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nicko31

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Those who support these scum, who used to post on NSC, appear to have run away. Sitting on their hands and hoping for a bright blue tomorrow.

Or posting dog whistle racism in the pit. @carlzeiss. Shame on you. Shame on the lot of them. Weirdos. Ta ra.
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Trouble is Harry, those of us who are not scum, but do not inherently share the generally accepted political beliefs of the great and good of NSC, have been vilified along with those the great and good call scum, making it pretty pointless in posting on political threads.
Quite frankly, whilst accepting that the present Government is abysmal, but at the same time, not fully embracing the Labour Party , I just can’t be arsed to post on a thread that gets more hysterical by the minute.
 






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BLOCK F said:
Trouble is Harry, those of us who are not scum, but do not inherently share the generally accepted political beliefs of the great and good of NSC, have been vilified along with those the great and good call scum, making it pretty pointless in posting on political threads.
Quite frankly, whilst accepting that the present Government is abysmal, but at the same time, not fully embracing the Labour Party , I just can’t be arsed to post on a thread that gets more hysterical by the minute.
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If you read what I wrote (and I paste it below) then unless you are a member of the Johnson/Truss/Sunak government then I did not call you scum. And unless you are a member of team Carlzeiss/wokeworrier/Das Reich, 'whatabout Jeremy Corbyn' gang then you have nothing to get irritable about.

There have always been decent tories, but they seem to be few and far between in this cohort of Tory MPs (the target of my vituperation). There was a great moment when a sufficient number of them stood up against Johnson and pushed him out. But they had better give their heads a proper wobble because if the current investigation exonerates Johnson (on the grounds that he is too stupid to understand his own rules) and he is not barred from political office, he will be back after the next election, ready to save the day.

It is time for decent tories to stand up and be counted. Not simply register the current government as abysmal, note that it is they who will be standing again in a couple of years, look briefly at Labour and remain 'unconvinced about Starmer' and....slink away. Engage!

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
If you read what I wrote (and I paste it below) then unless you are a member of the Johnson/Truss/Sunak government then I did not call you scum. And unless you are a member of team Carlzeiss/wokeworrier/Das Reich, 'whatabout Jeremy Corbyn' gang then you have nothing to get irritable about.

There have always been decent tories, but they seem to be few and far between in this cohort of Tory MPs (the target of my vituperation). There was a great moment when a sufficient number of them stood up against Johnson and pushed him out. But they had better give their heads a proper wobble because if the current investigation exonerates Johnson (on the grounds that he is too stupid to understand his own rules) and he is not barred from political office, he will be back after the next election, ready to save the day.

It is time for decent tories to stand up and be counted. Not simply register the current government as abysmal, note that it is they who will be standing again in a couple of years, look briefly at Labour and remain 'unconvinced about Starmer' and....slink away. Engage!

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Harry, I wasn’t suggesting that you were calling me scum. I believe we have exchanged sufficient posts with good humour and tolerance over time realise that neither of us consider the other to be ‘scum’. Nevertheless, the main thrust of my post still stands and that is that on this thread, anyone who is seen to be a Tory has, more often than not, been the subject of scorn. I am not irritable, but I truly cannot be arsed to post in this echo chamber of a thread.
By the way, I think quite number of present Tory MPs will not stand again at the election and others will lose their seats. Hopefully, a new crop will emerge and the party can go off into Opposition and re emerge when they are, once more, fit to govern.
Unlike your goodself, I am not really a political animal and have never contemplated joining a political party, so I will continue to register the current Government as abysmal and try and glean from Starmer et al what they believe in and what a Labour Government may look like.
In the meantime, I am going to ‘slink off’ towards my drinks cabinet and ‘engage’ in a wee dram!😁😉👍
PS. For what it is worth, I do believe that Johnson is dead duck. I am sure most of us can agree that is a good thing.
 
