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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 2 0.6%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 128 37.6%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 192 56.5%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 18 5.3%
  • Total voters
    340
  • This poll will close: .


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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
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For so many reasons, I cannot wait for this shitshow to be over in November. Clearly, if Trump loses, it may drag on longer than that, but the whole thing - the candidates, the commentary and the slanging matches on here are getting pretty tedious.
 




Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,442
Greg Bobkin said:
For so many reasons, I cannot wait for this shitshow to be over in November. Clearly, if Trump loses, it may drag on longer than that, but the whole thing - the candidates, the commentary and the slanging matches on here are getting pretty tedious.
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I think you‘re on the wrong thread - use the ignore button 🙂
 


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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,804
Zeberdi said:
I think you‘re on the wrong thread - use the ignore button 🙂
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Err, no thanks.

There's plenty on this thread that I'm interested in, just can't be doing with the pontificating and points-scoring - on both 'sides'.
 


Mental Lental

Mental Lental

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,291
Shiki-shi, Saitama
Greg Bobkin said:
Err, no thanks.

There's plenty on this thread that I'm interested in, just can't be doing with the pontificating and points-scoring - on both 'sides'.
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It's like one of those transfer rumour threads that suddenly get an extra 7 pages worth of posts, enough to make you think "ooh there might be some movement on this one." Then you have to read through 7 pages of binfestery to find out that the rumoured signing is no nearer to joining the club than he was the last time you checked the thread.
 


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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,804
Mental Lental said:
It's like one of those transfer rumour threads that suddenly get an extra 7 pages worth of posts, enough to make you think "ooh there might be some movement on this one." Then you have to read through 7 pages of binfestery to find out that the rumoured signing is no nearer to joining the club than he was the last time you checked the thread.
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Ha ha! That's very true.
 




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marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
4,219
peterward said:
Quality Kamala. How to take down MAGA hecklers!

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In stark contrast to the humourless and threatening manner in which Trump deals with hecklers which usually involves suggestions and intimations that they deserve to have violence used against them.
And knowing full well that there will be more than a few amongst his MAGA audience who would be happy to oblige.

Even when the heckler is a woman it doesnt stop him, as happened only a few days ago.....

 
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BadFish

BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,987
marlowe said:
In stark contrast to the humourless and threatening manner in which Trump deals with hecklers which usually involves suggestions and intimations that they deserve to have violence used against them.
And knowing full well that there will be more than a few amongst his MAGA audience who would be happy to oblige.

Even when the heckler is a woman it doesnt stop him, as happened only a few days ago.....

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Fun Fact: The guy they interviewed is actually Drit Girls brother.

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BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
17,987
Does anyone feel that the political rallies are a symptom of a flawed democracy? Are there equivalents in the UK the party conferences?

I find it amazing that anyone has enough love for a politician to go and cheer them on at a rally like a rock star. In a healthy democracy surely the role of the voters is to hold them to account and ensure that they are doing what they promised. This shit, surely means they can be forgiven for thinking they are untouchable and can do what they want.

I do understand my bias here as I cannot conceive of a politician that I thought was good enough for me to go dress up, hold placards and cheer for. The closest I think I got was having a bit of a celebrate when Tony Blair beat the Tories, but this was more to do with a dislike of the tories than a love for Tony.

Would anyone else attend such an event?
 




Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,442
Greg Bobkin said:
Err, no thanks.

There's plenty on this thread that I'm interested in, just can't be doing with the pontificating and points-scoring - on both 'sides'.
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You must be new to NSC.

That can be said of all the political threads.

In fact 90% of threads on NSC. :lol:
 


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5Ways Gull

È quello che è
Feb 2, 2009
1,124
Fiveways, Brighton
BadFish said:
Does anyone feel that the political rallies are a symptom of a flawed democracy? Are there equivalents in the UK the party conferences?

I find it amazing that anyone has enough love for a politician to go and cheer them on at a rally like a rock star. In a healthy democracy surely the role of the voters is to hold them to account and ensure that they are doing what they promised. This shit, surely means they can be forgiven for thinking they are untouchable and can do what they want.

I do understand my bias here as I cannot conceive of a politician that I thought was good enough for me to go dress up, hold placards and cheer for. The closest I think I got was having a bit of a celebrate when Tony Blair beat the Tories, but this was more to do with a dislike of the tories than a love for Tony.

Would anyone else attend such an event?
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Excellent point very well made, and no I absolutely wouldn't.
 


Klaas

Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,638
BadFish said:
Does anyone feel that the political rallies are a symptom of a flawed democracy? Are there equivalents in the UK the party conferences?

I find it amazing that anyone has enough love for a politician to go and cheer them on at a rally like a rock star. In a healthy democracy surely the role of the voters is to hold them to account and ensure that they are doing what they promised. This shit, surely means they can be forgiven for thinking they are untouchable and can do what they want.

