[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[essbee1]

Bizarrely for me, it's got to the stage where if Boris went, I'd be furious.
There are so many F*** ups and total messes, I want him to endure huge, huge emotional pain and humiliation
before he's gone. But I also think he's a f*cking coward (most people like him are) and when it gets too tough, he'll
take the chicken's way out.

 

[Bry Nylon]

I'm calling 'Time' on this thread being used to conduct personal vendettas, please. It discourages others from participating in the thread.

Thanks.

 

[dazzer6666]

Bizarrely for me, it's got to the stage where if Boris went, I'd be furious.
There are so many F*** ups and total messes, I want him to endure huge, huge emotional pain and humiliation
before he's gone. But I also think he's a f*cking coward (most people like him are) and when it gets too tough, he'll
take the chicken's way out.

Not sure he’s capable of suffering humiliation…..he simply doesn’t care what people think.

 

[Lever]

I'm calling 'Time' on this thread being used to conduct personal vendettas, please. It discourages others from participating in the thread.

Thanks.

Happy to comply. Thank you.

 

[essbee1]

Not sure he’s capable of suffering humiliation…..he simply doesn’t care what people think.

Good point Dazzer. I just think that if enough people turn on him, it might, just might, get through
to the ****.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I'm calling 'Time' on this thread being used to conduct personal vendettas, please. It discourages others from participating in the thread.

Thanks.

Fine with me.

Thank you.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Nah now he's criticised the Government he'll be dismissed as a "lefty" now. Just another lefty troublemaker. Along with the legal profession, the royal family, the Church of England...

Talkin of which the Bar Council has given a warning about attacking members of the legal profession.

 

[Acker79]

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[usernamed]

Johnson has to go.

He does, but he’s the tip of something nasty, we need to be identifying who’s bankrolling and enabling Johnson. He’s the figurehead for something awful, but he was just “the ‘best’ man for the job” who was willing to do it. Kwarteng, Sunak, Patel, Gove, JRM and others are all part of the cabal. It’s no good replacing Johnson with something with the same hideous mindset.

As citizens of Britain, we can only watch from the sidelines while the Conservative Party destroys our country.

Until the party cleans itself up, we’re ****ed, because they have a Teflon core vote who will hold their noses and vote for them anyway. Sadly, despite everything, I still fear that the core Tory vote, coupled with fantasy reporting from a heavily skewed and really poor quality media will see the Conservatives over the line.

 

[GT49er]

I'm calling 'Time' on this thread being used to conduct personal vendettas, please. It discourages others from participating in the thread.

Thanks.

I'd better just pop in here to say that's fine by me, while I've still got time then!

 

[Lever]

He does, but he’s the tip of something nasty, we need to be identifying who’s bankrolling and enabling Johnson. He’s the figurehead for something awful, but he was just “the ‘best’ man for the job” who was willing to do it. Kwarteng, Sunak, Patel, Gove, JRM and others are all part of the cabal. It’s no good replacing Johnson with something with the same hideous mindset.

As citizens of Britain, we can only watch from the sidelines while the Conservative Party destroys our country.

Until the party cleans itself up, we’re ****ed, because they have a Teflon core vote who will hold their noses and vote for them anyway. Sadly, despite everything, I still fear that the core Tory vote, coupled with fantasy reporting from a heavily skewed and really poor quality media will see the Conservatives over the line.

I absolutely agree but I really don't know the best way forward under the present circumstances.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I do love it when someone decides not to pander to a complete moron waffling on and simply calls them out on their complete lack of understanding of any facts relating to the matter, while they plaintively cry 'but I'm entitled to my opinion'

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[rippleman]

I do love it when someone decides not to pander to a complete moron waffling on and simply calls them out on their complete lack of understanding of any facts relating to the matter, while they plaintively cry 'but I'm entitled to my opinion'

That was a great listen. That muppet got totally owned. Another insidious racist moron taken down.

 

[rippleman]

A quote from our racist Home Secretary:

"We will not stand idly by and let organised crime gangs, who are despicable in their nature and their conduct, evil people, treat human beings as cargo."

Of course not. That's her job to treat human beings as cargo. Cargo to be shipped off to a country that has a terrible human rights record and where members of the gay community are persecuted.

She isn't even trying to deal with the people trafficking gangs. She is persecuting the VICTIMS of the people traffiking gangs. It is a cruel, racist policy from a cruel, racist Home Secretary and government.

 

[The Fits]

JOB can be a wind bag but when he is good he is very good. What an idiot that caller sounded.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

A quote from our racist Home Secretary:

"We will not stand idly by and let organised crime gangs, who are despicable in their nature and their conduct, evil people, treat human beings as cargo."

