[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Neville's Breakfast]

Your cynicism does you no favours. My other half stood for local councillor in 2007 for the Seagulls Party so we were at the count. 8 candidates of which 5 got over 400-500 votes each, and the other three still in the hundreds, so each constituency counting over 3,000 votes. That was a low turnout.

It could well be a significant event. In 1995 the conservatives lost over 2000 councillors in the local elections, which would've been something like 50% of sitting tory councillors that were up for re-election.

I think Johnson may well stimulate a very large turn out, he deserves one!

Knuckles suitably rapped. Yes, I was a little flippant and a decent turnout with significant Tory losses would certainly hit the party where it hurts.

 

[BBassic]

If Johnson genuinely believes he has done nothing wrong, why isn't HE the one out there defending himself on the news channels?

Because as well as being a duplicitous, conniving, adulterous, privileged Etonian c**t he's also a coward.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

You know what irks me most about the ****tard? His complete inability to wear a tie properly. Nanny clearly failed in her duties and he obviously hasn't worked out what the loop on the back of the front of the tie is for. It is tied way too tight so it distorts the collar and the knot goes in the centre, under the adams apple and in a line with the buttons on the shirt (always assuming he has managed to put his shirt on properly).

This idiot is going around Europe representing the UK dressed like he has just won third place in a Worzel Gummidge looky-likey competition.

It's when he meets important people like the NATO boss today, he looks like a fly tipped mattress and he has that stupid, gormless look on him, totally embarrassing.
Regarding the tie, I could help him out with that, I would like to tighten that knot up until he goes Tory blue.
I think he gets his suits and ties from Grace Brothers and Mr Humphries told him "don't worry sir that will ride up with wear"

 

[TomandJerry]

Met chief says stopping illegal parties was not job for police guarding No 10.

In her interview with Eddie Nestor on BBC Radio London, Dame Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan police commissioner, said it was not the job of officers guarding Downing Street to prevent illegal parties.

She would not say whether the police officers who protect the building knew about the gatherings now being investigated by the Met because they seem to have broken lockdown rules.

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[taz]

84 days until the May elections.

If Johnson isn't gone by then, Tory councillors need to feel the anger at the ballot box.

nothing unusual about a government losing public support mid term, but when it comes to the crunch nobody in their right mind will vote for trotskyists labour and put them in charge of their money how ever well they hide behind their front PR man starmer and call someone with a bit of tinsel round their neck a Christmas party

 

[schmunk]

nothing unusual about a government losing public support mid term, but when it comes to the crunch nobody in their right mind will vote for trotskyists labour and put them in charge of their money how ever well they hide behind their front PR man starmer and call someone with a bit of tinsel round their neck a Christmas party

...aaaaaaaand it's this kind of bellendry which keeps the Tories in power.

 

[HH Brighton]

nothing unusual about a government losing public support mid term, but when it comes to the crunch nobody in their right mind will vote for trotskyists labour and put them in charge of their money how ever well they hide behind their front PR man starmer and call someone with a bit of tinsel round their neck a Christmas party

Hmmm Tory IQ? I think I got the jist of this nonsense after rearrange this words into a coherent sentence.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think they find it easy - I heard from an acquaintance of William Hague that he once said the scariest thing about Tony Blair was that whatever he said in any moment he absolutely believed to be the truth, even if it contradicted and was opposed to something he'd absolutely believed to be the truth 5 minutes earlier, and that was both what made him so effective (he never doubted his convictions) and flawed (he never doubted his convictions). I'd imagine it's a personality defect an increasing number of politicians now have because it makes them successful, and they are so rarely held accountable for it.

With Blair (and a bloke I work with) he sincerely believes his own lies. And they both have immense plausibility and charisma. My colleague has never admitted to anything he's he's said or done, and blanks all evidence.

Johnson knows he's lying and doesn't care. Have a look at the old HIGNFY when he had his collar felt over Darius Guppy. He smirked and said something like 'bang to rights, you've got me'.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

...aaaaaaaand it's this kind of bellendry which keeps the Tories in power.

