[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Peteinblack]

They are not called 'The stupid party' for nothing!

One of my favourite political quotes:
"“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are Conservatives..." (John Stuart Mill, mid-19th Century Liberal philosopher and MP)

 

[A1X]

Genius.

Euthanising the demographic that historically votes Tory isn't something you'd expect to hear from...ummm...Tories.

I wonder if they'll be so keen on euthanasia when it gets to their turn?

 

[The Clamp]

Asylum seekers to lose basic housing protections in move to cut hotel use

Exclusive: ministers plan to exempt asylum seekers’ landlords from rules including minimum room sizes

www.theguardian.com

I seriously think if they could get away with it, they’d drown asylum seekers and refugees to get the numbers down. Oh hang on, didn’t they try that?

 

[Stat Brother]

One in five will still vote Tory, in 18 months time.

 

[clapham_gull]

One in five will still vote Tory, in 18 months time.

But most them will be completely oblivious to what is going on in the party.

You can't blame many for not voting Labour, they don't like change and see the party obsessed with urban / modern issues that don't affect them.

Their life isn't really any different under any party.

However they aren't the electorate that count in terms of the numbers that put a new administration in power.

Unless Sunak manages to stop the factionalism and throw the loonies out, they are out for a decade after the next election.

Eventually Labour will run out of ideas and a nice centrist man in a sharp suit will lead them back to power.

 

[chickens]

But most them will be completely oblivious to what is going on in the party.

You can't blame many for not voting Labour, they don't like change and see the party obsessed with urban / modern issues that don't affect them.

Their life isn't really any different under any party.

However they aren't the electorate that count in terms of the numbers that put a new administration in power.

Unless Sunak manages to stop the factionalism and throw the loonies out, they are out for a decade after the next election.

Eventually Labour will run out of ideas and a nice centrist man in a sharp suit will lead them back to power.

The Conservative Party are excellent at reinventing themselves, it’s true.

However, they’ve disproportionately made life worse for younger and working age people for over a decade.

In the same way that it became clear that the Labour Party were leading Britain down a cul-de-sac in the mid/late 70s, rendering them unelectable for all of the eighties, I think we’ve proven that divisive rhetoric and tax cutting to the point that public services fall over is also a cul-de-sac.

I think most decent Conservatives have a well developed sense of social responsibility, but the parliamentary Conservative Party has gone in the opposite direction, and channelled their inner Farage.

I do wonder if the brand damage is so severe this time that those Conservatives willing to follow their moral compass will move toward the Liberal Democrats, who are the closest Britain now has to a morally acceptable centre-right political party.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

National Conservatives, not fascists

? Are you sure Ms Phillips

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Genius.

Euthanising the demographic that historically votes Tory isn't something you'd expect to hear from...ummm...Tories.

They succeeded when releasing covid infected patients into care homes. I warned about this right at the beginning of the pandemic, on the covid thread. It took them over two years to admit, that it had happened. One care home in Hove, had 15 out of its 20 residents die within a few months.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

No surrender to the blob. The electorate are the blob!

An article in the Times which explains the Blob. A good read.

Blaming the Blob is a flight from reality

A friend of mine was working as an employment lawyer a few years back when he was approached by a very plausible man who wanted his help in taking action agains

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[TomandJerry]

Albanian authorities have confirmed that most of its citizens forcibly sent back home from the UK this year were convicted of crimes there. The BBC has spoken to those men sent home, and learnt that some prisoners were offered £1,500 to leave - and some plan to come back.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Albanian authorities have confirmed that most of its citizens forcibly sent back home from the UK this year were convicted of crimes there. The BBC has spoken to those men sent home, and learnt that some prisoners were offered £1,500 to leave - and some plan to come back.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Much easier to read with the bold type.

 

[jcdenton08]

Shouldn’t have to pay bribes to deport criminals from other countries, surely?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

We've always been able to deport criminals. The reality is over 80% of asylum seekers are granted asylum here.

Funnily enough, when we were in Europol, it was easier for Spain to send back our criminals.

 

[lawros left foot]

Is it really an intelligent thing to do, if your party has been accused of lurching to the far right, to call a quite high profile grouping of like minded Ministers, MPs and various other politicos, the National Conservatives, or Nat-Cs for short?

 

[Bodian]

Rishi Sunak cites cheap beer and sanitary products as benefits of Brexit

On his way to the G7 summit, the prime minster insists household income is ‘outperforming’ expectations

www.theguardian.com

Interesting

Pint price up 8p in 3 months

The average cost of a pint of draught lager increased by 1.9% in the three months to January 2023, the latest data from the Office For National Statistics (ONS) has revealed.

www.morningadvertiser.co.uk

 

[Bold Seagull]

Is it really an intelligent thing to do, if your party has been accused of lurching to the far right, to call a quite high profile grouping of like minded Ministers, MPs and various other politicos, the National Conservatives, or Nat-Cs for short?

Conservatives Using National Theory Stratagem.

I haven't thought of an acronym for them yet.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Conservatives Using National Theory Stratagem.

I haven't thought of an acronym for them yet.

What's an acronym?

 

[clapham_gull]

Albanian authorities have confirmed that most of its citizens forcibly sent back home from the UK this year were convicted of crimes there. The BBC has spoken to those men sent home, and learnt that some prisoners were offered £1,500 to leave - and some plan to come back.

Have you EVER posted anything on here other than a cut and paste from a news website ?

 

[Randy McNob]

The simple fact of the matter is that to replace the workers we need via immigration with natives would require far higher tax, as significant incentives would need to be offered to make having kids an attractive proposition. (At present it’s a struggle from a financial and time-juggling perspective)

Not only that, a higher population requires schools, doctors, and housing, not to mention supporting infrastructure.

Then, we wait eighteen years until the first ‘batch’ become work ready. Unless of course Suella is also in favour of child labour. My chimney does need a sweep…

But all of this won't matter anyway in 18 months time It's a bit ridiculous a current government, well past their sell by date, waiting to be swept out of office talking about how we shape future generations when they and all their ideas will be binned and forgotten after the next election. Political parties only ever think 4 years ahead i.e. getting re-elected, pretty pointless a government trying to run the country based on long term ideology when most of them would struggle to hold their seats