The Daily Mail

[El Presidente]

The Daily Mail seems very isolated at the moment, mainly because the vast majority of people recognise that it has been spouting spurious and vindictive fabricated nonsense..

The only person publicly defending the Mail is Michael Gove, whose wife is a journalist who writes for...................

 

[The Large One]

You don't get the difference between reporting events in the country, which happened after Thatcher died, and a character assassination of a dead man based on his diary at the age of 17.

I assume that was meant for SotW.

 

[spring hall convert]

oh do grow up.

I vote tory and am not ashamed to admit it,all my albion going mates do as well and none are ashamed either, bar one who doesnt vote tory and is a serious socialist leftie,but he earns £200,000 a year minimum before bonuses so i dont take him too seriously on his beliefs, i also read the Daily Mail and i know plenty of people that admit to it also.

i suggest you just get out more

or stop being so childish.

Firstly fair play to you for having the courage of your convictions. Without debate we get nowhere.

BUT a Mail reader imploring someone to "get out more." It seems to me that one of the papers primary functions is to scare people about doing exactly that. Europe - bad, Blacks - bad, Muslims - bad, Jews - bad, Gays -bad, crime through the roof, paedophiles on every street corner etc...
The mail representation of what Britian is, is completely at odds with 99% of the populous's experience

 

[Mellotron]

Firstly fair play to you for having the courage of your convictions. Without debate we get nowhere.

BUT a Mail reader imploring someone to "get out more." It seems to me that one of the papers primary functions is to scare people about doing exactly that. Europe - bad, Blacks - bad, Muslims - bad, Jews - bad, Gays -bad, crime through the roof, paedophiles on every street corner etc...
The mail representation of what Britian is, is completely at odds with 99% of the populous's experience

Absolutely spot on. A Mail reader suggesting other people should be more open minded would be funny if it wasn't so depressing.

 

[spring hall convert]

Did you really expect a leftie to praise a right wing newspaper? It depends what side of politics you be;ieve in...

Actually, I think the Telegraph does a half decent job of representing right wing views without resoting to bully boy tactics, extreme bigotry and politics of fear.

And their cricket coverage is great.

 

[spring hall convert]

The same as the obsession of the left having the idea that everyone on the right live in mansions and are rich.The left idea of everyone being equal is an impossible dream...every country has rulers...you cannot tell me that the presidents of communist coutries live the same as peasants....there is an even wider difference in those countries
Everybody...left or right gets an opportunity here to improve their lot in life... (unless your a benefit cheat who is happy to leech on the working class)it's just envy that some people have more than you....I do not hear Labour ranting that Tony Blair has 7 properties worth millions and earns £200,000 just for giving a speech...left and right politicians have far more than I have...just be thankful you were not born in China/North Korea in the 40s...

How many times......... Tony Blair ISN'T/WASN'T a socialist. He was marginally to the left of Thatcher, this does not make him Karl Marx. The true left ceased to have representation a long time ago.

 

[Mellotron]

Actually, I think the Telegraph does a half decent job of representing right wing views without resoting to bully boy tactics, extreme bigotry and politics of fear.

And their cricket coverage is great.

Another "leftie" who agrees with this. I'm not actually a massive fan of the Guardian, find them a bit too up themselves.

 

[spring hall convert]

Really ?? so why did he write this then ? ‘The Englishman is a rabid nationalist. They are perhaps the most nationalist people in the world . . . you sometimes want them almost to lose (the war) to show them how things are. They have the greatest contempt for the Continent . . . To lose their empire would be the worst possible humiliation'

Erm... how does that insinuate he hates Britain? I think what he is saying is that he dislikes all the jingoistic, empire based nationalist BS, that I agree is best left in the past & a barrier to our progress in the wider world.

Pretty sensible stement if you ask me.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Actually, I think the Telegraph does a half decent job of representing right wing views without resoting to bully boy tactics, extreme bigotry and politics of fear.

And their cricket coverage is great.

This. I'm a Guardian reader in general but happily admit to picking up The Times and The Telegraph every now and again. It seems a little pointless to me to only read stuff that agrees with your own views. However I draw the line at the Mail, Express and Sun because their rabidness and simplicity depress me.

 

[spring hall convert]

It's a very odd world where people praise Alastair Campbell for moralising about dirty tricks and smears. He was directly responsible for the death of David Kelly when trying to smear a reporter, he lied and instructed others to lie in order to send Britain to war, he was caught out smearing tory politicians. He headed the dirty tricks department at Number 10.

He doesn't have the right to lecture others. The man is a grade 'A' scumbag.

Well said. In another world he might have made an exceptional DM editor.

 

[somerset]

. The true left ceased to have representation a long time ago.

....until Ed turned up of course....

 

[Nibble]

Personally if I was Milliband and asked to comment on the Mail article about my Father, despite the obvious urge to defend my own, I would have said
"If you bring me a well reasoned, accurate article from a worthy journalist commenting on what Father did or didn't do in his life I will read and respond. I know who my Father was and what he stood for and sensationalist nonsense from a paper with a history of this kind of "reportage" doesn't warrant a second more spent on it. Now, if you'll excuse me I have an election campaign to be getting on with. Good-day."

Edit: If he said anything similar to this I haven't heard it. I just saw Ed spluttering something about "He's not a liar, he's not a liar" and Campbell sticking his ridiculous hooter into the fray.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

This. I'm a Guardian reader in general but happily admit to picking up The Times and The Telegraph every now and again. It seems a little pointless to me to only read stuff that agrees with your own views. However I draw the line at the Mail, Express and Sun because their rabidness and simplicity depress me.

