[Albion] Ferdi Kadioglu Singed 27/08/24

um bongo molongo · Aug 13, 2024

whatever the ins and outs, a win for Lille has to help. Allez Lille!

oldboyroy · Aug 13, 2024

Think we'll smash it this season, challenge for top 4 but end up around 6th! Might think differently if we lose at Everton though!

Hiheidi · Aug 13, 2024

This account (with over 1 million followers) saying he's been removed from the squad for Lille.

Ooh it’s a corner · Aug 13, 2024

el punal said:
Should they consult the Green Brigade first?

Han Solo said:
Football could turn into working like that if the investment and wages of the top 8 are on a different dimension to everyone elses. Over time, this would result in the top 8 being the top 8 the vast majority of seasons.

We saw increased "layering" last season and imho there's a chance the league will basically be divided into three internal divisions, with plenty of daylight between them.

The top 8
Us, Palace, Brentford, Wolves, Fulham etc
The bottom 5 (Leicester, Everton, Ipswich, Nottingham, and the last shite team I'm forgetting right now)

Saints?

macbeth · Aug 13, 2024

Hiheidi said:
This account (with over 1 million followers) saying he's been removed from the squad for Lille.

on the official account now. ‘hamstring injury’ is the line they’re going with…

Mr deez · Aug 13, 2024

Hiheidi said:
This account (with over 1 million followers) saying he's been removed from the squad for Lille.

Team news is out and that's correct

Hiheidi · Aug 13, 2024

Hamstring

BRIGHT ON Q · Aug 13, 2024

Napper said:
Cant see it. Supporters and owner realistic in that (depressingly) its highly unlikely we will finish above

City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Villa
Newcastle
Chelsea
United
Spurs

So thats a best of 9th and I expect West Ham , Palace + Fulham have some ideas on that place.

Possible of course that some of those teams have shockers and the fact all thos sides are so strong should mean everyone taking points off each other.

Our best chance of Europe is to win a trophy and even then you need to avoid City minimum to do it.

Owners and fans would take 10th and exciting football in a heart beat

How many teams Win trophies in England these days apart from the usual suspects?

Napper · Aug 13, 2024

BRIGHT ON Q said:
How many teams Win trophies in England these days apart from the usual suspects?

You tell me

BrickTamland · Aug 13, 2024

Hiheidi said:
This account (with over 1 million followers) saying he's been removed from the squad for Lille.

This is getting interesting. Get him and Gruda over the line and I reckon this could be our best ever transfer window (if the correct players are also moved on)

BRIGHT ON Q · Aug 13, 2024

Napper said:
You tell me

I don't think I have to do I...

WhingForPresident · Aug 13, 2024

macbeth said:
on the official account now. ‘hamstring injury’ is the line they’re going with…

Hugo Rune · Aug 13, 2024

Hiheidi said:
Hamstring

I remember Dale Stephens had a similar injury one summer! He was fine by September though.

macbeth · Aug 13, 2024

Hiheidi said:
Hamstring

hey, at least it’ll give naylor the chance to wax lyrical about how good the new medical team is when kadioglu has recovered in time for saturday

MJsGhost · Aug 13, 2024

Guinness Boy said:
At the moment they can't be. PSR is keeping things fairly level. Liverpool haven't bought, Newcastle had to sell Minteh to us, Man City are short odds for relegation because of their legal troubles.

PSR may not last. Some big names don't like it. Martin Samuels has basically taken the Saudi line lock, stock and barrel and wants Newcastle to be able to spend whatever they like 'because they can'. Todd will be making similar noises at Chelsea. Man City are taking the legal fight to the Premier League, on the front foot as ever.

Bloom, shrewd operator that he is, has seen this window as the one where we have cash from previous deals and headroom from previous deals and got in there with some decent players, while other big clubs can't spend without PSR issues.

Part of the reason for my reply to @Napper would be that he will want to see return on the investment. We may end up with sides freed of PSR spending untold billions in the future. Our additional revenue would have to come from Europe, as would our attractiveness to good young players.

EDIT - TL;DR? This is the window where we'll outspend a few big clubs and Bloom will want to see that come to something.

