[Politics] The Labour Government

[Zeberdi]

That dish was superb, pork belly and halibut. I’m sure this will be state subsidized under Starmer.

Halibut and pork belly are favourites of mine ( although I like Bass too) but the chilled wine did it for me - I’m hoping it was a dry crisp Sauvignon or maybe you splashed out on a Chablis

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

I’m normally a happy go lucky optimistic glass half full sort of bloke, but I found Thursday’s result dreadful. What should have been a celebration for me was drowned out by learning of the percentage vote of Farage’s National Front party. Personally I’m very VERY concerned about the future.

 

[Weststander]

Halibut and pork belly are favourites of mine ( although I like Bass too) but the chilled wine did it for me - I’m hoping it was a dry crisp Sauvignon or maybe you splashed out on a Chablis

Sea Bass is nectar. We grew up on fresh Bass caught in summer by my Dad from the beach near Beachy Head. Before the decimation of sea stocks.

Baked with some butter.

 

[Weststander]

I’m normally a happy go lucky optimistic glass half full sort of bloke, but I found Thursday’s result dreadful. What should have been a celebration for me was drowned out by learning of the percentage vote of Farage’s National Front party. Personally I’m very VERY concerned about the future.

Labour must get things right such as housing and availability of GP’s/dentists. To choke the interest stirred up by the quasi-fascists. In the first term for starters.

 

[Bry Nylon]

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What should have been a celebration for me was drowned out by learning of the percentage vote of Farage’s National Front party. Personally I’m very VERY concerned about the future.

And I’d say you’ve every right to be. We all should be. I’ve read quite a few dismissive posts on here regarding Reform and Farage since Thursday; but I believe when we look back in years to come, the story of this election just gone will be the emergence of Reform.

Over 4 million votes (4 f***ing million!) from a standing start. That’s 45% of the number of votes Labour got.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Halibut and pork belly are favourites of mine ( although I like Bass too) but the chilled wine did it for me - I’m hoping it was a dry crisp Sauvignon or maybe you splashed out on a Chablis

Champagne, Deutz

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Yes, you're being whooshed

Difficult to know sometimes. Especially because I'm sure there are people who genuinely think like that

 

[Zeberdi]

Given that the Covid enquiry
regarding the UK's pandemic response and, by extension, future pandemic policy remains ongoing, it seems entirely inappropriate to bring Vallance into a cabinet position until said enquiry reaches its conclusions.

What do you think is inappropriate about appointing the Chief Medical Advisor to Covid?

He was openly honest about the previous Government’s ( ie Boris Johnson) response to the Pandemic - particularly where they could have responded more appropriately to the science that was made available to them.

Starmer seems to be deliberately appointing a cabinet that consist of experts in their field and are not led by ideological imperatives - seems to be a very sensible way forward. No?

What we learned from Patrick Vallance at the Covid inquiry

Chief scientific adviser in pandemic says lockdown should have come sooner and Boris Johnson is not great at science

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Weststander]

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And I’d say you’ve every right to be. We all should be. I’ve read quite a few dismissive posts on here regarding Reform and Farage since Thursday; but I believe when we look back in years to come, the story of this election just gone will be the emergence of Reform.

Over 4 million votes (4 f***ing million!) from a standing start. That’s 45% of the number of votes Labour got.

France should be a warning.

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

If anyone truly believes that Starmer and the Labour Government will in any way improve life for the average person in this country they've got a huge shock coming.

Are you a lefty who hates Starmer for not being Corbyn? Or are you one of those lifelong Tory voters who bases their view on the current Labour Party on things that happened in the seventies?

 

[Sussexscots]

What do you think is inappropriate about appointing the Chief Medical Advisor to Covid?

He was openly honest about the previous Government’s ( ie Boris Johnson) response to the Pandemic - particularly where they could have responded more appropriately to the science that was made available to them.

Starmer seems to be deliberately appointing a cabinet that consist of experts in their field and are not led by ideological imperatives - seems to be a very sensible way forward. No?

What we learned from Patrick Vallance at the Covid inquiry

Chief scientific adviser in pandemic says lockdown should have come sooner and Boris Johnson is not great at science

amp.theguardian.com

Vallance was one of the key drivers of Lockdown. Starmer has spoken much of change. Establishing Vallance in a government position ahead of the conclusions of the Covid enquiry suggests a validation of the status quo and an interventionist approach of future pandemic policy; the huge economic and societal harms of lockdowns notwithstanding.

Until the enquiry returns its conclusions, I don't think that is correct. If Starmer wanted him as an advisor in the short term, fine. As a minister, no.

 

[crodonilson]

A really steady start for Sir Keir, his first focus looks like stopping people going to prison and cutting the countries "addiction" to sentencing and punishment of offenders.

 

[Zeberdi]

Vallance was one of the key drivers of Lockdown. Starmer has spoken much of change. Establishing Vallance in a government position ahead of the conclusions of the Covid enquiry suggests a validation of the status quo and an interventionist approach of future pandemic policy; the huge economic and societal harms of lockdowns notwithstanding.

Until the enquiry returns its conclusions, I don't think that is correct. If Starmer wanted him as an advisor in the short term, fine. As a minister, no.

Fair enough - looking at it like that I agree. However Starmer completely agreed with an immediate lockdown too so not sure his policy response to another pandemic would be any different regardless of who was the Health minister. I don’t think any of us want to go back there again regardless .

Keir Starmer calls for immediate lockdown in England as Covid cases soar

Labour leader urges prime minister to impose new nationwide restrictions within next 24 hours

amp.theguardian.com

 

[DavePage]

prob on holiday

 

[Curious Orange]

I see Tony Blair has started banging the drum for ID cards again. Hopefully he'll get ignored on expense grounds alone. He seems to think it'll help with immigration somehow.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The country is in complete chaos now just wait for more train strikes, strikes all over the place, higher taxes.

Hmmmm .... have you been living in a cave the last couple of years ?

 

[essbee1]

No, and Starmer and/or Streeting said pre-election they can't and won't do that.

But both sides will be entering discussions with a willing and positive mindset actively looking for resolution. That alone will make a compromise middleground easier to find.

100% this. Lack of goodwill has seemed to be a big issue until now.

 

[Dinner with Gotsmanov]

Rwanda plan dead in the water

Sir Keir Starmer confirms Rwanda plan 'dead' on day one as PM

The prime minister says he is going through with Labour's pledge to end the pledge to deport illegal migrants to Rwanda.

www.bbc.co.uk

I had a bit of a chuckle when I heard Brains Braverman criticising Labour for the waste of money that scrapping this policy Is. Good job her lot did not spend gazillions on trying to implement an unworkable, red meat to the right plan that was only ever there as a cover up to the fact that they hadn’t a clue on how to tackle the real issue.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Halibut and pork belly are favourites of mine ( although I like Bass too) but the chilled wine did it for me - I’m hoping it was a dry crisp Sauvignon or maybe you splashed out on a Chablis

Pork belly is very very underrated imho. The one last night was gloriously soft and tasty.

 

[Hugo Rune]

One thing to note.

The Tories started off their election campaign with the line ‘Labour do not have a plan’. This was, however dropped when they realised is contradicted their tax plan lies propaganda.

In terms of a ‘plan’. Not only did Labour have a very good one for the election (ming vase strategy) but it also appears that they have significant plans in every department. Reading about the possible prisons strategy this morning, this is no Tory light government.

There is going to be massive positive change in this country over the next decade and Tories will be powerless to stop it.