aftershavedave
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when virtually every thread is spammed the same way maybe that modicum of self-moderation doesn't exist?
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[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places
- Thread starter Wrong-Direction
- Start date
One assumes the rioters didn't conduct a vote and choose this fella to represent them on the radio.
Any thicker and he'd set.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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i wasn't making any apology for hate speech, grossly misreading the simple premise to go after the speaker not the platform.I’m astonished that you are trying to present some kind of apologist argument for online hate speech.
And ‘Yes’, absolutely. I fully admit that I am heavily biased against racist and any form of extremist content being allowed to flood the internet when there are laws in multiple territories clearly delineating what the limitations are to free speech and laws and provisions on Human Rights violations that very clearly define what constitutes ‘hate speech’. I also fully admit I am biased against those who think ‘freedom of speech’ is a passport to say wtf you like regardless of the harm it causes to national security, groups or other individuals.
Not even the ‘father’ of civil rights legislation, Thomas Payne, agreed to the unconditional and unfettered rights to freedom of speech.
‘The Declaration of Rights itself stipulated that laws could limit free speech in order to combat ‘abuses of this freedom’.
Thomas Paine
warwick.ac.uk
If I am appearing to you biased against Musk, it is because it’s relevant to the thread (but my points apply to all social media platforms) - Musk has taken it upon himself in recent days to get involved in the riots by spreading personally dangerous opinions …
And fake news …
You tell me how this irresponsible bollix falls under the universally accepted guidelines of ‘free speech’?
Elon Musk shares fake news about England rioters being sent to Falklands
X owner deletes post sharing faked Telegraph article that claimed convicted rioters would be sent to detention campswww.theguardian.com
What is also relevant to the thread and the possibility of foreign agents being behind the far rights use of social media to incite violence and social unrest is where Musk got his funding from to purchase Titter which has implications for national security:
’Not only has Musk brought on a number of investors to help finance the deal, including entities with to China, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia but one of his other companies, Tesla, is increasingly dependent on the Chinese market and the goodwill of the Chinese government’
The national security grounds for investigating Musk’s Twitter acquisition
Patnaik, Litan, and Kunhardt make the case for a national security investigation of Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitterwww.brookings.edu
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Absolute top thread on X:
If you don't want to use X, here's a link to it in article form:
https://myblackface.wordpress.com/2024/08/08/riots-cartwheels-and-brains-interrupted/
If you don't want to use X, here's a link to it in article form:
https://myblackface.wordpress.com/2024/08/08/riots-cartwheels-and-brains-interrupted/
Not that simple with X. The speaker often owns the platform. We’ve seen Musk claim a rescuer of children in Thailand was a nonce, claim Britain was on the verge of civil war and disseminate conspiracy theories and trans hate.
aftershavedave
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It's about time that our government, and others, addressed this. His intervention this week was vile
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
It’s when he says I’m not racist that gets me, why don’t these plums ever have the balls to say what they are?Any thicker and he'd set.
In no small part due to the bile spouted in the tabloids for years which was then amplified with added hate on social media.
An echo-chamber would be a fine thing. My issue with Twitter in the age of Musk is that my FYP is full of racism and misogyny. Can't I just have a bit of football, philosophy and progressive politics?
Sorry - just catching up so apologies if fixtures.
Would you be surprised (no you wouldn't) to learn that the answer to your bolded question is.....of course!
But it's not just Tories who have had their snouts in the Serco trough according to this article from the Morning Star
A brief history of Serco and its revolving door with ministers
morningstaronline.co.uk
Here's the former top boss at Serco being appointed as a Minister in May's government.
Tory MP who was a boss at outsourcing firm Serco becomes new Justice Minister
Tory MP Edward Argar is the latest member of Theresa May's top team after he joined the Ministry of Justice
www.mirror.co.uk
- Apr 5, 2014
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One assumes the rioters didn't conduct a vote and choose this fella to represent them on the radio.
I would put a laughing emoji, but I can't on this one. That bloke is actually quite disturbed.
That Ricky Jones chap isn't helping Labour, I can't believe what he said about slitting people's throats, surely he will get charged with such a statement. My sincere apologies if there is a thread on it, but I could not find it.
Does anyone know the legality on this?
We can't have these people in our labour party or on our streets.
Does anyone know the legality on this?
We can't have these people in our labour party or on our streets.
It's on this thread and the Labour melt down one. Bloke's been slung immediately out of Labour and also arrested.
He was quickly suspended from the Labour Party and has been arrested. The Labour party will not have him back after this.
Did someone say dull?If there's one thing DULLER than one or two posters completely dominating a thread with a lot of posts (often repeating the same points many times), then its someone posting a load of really boring posts about post counts.
de la zouch
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- Jul 12, 2007
- 572
So to provide some balance- what about the infamous twitter files, as you refuse to recognise “right wing publications” I’ve given you something from the Grauniad:
The Twitter Files should disturb liberal critics of Elon Musk – and here’s why | X | The Guardian
Leaked messages show an unhealthy link between social media and state security
amp.theguardian.com
That's good news, hopefully they we charge him heavily too, as he seemed to be encouraging all the people around him and worse still they applauded him. Keir needs to make and example of him and keep on top of all these hate demonstrations.
What a horrible country we are now living in.
Imho 85% of us are decent people, possibly more. Still love the UK.
FFS he has already been thrown out of the party so SKS has made an example of him. Did you not read my reply?
I beg your pardon, I feel you may have misinterpreted what I was saying, I was suggesting perhaps Keir can ensure he is sentenced.FFS he has already been thrown out of the party so SKS has made an example of him. Did you not read my reply?
Do you feel he should be sentenced?