I agree with this, but it depends on what 'something' is.

I think he will be pragmatic.

If the splurge had been on a bunch of battle-hardened 25-30 yr olds in their prime, I think expectations of achieving something tangible (a cup final, maybe even a cup win; or qualification for Europe again) would be more immediate.

The new recruits are still young and relatively unproven, so I think getting back into the top 10 will be the 'something' he expects and anything else is gravy this year.

All being well this season, I reckon 25/26 will see an expectation of qualification for Europe. (unlikely to be publicised)

The above is all entirely opinion of course. For all I know, Tony's gunning for the Champions League qualification this year and a cup double (the window hasn't yet closed after all)

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Aug 13, 2024

Great. We're trying to buy another crock.

MJsGhost · Aug 13, 2024

BRIGHT ON Q said:
How many teams Win trophies in England these days apart from the usual suspects?

Since 2000 (I don't think any of these will be troubling the scorers again any time soon):

1. Leicester City

Trophies:
- Premier League: 2015-2016
- FA Cup: 2020-2021
- League Cup: 1999-2000

2. Wigan Athletic

Trophy:
- FA Cup: 2012-2013

3. Birmingham City

Trophy:
- League Cup: 2010-2011

4. Portsmouth

Trophies:
- FA Cup: 2007-2008

5. Swansea City

Trophy:
- League Cup: 2012-2013

6. Blackburn Rovers

Trophy:
- League Cup: 2001-2002

7. Middlesbrough

Trophy:
- League Cup: 2003-2004

This is according to chatGPT by the way, though it does appear correct at first glance.

It's quite depressing really.

In contrast, this is what the big 6 have won.

(Or should that be big 5 and Spurs? :lolol:

)

1. Manchester United

Premier League: 2000-2001, 2002-2003, 2006-2007, 2007-2008, 2008-2009, 2010-2011, 2012-2013
FA Cup: 2003-2004, 2015-2016
League Cup: 2005-2006, 2008-2009, 2009-2010, 2016-2017, 2022-2023
Community Shield: 2000, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016
UEFA Champions League: 2007-2008
UEFA Europa League: 2016-2017
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008

2. Manchester City

Premier League: 2011-2012, 2013-2014, 2017-2018, 2018-2019, 2020-2021, 2021-2022, 2022-2023
FA Cup: 2010-2011, 2018-2019, 2022-2023
League Cup: 2013-2014, 2015-2016, 2017-2018, 2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021
Community Shield: 2012, 2018, 2019
UEFA Champions League: 2022-2023
FIFA Club World Cup: 2023

3. Liverpool

Premier League: 2019-2020
FA Cup: 2000-2001, 2005-2006, 2021-2022
League Cup: 2000-2001, 2002-2003, 2011-2012, 2021-2022
Community Shield: 2001, 2006, 2022
UEFA Champions League: 2004-2005, 2018-2019
UEFA Europa League: 2000-2001
UEFA Super Cup: 2001, 2005, 2019
FIFA Club World Cup: 2019

4. Arsenal

Premier League: 2001-2002, 2003-2004
FA Cup: 2001-2002, 2002-2003, 2004-2005, 2013-2014, 2014-2015, 2016-2017, 2019-2020
League Cup: None
Community Shield: 2002, 2004, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2020

5. Chelsea

Premier League: 2004-2005, 2005-2006, 2009-2010, 2014-2015, 2016-2017
FA Cup: 1999-2000, 2006-2007, 2008-2009, 2009-2010, 2011-2012, 2017-2018
League Cup: 2004-2005, 2006-2007, 2014-2015
Community Shield: 2000, 2005, 2009
UEFA Champions League: 2011-2012, 2020-2021
UEFA Europa League: 2012-2013, 2018-2019
UEFA Super Cup: 2021
FIFA Club World Cup: 2021

6. Tottenham Hotspur

League Cup: 2007-2008

pornomagboy · Aug 13, 2024

BrickTamland said:
Not sure. Think he plays regardless as a lot seems to hinge on their CL progression.

deletebeepbeepbeep said:
Yes guaranteed to play tonight.

