Have you not seen enough (particularly over the last 7-8 years) to think this very unlikely?
It's all too easy, when you're sitting in an echo chamber like this surrounded by people who think that Boris Johnson and Adolf Hitler are similar politicians, to believe the guff about Badenoch and Jenrick are lunatic right wingers. For heaven's sake, there are people on here who despised Sunak's government because it wasn't welcoming to immigrants and was cutting taxes. Reality is not needed in political beliefs.
No. I would prefer them to move towards the Conservative parties of Thatcher, MacMillan (early), even Eden. I'm not a fan of million-a-year immigration and all-time-high taxes, nor of the Conservative policy (which they thought of before Starmer's mess-up) of releasing prisoners early and decriminalising shoplifting and burglary. Nor of their approach to defence that "the world is a lovely place and there is no need to have a credible army".
Not specific policies, it's the earlier attitudes towards individual freedoms and responsibilities that we have lost.If what you want are 1950's policies in 2024, then I think it may be worth you taking some time to read the Conservative and Reform manifestos from the last election rather than just look at the colour of the rosette and hope they'll turn the clock back
You talk about losing individual freedoms, yet Jenrick wants to abandon the ECHR. The mental gymnastics to want both the first and the second are off the scale. Either you're in favour of individual rights or you're not.
Like women’s freedom to be legal property of their husbands, and gay people’s rights to be imprisoned for what they do the privacy of their own bedroom?
To be fair Burnley’s stuck in the 1930s so he’s actually a moderniser.If what you want are 1950's policies in 2024, then I think it may be worth you taking some time to read the Conservative and Reform manifestos from the last election rather than just look at the colour of the rosette and hope they'll turn the clock back
I think women as chattels was a lot further back than that. But basically I was thinking of the relationship between the state and the family, because back then it was accepted that it was the parents'house job to raise and feed their children, not the state's. Of course, there was a lot less money around then, but I see no reason why the increased wealth of the nation should give the government any more reason to meddle.
You think? Women couldn’t get mortgages in the 60s, because ‘you’ll get married & have children’.
Tosh. Traditional Tories are the likes of Nicholas Soames, Norman Tebbit and even Thatcher. They wouldn’t give the time of day to the likes of Honest Bob and Crazy Kemi with their pro Trump, anti Europe, anti ECHR views. The Tories are heading down a blind alley of extremism which will keep them out of power until they realise that the majority of British voters are centrist - either a little right or a little left. The crazy thing is that Corbyns Labour Party is a perfect case study for them to learn from but they are too far down the Reform / UKIP / Whatever Farage the grifter calls himself these days rabbit hole. The Tories have given Labour a free pass again.
It feels to me like you don't want to live in the actual 1950s but some sort of imagined 1950s where all the bad things didn't happen.
False nostalgia. I grew up in the 50s, was a teenager in the 60s. There were loads of bad things happening, believe me.
1973 The Matrimonial Causes Act.
Ah, 1973. A fine Conservative government under Heath.
No chance. I never want to hear that kunnt's voice ever again.