I do understand my bias here as I cannot conceive of a politician that I thought was good enough for me to go dress up, hold placards and cheer for. The closest I think I got was having a bit of a celebrate when Tony Blair beat the Tories, but this was more to do with a dislike of the tories than a love for Tony.

Would anyone else attend such an event?
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Definitely not, you're right, it is bizarre. I even find the people who go along to cheer at Downing Street after an election win a bit weird too. I mean, I'm really happy that the tories got kicked out. But go and whoop and holler for some poilticians???
 




peterward

peterward

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NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
12,100
Can see where this is going. Either Trump wins, or if Harris does, he again tries to use fake electors to nominate him over the states voters, puts pressure on state governors not to certify and tries to get in via court based Shenanighans.

Stop the Steal 2, the return of the Coup.


www.independent.co.uk

Election deniers will return as Trump’s official electors in key states

In battleground states that could determine the outcome of the election, multiple election deniers or people involved in ‘fake elector’ schemes are serving as official Republican electors
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 


Commander

Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
13,466
London
BadFish said:
Does anyone feel that the political rallies are a symptom of a flawed democracy? Are there equivalents in the UK the party conferences?

I find it amazing that anyone has enough love for a politician to go and cheer them on at a rally like a rock star. In a healthy democracy surely the role of the voters is to hold them to account and ensure that they are doing what they promised. This shit, surely means they can be forgiven for thinking they are untouchable and can do what they want.

I do understand my bias here as I cannot conceive of a politician that I thought was good enough for me to go dress up, hold placards and cheer for. The closest I think I got was having a bit of a celebrate when Tony Blair beat the Tories, but this was more to do with a dislike of the tories than a love for Tony.

Would anyone else attend such an event?
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It is very weird. But then America is a very weird place.
 


nwgull

nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,457
Manchester
BadFish said:
Does anyone feel that the political rallies are a symptom of a flawed democracy? Are there equivalents in the UK the party conferences?

I find it amazing that anyone has enough love for a politician to go and cheer them on at a rally like a rock star. In a healthy democracy surely the role of the voters is to hold them to account and ensure that they are doing what they promised. This shit, surely means they can be forgiven for thinking they are untouchable and can do what they want.

I do understand my bias here as I cannot conceive of a politician that I thought was good enough for me to go dress up, hold placards and cheer for. The closest I think I got was having a bit of a celebrate when Tony Blair beat the Tories, but this was more to do with a dislike of the tories than a love for Tony.

Would anyone else attend such an event?
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Just American culture, innit? They have big pep rallies for their sports teams pre-season or before a big game and stuff like that.

Can you imagine a pre-season BHA pep rally? Hurzeler and Dunk would give rousing speeches about making this our winningest season with fans all shouting ‘Woo yeh! Go Seagulls! Eagles suck!’
 




Peteinblack

Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
4,088
Bath, Somerset.
Klaas said:
Definitely not, you're right, it is bizarre. I even find the people who go along to cheer at Downing Street after an election win a bit weird too. I mean, I'm really happy that the tories got kicked out. But go and whoop and holler for some poilticians???
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Those people are usually party apparatchiks, not random supporters of the winning Party, or passing members of the public. It's all pre-arranged and stage-managed; even the little flags they wave are handed out to them by the organisers.
 


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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,804
Zeberdi said:
You must be new to NSC.

That can be said of all the political threads.

In fact 90% of threads on NSC. :lol:
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Sure. But that's got fack all to do with me ignoring threads. Maybe if it was 100%...
 


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marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
4,219
BadFish said:
Does anyone feel that the political rallies are a symptom of a flawed democracy? Are there equivalents in the UK the party conferences?

I find it amazing that anyone has enough love for a politician to go and cheer them on at a rally like a rock star. In a healthy democracy surely the role of the voters is to hold them to account and ensure that they are doing what they promised. This shit, surely means they can be forgiven for thinking they are untouchable and can do what they want.

I do understand my bias here as I cannot conceive of a politician that I thought was good enough for me to go dress up, hold placards and cheer for. The closest I think I got was having a bit of a celebrate when Tony Blair beat the Tories, but this was more to do with a dislike of the tories than a love for Tony.

Would anyone else attend such an event?
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Certainly not in the UK but I believe such ralliies were once quite popular in countries such as Germany. I think there was a rally held in Nuremburg in 1933 which was quite well attended and with the crowd showing MAGA levels of fervour and enthusiasm for the politician deliverng his speech.
 






jcdenton08

jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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nwgull said:
Just American culture, innit? They have big pep rallies for their sports teams pre-season or before a big game and stuff like that.

Can you imagine a pre-season BHA pep rally? Hurzeler and Dunk would give rousing speeches about making this our winningest season with fans all shouting ‘Woo yeh! Go Seagulls! Eagles suck!’
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Oh PLEASE make this happen.
 




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