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Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
I'm trying to work out what, exactly, Dave thinks he's brought back from his latest trip to Europe. A litre of malt whisky from the airport shop, maybe. But anything else?

I suppose he's kept his extreme right wing back backbenchers off his back and prompted the collapse of the coalition and pissed off most European states sufficiently to ensure that they'll happily ignore any British interests or concerns. He probably views it as a balanced outcome.
 






Seagull on the wing

New member
Sep 22, 2010
7,458
Hailsham
No actually,we had our last true(pre North Sea oil revenues)balance of trade surplus when fatcher took over,manufacturing decline and asset stripping became the new "Make it and sell it" and all the wealth from the north sea and flogging off the family silver,Gas-Telecoms-Water-TSB and all the rest got pissed up the wall on dole payments and imports.
So Brown did'nt sell half our gold reserves at the lowest price possible and he did'nt raid the pension funds then...every time Labour get in the country falls into debt and someone else has to come in and pick the mess...shown completely by the note that said 'There's no money left'
 


jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
7,952
Woking
Really? If Clegg would grow a pair, he could bring the Government down. Not sure Cameron would get a majority if we went to the polls after last weeks stunt.

Any bid by the LibDems to go to the polls now would be suicide. They have already been more or less eliminated in the polls following the student fees issue and they can hardly fight a general election on a pro-European platform when the public at large simply will not stand for that. Therefore they have to tough it out whatever comes at them. To do otherwise means their effective elimination in Westminster right now.

Politics eh? Tsk!
 


Mr Burns

New member
Aug 25, 2003
5,915
Springfield
Clegg will never grow a pair. This is his chance to be in the limelight for five minutes. He knows that, at the end of this parliament, he is finished.
Never a truer word spoken. David Cameron could go on telly and tell the "whining little shit to shut up" and there is not a thin Clegg can do about it. He is Camerons whore. The second Clegg breaks the coalition is the second the Lib Dems are wipped from the face of politics. The only way out for Clegg is either death, or too wait until a few months before the end of this governments term, and start his whining then.Either way the Lib Dems are f***ed.Completely and totally f***ed.
 




Caveman

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2003
9,926
So Brown did'nt sell half our gold reserves at the lowest price possible and he did'nt raid the pension funds then...every time Labour get in the country falls into debt and someone else has to come in and pick the mess...shown completely by the note that said 'There's no money left'

So do you think Dave is right here?

Some experts seem to think there will be no eurozone in the years to come...?
 










hitony

Administrator
Jul 13, 2005
16,284
South Wales (im not welsh !!)
15 to 20 pages, 2 bannings, 4 warnings and the end result................... the thread being moved to the other stuff....................thats my prediction :lol:

(Oh and before all you hitony / mod luvvers get on my back....the above is meant as a joke!:) )
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
The lefties have spent the last 32 years in the political wilderness. All they've managed to come up with is some fantasy about the collapse of capitalism.




Oh.

haha! Collapse? The worst financial crisis since the 30s and the world over, people are still voting in Governments that champion the free market. If this is a collapse of capitalism then how would you describe the fall of the Soviet Union? A full blown epileptic fit?

The only way that lefties have become electable in the last 32 years is by pretending not to be leftie. These left-wing social commentators are worse than that American who keeps predicting the end of the world.

I'm McLoving it.
 




The Auditor

New member
Sep 30, 2004
2,764
Villiers Terrace
Clegg will never grow a pair. This is his chance to be in the limelight for five minutes. He knows that, at the end of this parliament, he is finished.

He'll just swap from Yellow to Blue ... he was a young conservative in the Maggie years he'll revert to type !
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,222
Goldstone
As opposed to Labour that spent, spent and spent to get us in this mess..........
To fix the mess that the conservatives made by not spending enough, and the mess the conservatives made by letting anyone with money in the city do what they please?
:lolol: oh please. When Labour left in 1979 the country was a mess. When the Conservatives left in 1997 it wasn't. Then when Labour left in 2010 it was a mess again. See the pattern? We'd rather have a Labour government spreading the country's wealth, but every time we vote them in, they f*** it up and we have no choice but to ask the Tories to fix it again.

Labour had over 10 years from 1997 before it went tits up. Over 10 years to place restrictions on banks, and 10 years to get the economy how they wanted it. You can argue most points in politics, but trying to blame the crash of 2008 on the Tories is a bit much.
 








Caveman

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2003
9,926
:lolol: oh please. When Labour left in 1979 the country was a mess. When the Conservatives left in 1997 it wasn't. Then when Labour left in 2010 it was a mess again. See the pattern? We'd rather have a Labour government spreading the country's wealth, but every time we vote them in, they f*** it up and we have no choice but to ask the Tories to fix it again.

Labour had over 10 years from 1997 before it went tits up. Over 10 years to place restrictions on banks, and 10 years to get the economy how they wanted it. You can argue most points in politics, but trying to blame the crash of 2008 on the Tories is a bit much.

They should take some credit for finally getting us to the Amex though. Not sure how another party would have faired?

Why were the Conservatives voted out in 1997 then? If things were so rosy I am sure they wouldn't have been given the elbow.
 




Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
So Brown did'nt sell half our gold reserves at the lowest price possible and he did'nt raid the pension funds then...every time Labour get in the country falls into debt and someone else has to come in and pick the mess...shown completely by the note that said 'There's no money left'

How many times will you trot this out. Go and have a look at the Gold price for the past 20 years and then work out how it was sold at the lowest price possible. If you had that gold when would you have sold it then?

The gold price was going nowhere and the rise came after he sold that half. If he sold it at a low buying it now when its high would be stupid but thats what several countries are doing now.
In truth Brown was probably ordered to sell it by the ECB/fed in order to kill the gold price and protect Fiat currencies. He thought the price would stay level for evermore - now that was stupid!
 




Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
: When the Conservatives left in 1997 it wasn't. Then when Labour left in 2010 it was a mess again. See the pattern? .

Are you a complete dunce? If the country wasn't a mess in 97 then why did the government get voted out? Things were in a right state and we'd just had a horrific recession due to Tory (yes Tory) poor financial management. The NHS was on its knees. Things were grim, and borrowing levels as a percent of GDP were higher than they were at ANY time during Labours last 12 year term!

Both parties are full of shit. Until people realise, and heaven forbid somebody challenges with an alternative, we are getting exactly what we deserve. I do not believe the Tories would have done one thing differently than Labour, except
delivered even less in welfare reforms.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,314
Hove
Our economy has become inextricably linked to the banks and the city of London financial sector. This started in the '80's and has simply gathered pace. Doesn't matter who is in power at Westminster, if you take a decision to hit the banks, then you're hitting a huge part of our economy. Not sure how we alter it. We need to manufacture and specialise if we are to shift our economy away from a reliance on the financial sector.
 


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