Of course not. That's her job to treat human beings as cargo. Cargo to be shipped off to a country that has a terrible human rights record and where members of the gay community are persecuted.

She isn't even trying to deal with the people trafficking gangs. She is persecuting the VICTIMS of the people traffiking gangs. It is a cruel, racist policy from a cruel, racist Home Secretary and government.

Yvette Cooper wiped the floor with her.



I like this analogy of our present government.

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[beorhthelm]

A quote from our racist Home Secretary:

"We will not stand idly by and let organised crime gangs, who are despicable in their nature and their conduct, evil people, treat human beings as cargo."

Of course not. That's her job to treat human beings as cargo. Cargo to be shipped off to a country that has a terrible human rights record and where members of the gay community are persecuted.

She isn't even trying to deal with the people trafficking gangs. She is persecuting the VICTIMS of the people traffiking gangs. It is a cruel, racist policy from a cruel, racist Home Secretary and government.

yeah, there is a lack of self-awareness in this state of affairs.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Completely despaired listening to PMQs earlier. We all know that this Government is morally and politically bankrupt with a PM totally unfit to lead and a cabinet lacking the balls to tell him. But we are being massively failed by the Opposition when it comes to holding them to account. Starmer would most likely make a fine deputy but he is failing woefully as Leader as he is seemingly unable to land any meaningful blows or articulate a compelling vision of a better future. The Labour Party really need to find someone with more natural political leadership qualities and a vision for Britain or we are never going to get rid of Johnson.

Today, he used his opening questions to weave some contrived Star Wars analogy simply so he could deliver the pay-off line of calling the PM 'Jabba the Hut.' We deserve far more effective Opposition than that, ffs. This is Starmer's opportunity to demonstrate that he is the grown-up in the room, and he does that?

On Newsnight last night they featured a package about vulnerable people having to walk miles to foodbanks for a few hand-out essentials so they don't actually starve to death (as the food banks can no longer afford fuel to visit these people), whilst two men in their fifties are standing up in Parliament and calling each other Jabba the Hut and Captain Hindsight. I appreciate that PMQs is largely considered a bit of pantomime knockabout, but given the very real crisis of people suddenly being unable to settle basic bills, afford food or pay essential travel costs, its just pitiful.

 

[rippleman]

Completely despaired listening to PMQs earlier. We all know that this Government is morally and politically bankrupt with a PM totally unfit to lead and a cabinet lacking the balls to tell him. But we are being massively failed by the Opposition when it comes to holding them to account. Starmer would most likely make a fine deputy but he is failing woefully as Leader as he is seemingly unable to land any meaningful blows or articulate a compelling vision of a better future. The Labour Party really need to find someone with more natural political leadership qualities and a vision for Britain or we are never going to get rid of Johnson.

Today, he used his opening questions to weave some contrived Star Wars analogy simply so he could deliver the pay-off line of calling the PM 'Jabba the Hut.' We deserve far more effective Opposition than that, ffs. This is Starmer's opportunity to demonstrate that he is the grown-up in the room, and he does that?

On Newsnight last night they featured a package about vulnerable people having to walk miles to foodbanks for a few hand-out essentials so they don't actually starve to death (as the food banks can no longer afford fuel to visit these people), whilst two men in their fifties are standing up in Parliament and calling each other Jabba the Hut and Captain Hindsight. I appreciate that PMQs is largely considered a bit of pantomime knockabout, but given the very real crisis of people suddenly being unable to settle basic bills, afford food or pay essential travel costs, its just pitiful.

We had a decent opposition leader in Jeremy Corbyn but the likes of HWT decided he was too left wing and radical and got rid of him. "Champagne socialists" are alive and well!

Then the Labour Party decided it would be a great idea to replace him with someone who is so bland and ineffectual and still hasn't really published any clear policies of his own. "About as exciting as yesterday's rice pudding" as my dear old dad would say.

 

[Bry Nylon]

We had a decent opposition leader in Jeremy Corbyn but the likes of HWT decided he was too left wing and radical and got rid of him. "Champagne socialists" are alive and well!

Then the Labour Party decided it would be a great idea to replace him with someone who is so bland and ineffectual and still hasn't really published any clear policies of his own. "About as exciting as yesterday's rice pudding" as my dear old dad would say.

Well, I'll never agree that JC was a decent opposition leader - if the primary purpose of leading the Opposition is to be a potential PM.

But surely there must be someone in the PLP with some decent leadership skills, charisma and a compelling vision for the future that they can actually articulate and get people to believe in? The biggest problem Labour have always had is that they are far more interested in having a conversation with themselves rather than with the country.