That's about right, for me too. Except that, despite being the archetypal 'Guardian reader', I actually don't ever read it. I do read the Times and the Telegraph, because they contain some quality writing and some excellent sports coverage.

 

[spring hall convert]

....until Ed turned up of course....

We'll see, he's certainly starting to make the right noises.

 

[spring hall convert]

I'm obviously very late to this discussion but personally I think Ed should take this as a massive compliment. Someone at the DM is seriously rattled & I think 90% of the population will see that the DM's hysterical reaction is motivated by a desire to stifle debate, rather than encourage it.

 

[mikeyjh]

And they're at it again, attending a memorial event for Ed Miliband's uncle - Of course it's in the public interest.....

http://labourpress.tumblr.com/post/62985465439/ed-miliband-letter-to-lord-rothermere

 

[HOFNSKIN]

Ed Miliband MP, Leader of the Labour Party, has written to Lord Rothermere, the proprietor of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday newspapers:

Dear Lord Rothermere,

Yesterday I spoke at a memorial event held at Guy’s Hospital in London for my uncle, Professor Harry Keen, a distinguished doctor who died earlier this year. It was an event in a room on the 29th floor of Guy’s Hospital which was attended only by family members, close friends and colleagues.

I was told by one of my relatives late yesterday evening that a reporter from the Mail on Sunday had found her way into the event uninvited. I also discovered that, once there, she approached members of my family seeking comments on the controversy over the Daily Mail’s description of my late father as someone who “hated Britain”.

My wider family, who are not in public life, feel understandably appalled and shocked that this can have happened.

The Editor of the Mail on Sunday has since confirmed to my office that a journalist from his newspaper did indeed attend the memorial uninvited with the intention of seeking information for publication this weekend.

Sending a reporter to my late uncle’s memorial crosses a line of common decency. I believe it a symptom of the culture and practices of both the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday.

There are many decent people working at those newspapers and I know that many of them will be disgusted by this latest episode. But they will also recognise that what has happened to my family has happened to many others.

I believe no purpose would be served by me complaining to the Press Complaints Commission because it is widely discredited.

Instead, I am writing to you as the owners of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday because I believe it is long overdue that you reflect on the culture of your newspapers. You should conduct your own swift investigation into who was responsible at a senior level for this latest episode and also who is responsible for the culture and practices of these newspapers which jar so badly with the values of your readers.

There are bigger issues for the people of Britain in the midst of the worst cost of living crisis for a century than intrusion into the life of my family. But the reaction of many people to the Daily Mail’s attacks on my father this week demonstrates that the way your newspapers have behaved does not reflect the real character of our country.

It is now your responsibility to respond.


Ed Miliband


A nasty newspaper owned by a nasty family.

 

[spring hall convert]

Ed Miliband MP, Leader of the Labour Party, has written to Lord Rothermere, the proprietor of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday newspapers:

Dear Lord Rothermere,

Yesterday I spoke at a memorial event held at Guy’s Hospital in London for my uncle, Professor Harry Keen, a distinguished doctor who died earlier this year. It was an event in a room on the 29th floor of Guy’s Hospital which was attended only by family members, close friends and colleagues.

I was told by one of my relatives late yesterday evening that a reporter from the Mail on Sunday had found her way into the event uninvited. I also discovered that, once there, she approached members of my family seeking comments on the controversy over the Daily Mail’s description of my late father as someone who “hated Britain”.

My wider family, who are not in public life, feel understandably appalled and shocked that this can have happened.

The Editor of the Mail on Sunday has since confirmed to my office that a journalist from his newspaper did indeed attend the memorial uninvited with the intention of seeking information for publication this weekend.

Sending a reporter to my late uncle’s memorial crosses a line of common decency. I believe it a symptom of the culture and practices of both the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday.

There are many decent people working at those newspapers and I know that many of them will be disgusted by this latest episode. But they will also recognise that what has happened to my family has happened to many others.

I believe no purpose would be served by me complaining to the Press Complaints Commission because it is widely discredited.

Instead, I am writing to you as the owners of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday because I believe it is long overdue that you reflect on the culture of your newspapers. You should conduct your own swift investigation into who was responsible at a senior level for this latest episode and also who is responsible for the culture and practices of these newspapers which jar so badly with the values of your readers.

There are bigger issues for the people of Britain in the midst of the worst cost of living crisis for a century than intrusion into the life of my family. But the reaction of many people to the Daily Mail’s attacks on my father this week demonstrates that the way your newspapers have behaved does not reflect the real character of our country.

It is now your responsibility to respond.


Ed Miliband


A nasty newspaper owned by a nasty family.

I'm really interested how people are going to try and defend this one.

Not only is it morally bankrupt, it's complacent and stupid to a degree I didn't think possible.

EDIT: Also, what a fantastically dignified and well thought out response. I'm really starting to warm to Ed.

 

[Nibble]

Miliband leaves to leave it now. The correct thinking public and various media bods know the Mail is being idiotic. If he's that concerned he needs to get a lawyer to pen a cease and desist letter to the Mail, otherwise let the whole thing become chip wrapping.

 

[East Preston Gull]

On a side note. The three party leaders all have the kind of face I would like to kick with my boot after I had trodden in dog shit!