seems he has a made up injury

BRIGHT ON Q · Aug 13, 2024

MJsGhost said:
Since 2000 (I don't think any of these will be troubling the scorers again any time soon):

1. Leicester City

Trophies:

Premier League: 2015-2016

FA Cup: 2020-2021

League Cup: 1999-2000

2. Wigan Athletic

Trophy:

FA Cup: 2012-2013

3. Birmingham City

Trophy:

League Cup: 2010-2011

4. Portsmouth

Trophies:

FA Cup: 2007-2008

5. Swansea City

Trophy:

League Cup: 2012-2013

6. Blackburn Rovers

Trophy:

League Cup: 2001-2002

7. Middlesbrough

Trophy:

League Cup: 2003-2004

This is according to chatGPT by the way, though it does appear correct at first glance.

It's quite depressing really.

In contrast, this is what the big 6 have won.

(Or should that be big 5 and Spurs? )

1. Manchester United

Premier League: 2000-2001, 2002-2003, 2006-2007, 2007-2008, 2008-2009, 2010-2011, 2012-2013

FA Cup: 2003-2004, 2015-2016

League Cup: 2005-2006, 2008-2009, 2009-2010, 2016-2017, 2022-2023

Community Shield: 2000, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016

UEFA Champions League: 2007-2008

UEFA Europa League: 2016-2017

FIFA Club World Cup: 2008

2. Manchester City

Premier League: 2011-2012, 2013-2014, 2017-2018, 2018-2019, 2020-2021, 2021-2022, 2022-2023

FA Cup: 2010-2011, 2018-2019, 2022-2023

League Cup: 2013-2014, 2015-2016, 2017-2018, 2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021

Community Shield: 2012, 2018, 2019

UEFA Champions League: 2022-2023

FIFA Club World Cup: 2023

3. Liverpool

Premier League: 2019-2020

FA Cup: 2000-2001, 2005-2006, 2021-2022

League Cup: 2000-2001, 2002-2003, 2011-2012, 2021-2022

Community Shield: 2001, 2006, 2022

UEFA Champions League: 2004-2005, 2018-2019

UEFA Europa League: 2000-2001

UEFA Super Cup: 2001, 2005, 2019

FIFA Club World Cup: 2019

4. Arsenal

Premier League: 2001-2002, 2003-2004

FA Cup: 2001-2002, 2002-2003, 2004-2005, 2013-2014, 2014-2015, 2016-2017, 2019-2020

League Cup: None

Community Shield: 2002, 2004, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2020

5. Chelsea

Premier League: 2004-2005, 2005-2006, 2009-2010, 2014-2015, 2016-2017

FA Cup: 1999-2000, 2006-2007, 2008-2009, 2009-2010, 2011-2012, 2017-2018

League Cup: 2004-2005, 2006-2007, 2014-2015

Community Shield: 2000, 2005, 2009

UEFA Champions League: 2011-2012, 2020-2021

UEFA Europa League: 2012-2013, 2018-2019

UEFA Super Cup: 2021

FIFA Club World Cup: 2021

6. Tottenham Hotspur

League Cup: 2007-2008

Incredible research!! It does just show it is getting harder by the year, Leicester were a bit of a one off.

MJsGhost · Aug 13, 2024

BRIGHT ON Q said:
Incredible research!! It does just show it is getting harder by the year, Leicester were a bit of a one off.

The Spurs fact-finding didn't take long at all :lolol:

I'll credit the 'source' again - chatGPT, so it didn't take me more than a few seconds, I have to admit.

It does show what we're up against (and Spurs)

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[Albion] Ferdi Kadioglu Singed 27/08/24

1. Leicester City

2. Wigan Athletic

3. Birmingham City

4. Portsmouth

5. Swansea City

6. Blackburn Rovers

7. Middlesbrough

1. Manchester United

2. Manchester City

3. Liverpool

4. Arsenal

5. Chelsea

6. Tottenham Hotspur

1. Leicester City

2. Wigan Athletic

3. Birmingham City

4. Portsmouth

5. Swansea City

6. Blackburn Rovers

7. Middlesbrough

1. Manchester United

2. Manchester City

3. Liverpool

4. Arsenal

5. Chelsea

6. Tottenham Hotspur