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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Whilst everyone is rejoicing in Braverman's departure, incredulous at Cameron's return, the covid enquiry is continuing.

This thread is horrific. Billions of items of PPE unusable, and more millions on hold due to allegations of modern slavery. The present government then have the gall to boast the NHS funding is at a record high. Money into their cronies pockets, not hospitals or medical staff. Thieves and robbers!

 


Tubby Mondays

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Dec 8, 2005
3,101
A Crack House
Whilst everyone is rejoicing in Braverman's departure, incredulous at Cameron's return, the covid enquiry is continuing.

This thread is horrific. Billions of items of PPE unusable, and more millions on hold due to allegations of modern slavery. The present government then have the gall to boast the NHS funding is at a record high. Money into their cronies pockets, not hospitals or medical staff. Thieves and robbers!


Its been a week of more 'throw another dead cat on the table' to distract away from this.
 




Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
4,015
Bath, Somerset.
Meanwhile, is it any wonder our country is in a mess? Besides 5 Prime Ministers in 7 years, we have also endured -


We can well imagine the furious outage of the Tory press if a Labour Prime Minister/government had presided over just 10% of such instability and incompetence.
 




Hotchilidog

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Jan 24, 2009
9,020
Whilst everyone is rejoicing in Braverman's departure, incredulous at Cameron's return, the covid enquiry is continuing.

This thread is horrific. Billions of items of PPE unusable, and more millions on hold due to allegations of modern slavery. The present government then have the gall to boast the NHS funding is at a record high. Money into their cronies pockets, not hospitals or medical staff. Thieves and robbers!


This shameful waste should be actionable. It's not just the corrupt handing over of tax-payers money to the friends of the government, it's also that the this money spent on vitally needed equipment that was never fit for purpose in protecting frontline staff at the height of the pandemic.

This should be actionable, I'd want to see prosecutions for fraud for this heinous scandal.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,582
hassocks
Whilst everyone is rejoicing in Braverman's departure, incredulous at Cameron's return, the covid enquiry is continuing.

This thread is horrific. Billions of items of PPE unusable, and more millions on hold due to allegations of modern slavery. The present government then have the gall to boast the NHS funding is at a record high. Money into their cronies pockets, not hospitals or medical staff. Thieves and robbers!


Absolutely agree with you they have pocketed money, no doubt - scum bags and should be arrested.

Why is the rest unusable, is it out of date?

I do not recall at the time people moaning about stockpiling or buying it from China, who have a dodgy history when it comes to producing items and slavery
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Absolutely agree with you they have pocketed money, no doubt - scum bags and should be arrested.

Why is the rest unusable, is it out of date?

I do not recall at the time people moaning about stockpiling or buying it from China, who have a dodgy history when it comes to producing items and slavery
It was unusable because it didn't protect the health workers. Over 600 medical staff died whilst treating covid patients, because of insufficient PPE or faulty PPE. You may remember some resorted to bin bags instead of aprons. There are plenty of posts from medical staff decrying the standard of equipment supplied to them.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Absolutely agree with you they have pocketed money, no doubt - scum bags and should be arrested.

Why is the rest unusable, is it out of date?

I do not recall at the time people moaning about stockpiling or buying it from China, who have a dodgy history when it comes to producing items and slavery
too much bought, some out of date (yep, even for face masks and plastic aprons), mixed in with small % unusable. couple years back there were questions why we didn't have stockpiles, now the complaint is stockpiles are not used. which answers why we dont have stockpiles.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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hassocks
It was unusable because it didn't protect the health workers. Over 600 medical staff died whilst treating covid patients, because of insufficient PPE or faulty PPE. You may remember some resorted to bin bags instead of aprons. There are plenty of posts from medical staff decrying the standard of equipment supplied to them.
As pointed out above, it cant be stockpiled due to it having an expiry date, the entire world was trying to buy it at once, there is a limited amount to buy, China started knocking it out on the cheap and no one checked it or how it was sourced.

Google PPE Shortage and a country and you will see the same story repeated in most cases.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
As pointed out above, it cant be stockpiled due to it having an expiry date, the entire world was trying to buy it at once, there is a limited amount to buy, China started knocking it out on the cheap and no one checked it or how it was sourced.

Google PPE Shortage and a country and you will see the same story repeated in most cases.
There is evidence of experienced PPE providers in this country being ignored in favour of the VIP lane, ie Hancocks mate down the pub as well as MOne and Barrowman.
James Dyson was asked to make ventilators and had never made one in his life.
Please stop trying to make excuses for them. The post earlier is an official document and it is emerging in the covid enquiry.

In January, it was evident a pandemic was sweeping the world, and Johnson was in the West Indies. He missed three Cobra meetings which was outiright negligence.
 














Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
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hassocks
There is evidence of experienced PPE providers in this country being ignored in favour of the VIP lane, ie Hancocks mate down the pub as well as MOne and Barrowman.
James Dyson was asked to make ventilators and had never made one in his life.
Please stop trying to make excuses for them. The post earlier is an official document and it is emerging in the covid enquiry.

In January, it was evident a pandemic was sweeping the world, and Johnson was in the West Indies. He missed three Cobra meetings which was outiright negligence.
Absolutely, as I said these people should be charged.

However where do you think they would have gotten the PPE from? there was not any, there was a shortage world wide except the items China suddenly had, cant magic it up.

There is a finite amount of PPE around, highest bidders won, people in the UK screaming to get more in cant now look back and criticise the source of where it was from and if it was attached to slavery.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Absolutely, as I said these people should be charged.

However where do you think they would have gotten the PPE from? there was not any, there was a shortage world wide except the items China suddenly had, cant magic it up.

There is a finite amount of PPE around, highest bidders won, people in the UK screaming to get more in cant now look back and criticise the source of where it was from and if it was attached to slavery.
I can remember seeing established PPE providers in this country, on Twitter, asking why their bids were ignored. Price is irrelevent when the PPE isn't fit for purpose. The government has been proven to have ignored the warnings from Operation Cygnus in October 2016.
You will find my posts on the covid thread going back to 2020 stating exactly this.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Pretty sure that's the first and only one that's been publicised, and it was done so yesterday. Not convinced that constitutes a trickle (see also the previous post :smile:)
Three junior ministers resigned yesterday.

 


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