Veggies - get a GRIP!!!

[Gritt23]

For goodness sake, it's a piggin' chemical that is found in the stomach. It's not as if chomping a Mars bar is like sinking your teeth into a piece of a dead animal.

*rolleyes*


Mars starts using animal products

Some of the UK's best-selling chocolate bars, such as Mars and Twix, will no longer be suitable for vegetarians.

Also affecting brands such as Snickers and Maltesers, owner Masterfoods said it had started to use animal product rennet to make its chocolate products.

Masterfoods said the change was due to it switching the sourcing of its ingredients and the admission was a "principled decision" on its part.

The Vegetarian Society said the company's move was "incomprehensible".

Masterfoods said it had started using rennet from 1 May and non-affected products had a "best before date" up to 1 October.

"Masterfoods' decision to use non-vegetarian whey is a backward step "
Vegetarian Society

Rennet, a chemical sourced from calves' stomachs, is used in the production of whey.

It will now also be found in Bounty, Minstrels and Milky Way products, and the ice cream versions of all Masterfoods' bars.

"If the customer is an extremely strict vegetarian, then we are sorry the products are no longer suitable, but a less strict vegetarian should enjoy our chocolate," said Paul Goalby, corporate affairs manager for Masterfoods.

The Vegetarian Society said it was "extremely disappointed".

"At a time when more and more consumers are concerned about the provenance of their food, Masterfoods' decision to use non-vegetarian whey is a backward step," it said in a statement.

"Mars products are very popular with young people and many will be shocked to discover that their manufacture now relies on the extraction of rennet from the stomach lining of young calves," it added.

 

[REDLAND]

Rennet comes from the fourth stomach of slaughtered, newborn calves, you have to be a pretty liberal Vegetarian to eat it ..

 

[coventrygull]

What would Mick Jagger say

 

[Meade's Ball]

An unstrict vegetarian should also enjoy splashing in baths of rolling human eyes, regularly eating 3 kilo bloody steaks in French restaurants, giggling at the sight of cows with slit throats dangling upside down in abatoirs on food industry programme, and throwing kittens in rivers hoping they'll catch a few sprats one loves the taste of before drowning and developing the purrfect haggis.

It's difficult to say what a strict one would be. Obviously one that eats meat of any kind can't use the vegetarian title. But a set of beliefs are in general a personal choice, so to decide to feel disgruntled by giant corporations using animal organ products, no matter how well cut or small, is wholly fair, isn't it? Not a must, but fair.

 

[Robot Chicken]

Bastard Mars

 

[H block]

So what do all the real ale drinking veggies reckon to this ?

( do veggies eat fish ? )


Isinglass is a substance obtained from the swimbladders of fish (especially Beluga sturgeon), used mainly for the clarification of wine and beer. It is a form of collagen. Prior to inexpensive gelatin production and other competitive products, isinglass was used in confectionery and desserts such as Fruit Jelly and blancmange. Isinglass was originally made exclusively from sturgeon until the 1795 invention of a cheap substitute using cod by William Murdoch. This was extensively used in Britain in place of Russian isinglass. The bladders, once removed from the fish and processed, are formed into various shapes for use.

Isinglass finings are used extensively as a processing aid in the British brewing industry to accelerate the fining, or clarification, of beer. They are used particularly in the production of cask-conditioned beers, known as real ale, although there are a few cask ales available which are not fined using isinglass. The finings, a pure form of gelatin, flocculate the live yeast in the beer into a spongy mass, which settles to the bottom of the cask. Left to itself, beer will clear naturally; however, the use of isinglass finings accelerates the process. Isinglass is sometimes used with an auxiliary fining, which further accelerates the process of sedimentation.


Bastard beer drinking vegetarian fish murdering swine.

 

[REDLAND]

So what do all the real ale drinking veggies reckon to this ?