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BLOCK F said:
Harry, I wasn’t suggesting that you were calling me scum. I believe we have exchanged sufficient posts with good humour and tolerance over time realise that neither of us consider the other to be ‘scum’. Nevertheless, the main thrust of my post still stands and that is that on this thread, anyone who is seen to be a Tory has, more often than not, been the subject of scorn. I am not irritable, but I truly cannot be arsed to post in this echo chamber of a thread.
By the way, I think quite number of present Tory MPs will not stand again at the election and others will lose their seats. Hopefully, a new crop will emerge and the party can go off into Opposition and re emerge when they are, once more, fit to govern.
Unlike your goodself, I am not really a political animal and have never contemplated joining a political party, so I will continue to register the current Government as abysmal and try and glean from Starmer et al what they believe in and what a Labour Government may look like.
In the meantime, I am going to ‘slink off’ towards my drinks cabinet and ‘engage’ in a wee dram!😁😉👍
PS. For what it is worth, I do believe that Johnson is dead duck. I am sure most of us can agree that is a good thing.
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Indeed. And apologies for any aspersions.

Yes, I am a political handwringer :lolol: ....

But I fear we have yet to see the back of Johnson yet...

All the best :thumbsup:
 




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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Indeed. And apologies for any aspersions.

Yes, I am a political handwringer :lolol: ....

But I fear we have yet to see the back of Johnson yet...

All the best :thumbsup:
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No need to apologise at all, Harry.
I do hope you are wrong about Johnson. He may linger like a turd infested cockroach after the apocalypse, but I do think he is a spent force as far as public office is concerned and hopefully his influence in public life will continue to diminish and disappear up his fundamental orifice, where most of his best ideas come from.
Best wishes.😉😊
 


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you were judging the moderator, so i wrongly assumed that you thought you could do better, my mistake, soz.

it's humour, have you lived in england long?

"plough them all into a f***ing ditch", clampy informs me that the english have been saying this for centuries, but today, you are too snowflaky to see the humour. i thought you right wing johnies were champions of free speech? i got that wrong as well.

(i don't think anyone has actually been ploughed into any ditch, (and if they were, they almost certainly deserved it))
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Wow, that explanation is one that Boris would have been proud of.
 


nicko31

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Kathryn Stone on facing apparent intimidation as former parliamentary commissioner for standards.​


Fascinating interview, a strong character that didn't take any shit from entitled twats who think corruption can be brushed away with a glass of wine

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Kathryn Stone on facing apparent intimidation as former parliamentary commissioner for standards

For almost half a decade, Kathryn Stone passed judgement on the behaviour of MPs in her role as the independent Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards.
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The latest floating turd in an endless river
of corruption and sleaze.

“Sunak did not mention his wife’s interest when speaking about the childcare changes at his appearance before the liaison committee on Tuesday.

He was asked by the Labour MP Catherine McKinnell whether he had anything to declare. “No, all my disclosures are declared in the normal way,” he replied”.


www.theguardian.com

Firm at centre of Sunak conflict of interest row attended Downing Street event

Exclusive: Bosses of childcare firm part owned by PM’s wife were at No 11 reception hours after he was quizzed by MPs about links
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Queue up nicely and vote the lot of ‘em into obscurity.
 


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The Clamp said:
The latest floating turd in an endless river
of corruption and sleaze.

“Sunak did not mention his wife’s interest when speaking about the childcare changes at his appearance before the liaison committee on Tuesday.

He was asked by the Labour MP Catherine McKinnell whether he had anything to declare. “No, all my disclosures are declared in the normal way,” he replied”.


www.theguardian.com

Firm at centre of Sunak conflict of interest row attended Downing Street event

Exclusive: Bosses of childcare firm part owned by PM’s wife were at No 11 reception hours after he was quizzed by MPs about links
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com



Queue up nicely and vote the lot of ‘em into obscurity.
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TBH, I was much happier when we were ploughing them all into a ditch. I demand that option be put on the ballot paper.
 












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