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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The meltdown continues

The former culture secretary Nadine Dorries has announced she is standing down as an MP at the next general election.

Boris Johnson loyalist announces on TalkTV that ‘sheer stupidity’ of his removal as PM led to her decision
Didn’t Johnson promise her a peerage for the House of Lords?
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,394
Burgess Hill
As an aside, I see Ipsa have awarded MPs a 2.9% pay rise on the basis that this is the average public sector pay rise. What they don't say that even despite this, MPs salary is, in real terms, greater than it was in 2010 whereas the other 'public sector' workers are well behind.
 












TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,323
Labour has retained the West Lancashire constituency in a byelection called after its MP, Rosie Cooper, resigned last autumn.

Ashley Dalton won with 14,068 votes. The Conservative candidate Mike Prendergast followed in second with 5,742. There was a 10% swing to Labour and nearly 11% away from the Tories. Turnout was 31.36%.
 








Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,671
I doubt much of that 24% actually follow what is going on.

They probably still think "Boris" is still in charge and will vote for him "because he has funny hair".
Either that, or they think on a local level and are happy with their Tory MP?
 


chickens

Have you considered masterly inactivity?
NSC Patron
Oct 12, 2022
2,508
Either that, or they think on a local level and are happy with their Tory MP?

I think that’s the case for some, and I think some quite decent Conservative MPs (at a local level) are going to lose their seats because they’ve enabled the Conservative Party at a national level.

However, it is up to each political party to be self-policing, and when the battle for the Conservative Party’s soul was taking place post-Cameron, too many of them held their noses and enabled what has followed. I have some sympathy where their actions were motivated by genuine feelings of loyalty, but it’s limited because of what they’ve allowed to be visited on all of us.

The “we won’t be bound by international law” posturing, this disgracing of our country in the eyes of the international community, coupled with the incompetence with which Brexit was handled, has ruined businesses and people and made us look extremely foolish. There’s a lot to answer for.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
27,368
Either that, or they think on a local level and are happy with their Tory MP?
Could well be. And they've obviously balanced that against the economy crashing, businesses failing, spiralling inflation, the rising cost of living, the NHS being taken apart, international relations with our closest neighbours at the lowest level ever, breaking International law, corruption, dishonestly and incompetence running riot at the highest levels of Government and decided that having an MP who is good on a local level is more important.

Even though, whilst being a good MP, they have enabled and supported all of the above. 1 in 4 of the electorate :shrug:
 
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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,671
Could well be. And they've obviously balanced that against the economy crashing, businesses failing, spiralling inflation, the rising cost of living, the NHS being taken apart, international relations with our closest neighbours at the lowest level ever, breaking International law, corruption, dishonestly and incompetence running riot at the highest levels of Government and decided that having an MP who is good on a local level is more important.

Even though, whilst being a good MP, they have enabled and supported all of the above. 1 in 4 of the electorate :shrug:
In all seriousness, some probably HAVE weighed everything up and thought that. Meanwhile, others would be in the 'Yes, but Labour would be worse' camp – we heard all that post-covid when everyone was banging on about how they wouldn't have done much differently, etc – it's all so tedious.

But it's more likely that many people don't really give a crap about all of the macro disasters going on and are very much 'I'm all right, Jack'. Bonkers, really, but there we are!
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
12,872
In all seriousness, some probably HAVE weighed everything up and thought that. Meanwhile, others would be in the 'Yes, but Labour would be worse' camp – we heard all that post-covid when everyone was banging on about how they wouldn't have done much differently, etc – it's all so tedious.

But it's more likely that many people don't really give a crap about all of the macro disasters going on and are very much 'I'm all right, Jack'. Bonkers, really, but there we are!
And there will be others who don't think about any of it at all.

People who see the Conservative logo or the Labour logo and pop their X in, not giving a shit about who the rep is locally or what their party is doing nationally because that's how they've done it their entire lives.
 






Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
I think that’s the case for some, and I think some quite decent Conservative MPs (at a local level) are going to lose their seats because they’ve enabled the Conservative Party at a national level.

However, it is up to each political party to be self-policing, and when the battle for the Conservative Party’s soul was taking place post-Cameron, too many of them held their noses and enabled what has followed. I have some sympathy where their actions were motivated by genuine feelings of loyalty, but it’s limited because of what they’ve allowed to be visited on all of us.

The “we won’t be bound by international law” posturing, this disgracing of our country in the eyes of the international community, coupled with the incompetence with which Brexit was handled, has ruined businesses and people and made us look extremely foolish. There’s a lot to answer for.
All but one Sussex Tory voted to fill our sea with sewage.
Ill Eden a guess over the last parliament, and all the different PM's, almost every single 'decent conservative MP' has shat on a local issue 'for or the greater good'.

The fact these jellyfish will get votes and keep.their seats will bring shame upon us all!
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,671
"...we haven't got any houses. Unless you're foreign and you come over here and get a nice house or a hotel."

ok flat cap mate.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
All but one Sussex Tory voted to fill our sea with sewage.
Ill Eden a guess over the last parliament, and all the different PM's, almost every single 'decent conservative MP' has shat on a local issue 'for or the greater good'.

The fact these jellyfish will get votes and keep.their seats will bring shame upon us all!
I doubt Lewes will return a Tory next time, and Hastings Cons have deselected their MP, so it might go back to Lib Dem.
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
"...we haven't got any houses. Unless you're foreign and you come over here and get a nice house or a hotel."

ok flat cap mate.
He wasn’t even the worse one in that clip.

I did feel for the lady in the blue coat. She didn’t say how she voted.
 


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