( do veggies eat fish ? )


Isinglass is a substance obtained from the swimbladders of fish (especially Beluga sturgeon), used mainly for the clarification of wine and beer. It is a form of collagen. Prior to inexpensive gelatin production and other competitive products, isinglass was used in confectionery and desserts such as Fruit Jelly and blancmange. Isinglass was originally made exclusively from sturgeon until the 1795 invention of a cheap substitute using cod by William Murdoch. This was extensively used in Britain in place of Russian isinglass. The bladders, once removed from the fish and processed, are formed into various shapes for use.

Isinglass finings are used extensively as a processing aid in the British brewing industry to accelerate the fining, or clarification, of beer. They are used particularly in the production of cask-conditioned beers, known as real ale, although there are a few cask ales available which are not fined using isinglass. The finings, a pure form of gelatin, flocculate the live yeast in the beer into a spongy mass, which settles to the bottom of the cask. Left to itself, beer will clear naturally; however, the use of isinglass finings accelerates the process. Isinglass is sometimes used with an auxiliary fining, which further accelerates the process of sedimentation.


Bastard beer drinking vegetarian fish murdering swine.

http://www.gonchong.co.uk/vegbeer.html

All my favourites are in the list

 

[London Calling]

Long live veggies, a stupid decision, will cost them millions, because its not just veggies, who will not eat their product, but Hindu's, buddists etc.
LC

 

[The Clown of Pevensey Bay]

Small breweries make lots of it, of course, but I think Grolsch is the only mass-market beer that's endorsed by the Vegetarian Society.

There's countless stuff that's not officially vegetarian. Interestingly, Quorn is not (because it uses egg product from battery hens).

I'm a crap vegetarian. I wear leather shoes and EVERYTHING.

 

[REDLAND]

Small breweries make lots of it, of course, but I think Grolsch is the only mass-market beer that's endorsed by the Vegetarian Society.

No mate theres BLUMMING loads

VEGETARIAN SOCIETY AWARDS 2006

NOMINATIONS

Best vegetarian pint

We have received the following nominations for this category so far. All nominations will be vetted to ensure they meet the Standards of The Vegetarian Society before being presented to the judging panel but the list below simply represents public nominations that have not yet been checked.


Atlantic Brewery - Atlantic Gold Organic Summer Ale
Badgers - Golden Glory (bottled)
Batemans
- Victory Ale
- XXXB
Becks
Black Isle Brewery:
- Blonde Bottled Beer
- Organic Porter
Black Sheep Brewery
- Black Sheep Ale
- Rigwelter
Brakspear - Bottle Conditioned Organic Beer
Budweiser
- Budvar
-Lager
Caledonian Brewery:
- Deuchars IPA
- Golden Promise
- Organic Premium Ale
Carlsberg
Coors:
- Grolsch
- Grolsch Blonde
- Light
Cropton Brewery - Scoresby Stout
Duchy Originals - Organic Ale
Duvel
Harvey's of Lewes - Best Bitter
Heineken
Hepworth Brewery - Vintage Roots Organic Beer
Interbrew - Hoegaarden
Liefmanns - Kriek
Marble Brewery:
- Ginger Marble
- Lagonda IPA
- Manchester Bitter
Sainsbury's - Spanish Cerveza
Samuel Smith's:
- Alpine Lager
- Best Ale
- Imperial Stout
- Organic Bitter
- Organic Lager
Shepherd Neame - Spitfire
Tiger Beer
Weston's
- Scrumpy Cider;
-Organic Cider
Wychwood Brewery - Circle Master
Zero Degrees Micro Brewery - Black Lager

 

[H block]

To be fair I can understand why people would not want to eat meat.


But is there a better smell than that of bacon being grilled.

Keeps me omnivorous.

 

[Bozza]

There's countless stuff that's not officially vegetarian. Interestingly, Quorn is not (because it uses egg product from battery hens).

Eh?