'trotsykists'

What a plum

 

[Machiavelli]

I think they find it easy - I heard from an acquaintance of William Hague that he once said the scariest thing about Tony Blair was that whatever he said in any moment he absolutely believed to be the truth, even if it contradicted and was opposed to something he'd absolutely believed to be the truth 5 minutes earlier, and that was both what made him so effective (he never doubted his convictions) and flawed (he never doubted his convictions). I'd imagine it's a personality defect an increasing number of politicians now have because it makes them successful, and they are so rarely held accountable for it.

I differ a little on this. Johnson doesn't care about the truth, he cares about power and ego, legacy, etc, which is all in keeping with his relativism and 'great man' theory of history.
Blair did have strong convictions, and was far more rooted than Johnson, not just in the Third Way nonsense, but also in Christianity. I know there are plenty of others that would disagree with this, but I think he really did believe Saddam had WMD, largely because the process and those that he was ingratiated with all wanted to believe this. This to me is something entirely different from the charge that he is/was a liar. I don't think he is. Johnson, on the other hand, ...

 

[Machiavelli]

anyone notice the Conservative political broadcast last night, not mention the leader in any form?

Good spot. Note they'll be planning their local election leaflets within the next month or so. Be interesting to see who appears on those.

 

[Bry Nylon]

....always assuming he has managed to put his shirt on properly.

Still work in progress, I'm afraid. Once he's mastered buttons, we plan to move onto ties.

 

[Machiavelli]

Because as well as being a duplicitous, conniving, adulterous, privileged Etonian c**t he's also a coward.

Yes, positively Trumpian in all bar one of those 'qualities'. They're like two peas in a pod. Bannon's Boys.

 

[Happy Exile]

With Blair (and a bloke I work with) he sincerely believes his own lies. And they both have immense plausibility and charisma. My colleague has never admitted to anything he's he's said or done, and blanks all evidence.

Johnson knows he's lying and doesn't care. Have a look at the old HIGNFY when he had his collar felt over Darius Guppy. He smirked and said something like 'bang to rights, you've got me'.

Great point and an important distinction - with Johnson (and Rees-Mogg and Gove as other immediate examples) it's seems much more deliberate.

 

[Machiavelli]

Still work in progress, I'm afraid. Once he's mastered buttons, we plan to move onto ties.

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Is he having visions of meeting up with Il Duce or Adolf there?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

nothing unusual about a government losing public support mid term, but when it comes to the crunch nobody in their right mind will vote for trotskyists labour and put them in charge of their money how ever well they hide behind their front PR man starmer and call someone with a bit of tinsel round their neck a Christmas party

What were Trotsky's policies? How do they differ from Marxism?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Russia don't think very much of Liz Truss. This is brutal.
Looks like Liz Truss’ Moscow trip has not gone down well with Lavrov, who said UK diplomats came “unprepared” to their meeting and said it was “like a mute talking to a deaf person”




https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1491724760195207168

 

[A1X]

Met chief says stopping illegal parties was not job for police guarding No 10.

In her interview with Eddie Nestor on BBC Radio London, Dame Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan police commissioner, said it was not the job of officers guarding Downing Street to prevent illegal parties.

She would not say whether the police officers who protect the building knew about the gatherings now being investigated by the Met because they seem to have broken lockdown rules.

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Wait, so the police no longer believe it's their job to prevent crime happening?

 

[Bodian]

Still work in progress, I'm afraid. Once he's mastered buttons, we plan to move onto ties.

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It's taken him almost two years to work out the wearing a mask thing....

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Russia don't think very much of Liz Truss. This is brutal.
Looks like Liz Truss’ Moscow trip has not gone down well with Lavrov, who said UK diplomats came “unprepared” to their meeting and said it was “like a mute talking to a deaf person”




https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1491724760195207168

I saw this but the Russians would seek to undermine any UK or European politician. They know there is a constituency over here very receptive to this message and this narrative very much matches Russian interests. All a part of the Phoney/Cold War.