The not so "Special Relationship" ....

[vegster]

I have always held some affection for the old Septics due to the good old “Special Relationship” but it seems that is not so special after all. We are always the first to throw our lot in with them whenever they want to bludgeon a non-conforming country to their will or if they want a special resolution passed at the UN.

…… the Special Relationship did not work to well for us in Suez, The Falklands and, we were only told of the US invasion of the Commonwealth country of Grenada after it happened.

Recently there has been the Britbashing over BP with ever more litigation and spiralling claims for compensation. This seems hugely hypocritical given the US’s treatment of the Bhopal disaster where thousands lost their lives and the survivors were bought off on the cheap. Now we have a US senate inquiry looking at the case of the Libyan Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi. demanding we review his release process and possibly asking key British politicians to appear before them to explain his release, Claiming a deal was done in order to favour BP exploration in Libya. I think that this arrogant bullying has gone on too long.

This seems very much like the way the Americans do business, anyone remember the Blackwater story and the reconstruction contracts for Iraq ? So, can we still be friends or should we distance ourselves from the cousins ?

I think we are little more than lapdogs now.

 

[Easy 10]

This 'special relationship' cobblers is an embarrassment.
Why not send Galloway over there so he can hand them their arses on a plate again.

 

[perth seagull]

I agree with you. Not to mention the US turning a blind eye to IRA terrorism in the 1980s where a lot of the funding came from over there.

Also, during WWII the British and Americans shared nuclear secrets to develop the Manhatten Project. As soon as the war was over, the US government stabbed the UK in the back by passing a bill saying that they would no longer share their nuclear technology with another nation despite using British expertise to help themselves. This should have been an early sign of things to come for Britain in this so-called "special relationship", it's like being in an abusive relationship with a partner who doesn't give a f*** about you. Wake up Britain, and stop being a doormat.

 

[Simster]

Is there anyone who thinks otherwise, apart from politicians?

It would soon change if we actually properly embraced our European partners, IMO, by getting properly involved in Europe instead of pandering to the Daily Mail readership who flounce every time the EC pass a stupid law on how bent bananas are allowed to be.

 

[Tooting Gull]

Galloway in Washington back in 2007? was marvellous. Can't see Cameron/Blair/Brown ever dishing it out like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W1FZWML6wA

 

[withdeanwombat]

Generally speaking,I like America and most Americans I've met have been decent folk.But to accept from them the hectoring behaviour we have ourselves dished out in the past to smaller countries is a bit,well,naughty.

 

[vegster]

Galloway in Washington back in 2007? was marvellous. Can't see Cameron/Blair/Brown ever dishing it out like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W1FZWML6wA

Thats telling 'em !

 

[bhaexpress]

This 'special relationship' cobblers is an embarrassment.
Why not send Galloway over there so he can hand them their arses on a plate again.

Great idea, he can stay there too, win, win. It is high time we had a government that told the Yanks where to go though, it was sickening to see the toadying of previous administrations.

 

[Easy 10]

Galloway in Washington back in 2007? was marvellous. Can't see Cameron/Blair/Brown ever dishing it out like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W1FZWML6wA

I'm not a Galloway fan by any means, but that was some TOP DRAWER stateside arsekicking he dished out there. Having summonsed him to the Senate for what they thought would be a grilling, they clearly had no idea that THEY'D end up being the ones getting turned on the spitroast.

 

[Peteinblack]

Is there anyone who thinks otherwise, apart from politicians?

It would soon change if we actually properly embraced our European partners, IMO, by getting properly involved in Europe instead of pandering to the Daily Mail readership who flounce every time the EC pass a stupid law on how bent bananas are allowed to be.

Agree 100%.

In the 1970s and 1980s, it was the Soviet Union which was the used as the bogey-man to scare us and divert attention from how our politicians were screwing us over, and turning us into the 51st State/Airstrip One.

Since 1990, the EU has been used as the bogey-man to scare us.

 

[pork pie]

I have always held some affection for the old Septics due to the good old “Special Relationship” but it seems that is not so special after all. We are always the first to throw our lot in with them whenever they want to bludgeon a non-conforming country to their will or if they want a special resolution passed at the UN.

…… the Special Relationship did not work to well for us in Suez, The Falklands and, we were only told of the US invasion of the Commonwealth country of Grenada after it happened.