 

[H block]

No mate theres BLUMMING loads

VEGETARIAN SOCIETY AWARDS 2006

NOMINATIONS

Best vegetarian pint

We have received the following nominations for this category so far. All nominations will be vetted to ensure they meet the Standards of The Vegetarian Society before being presented to the judging panel but the list below simply represents public nominations that have not yet been checked.


Atlantic Brewery - Atlantic Gold Organic Summer Ale
Badgers - Golden Glory (bottled)
Batemans
- Victory Ale
- XXXB
Becks
Black Isle Brewery:
- Blonde Bottled Beer
- Organic Porter
Black Sheep Brewery
- Black Sheep Ale
- Rigwelter
Brakspear - Bottle Conditioned Organic Beer
Budweiser
- Budvar
-Lager
Caledonian Brewery:
- Deuchars IPA
- Golden Promise
- Organic Premium Ale
Carlsberg
Coors:
- Grolsch
- Grolsch Blonde
- Light
Cropton Brewery - Scoresby Stout
Duchy Originals - Organic Ale
Duvel
Harvey's of Lewes - Best Bitter
Heineken
Hepworth Brewery - Vintage Roots Organic Beer
Interbrew - Hoegaarden
Liefmanns - Kriek
Marble Brewery:
- Ginger Marble
- Lagonda IPA
- Manchester Bitter
Sainsbury's - Spanish Cerveza
Samuel Smith's:
- Alpine Lager
- Best Ale
- Imperial Stout
- Organic Bitter
- Organic Lager
Shepherd Neame - Spitfire
Tiger Beer
Weston's
- Scrumpy Cider;
-Organic Cider
Wychwood Brewery - Circle Master
Zero Degrees Micro Brewery - Black Lager

What about all those poor little Hops getting crushed and being transported around in smelly lorries.

 

[Gritt23]

Rennet comes from the fourth stomach of slaughtered, newborn calves, you have to be a pretty liberal Vegetarian to eat it ..

Depends on why you have become a veggie I s'pose.

If you are on a moral crusade, then you are probably right, but if your stomach turns at the thought of eating a dead animal, then this sounds miles away from that.

 

[Cian]

Vegeterians scare me but not as much as vegans.

Plastic shoes are cruelty to anyone who has to work in close proximity to you in warm weather.

 

[readingstockport]

http://www.veganstore.co.uk/

http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/

Plastic shoes are SOOOOO passe my dear, vegetan is quite simply all the rage right now

Oh, you'll notice that both of those sites premises are in fact in ....


Brighton

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Depends on why you have become a veggie I s'pose.

If you are on a moral crusade, then you are probably right, but if your stomach turns at the thought of eating a dead animal, then this sounds miles away from that.

People have some very strange ideas about what constitutes vegetarianism.

For either of the reasons you describe, rennet would be out of the question. If you didn't eat meat because you were health concious then you might not be bothered.

As for Quorn - it is of course 100% vegetarian. Vegetarians have no issue with eating eggs, as they do not involve killing the animal.

The only sensitive issue surrounding Quorn is the use of non free-range eggs. For this reason it doesn't carry the vegetarian society seal of approval. This doesn't mean its not vegetarian.

 

[Silent Bob]

Depends on why you have become a veggie I s'pose.

If you are on a moral crusade, then you are probably right, but if your stomach turns at the thought of eating a dead animal, then this sounds miles away from that.

eh, why?

What exactly is the difference, either way you're eating something that came from a slaughtered animal. If anything eating meat from it is a more appealing prospect than eating chemicals from it's stomach.

 

[The Clown of Pevensey Bay]

Eh?

Turns out I've been wrong about Quorn since January 2005. It's been approved by the Vegetarian Society from that month hence

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/soya.html

 

[Bozza]

Turns out I've been wrong about Quorn since January 2005. It's been approved by the Vegetarian Society from that month hence

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/soya.html

I wasn't querying the approval, rather that you said it wasn't strictly veggie. Which it always has been.