wrong. Igor = decent.

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