Recently there has been the Britbashing over BP with ever more litigation and spiralling claims for compensation. This seems hugely hypocritical given the US’s treatment of the Bhopal disaster where thousands lost their lives and the survivors were bought off on the cheap. Now we have a US senate inquiry looking at the case of the Libyan Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi. demanding we review his release process and possibly asking key British politicians to appear before them to explain his release, Claiming a deal was done in order to favour BP exploration in Libya. I think that this arrogant bullying has gone on too long.

This seems very much like the way the Americans do business, anyone remember the Blackwater story and the reconstruction contracts for Iraq ? So, can we still be friends or should we distance ourselves from the cousins ?

I think we are little more than lapdogs now.

I think the "special relationship" will not work with Obama in the White House. I am sure that now even all the liberals who voted him, are also pissed off with him, he will go at the end of his term and it will revert to the old relationship.

Clearly Obama is a complete ****, who has now stooped so low as to try to blame BP for the freeing of the Lockabie bomber, instead of the sweaties who are to blame.

It looks like BP are the latest "threat to US national security" - they are lucky they are not a country - he would have invaded them by now!

 

[Simster]

It's not even as if BP should mean britbashing. It's as much an American company as it is British.

I'll be curious to see whether that bloke is deported for breaches of US national security. He is one of these socially struggling but mega clever types who got into the pentagon's security system and will get up to 65 years if found guilty in the USA, as opposed to 6 years here for the same crime!

 

[BLOCK F]

Obama.....socialist rabble rouser!!Out of his depth as President,regardless of his politics.What a letdown he is proving to be.

 

[The Spanish]

It's not even as if BP should mean britbashing. It's as much an American company as it is British.

I'll be curious to see whether that bloke is deported for breaches of US national security. He is one of these socially struggling but mega clever types who got into the pentagon's security system and will get up to 65 years if found guilty in the USA, as opposed to 6 years here for the same crime!

who does he post as on here?

 

[Simster]

who does he post as on here?

Robot Chicken.

 

[Questions]

If we are looking for the world`s police, rather the Yanks than anyone else. Maybe we should have cosied up to the USSR during the seventies and eighties.

 

[Questions]

who does he post as on here?

Uncle Speilberg.

 

[The Spanish]

I have always held some affection for the old Septics due to the good old “Special Relationship” but it seems that is not so special after all. We are always the first to throw our lot in with them whenever they want to bludgeon a non-conforming country to their will or if they want a special resolution passed at the UN.

…… the Special Relationship did not work to well for us in Suez, The Falklands and, we were only told of the US invasion of the Commonwealth country of Grenada after it happened.

Recently there has been the Britbashing over BP with ever more litigation and spiralling claims for compensation. This seems hugely hypocritical given the US’s treatment of the Bhopal disaster where thousands lost their lives and the survivors were bought off on the cheap. Now we have a US senate inquiry looking at the case of the Libyan Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi. demanding we review his release process and possibly asking key British politicians to appear before them to explain his release, Claiming a deal was done in order to favour BP exploration in Libya. I think that this arrogant bullying has gone on too long.

This seems very much like the way the Americans do business, anyone remember the Blackwater story and the reconstruction contracts for Iraq ? So, can we still be friends or should we distance ourselves from the cousins ?

I think we are little more than lapdogs now.

the Grenada thing always cracks me up. British Imperial noses put out of joint rather than us being rode roughshod over by the nasty Yanks. They have stitched us up with far larger and more influential commonwealth countries with those countries gleeful approval, and no one says a word. A couple of yanks running round on the set of a Lilt advert and everyone is up in arms (well not literally obviously we dont have that much bollocks even though we are officially The Hardest People On Earth apparently). Oi thats our crap pointless island!

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

The USA is becoming more and more insular, and will, continue to distance itself from the EU. Twenty years down the line the same tensions will exist as we currently experience with Russia and China.

 

[Questions]

I agree with you. Not to mention the US turning a blind eye to IRA terrorism in the 1980s where a lot of the funding came from over there.

Also, during WWII the British and Americans shared nuclear secrets to develop the Manhatten Project. As soon as the war was over, the US government stabbed the UK in the back by passing a bill saying that they would no longer share their nuclear technology with another nation despite using British expertise to help themselves. This should have been an early sign of things to come for Britain in this so-called "special relationship", it's like being in an abusive relationship with a partner who doesn't give a f*** about you. Wake up Britain, and stop being a doormat.

That was under the Macmahon act but the USA supplied ALL the delivery systems for our own nucleur weapons/warheads after 1954.