The Argus today - Micky Adams on Adam Virgo

[hans kraay fan club]

It's not the only reason. I think Virgo's defensive qualities edge Whing's.

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Apart from heading, they don't though, do they?

I like Virgo, Conboy. I think he's a top bloke, and a pretty good centre back. Your views on certain players are totally one-eyed. Do you actually know a couple of the players concerned, personally?

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

So that'd be the same Adam Virgo who, I'd guess, played 75% of our play off winning season at right back? And the same Adam Virgo that when coming from the youth system was touted as a right-back.

If you say so; just a shame that with all this supposed experience it took most of the first half on Tuesday for AV to find/work out where the right back position is.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Apart from heading, they don't though, do they?

I like Virgo, Conboy. I think he's a top bloke, and a pretty good centre back. Your views on certain players are totally one-eyed. Do you actually know a couple of the players concerned, personally?

Whether I do or not is irrelavant. It's all about opinions and I think Virgo is a marginally better option at right-back than Whing, as do others. But, we'll see who's playing their come the end of the season.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Whether I do or not is irrelavant. .

Bollocks. Its entirely relevant. It would explain immediately why you are so sensitive to any criticism of the players concerned. Its fair enough - I'd stick up for my mates too.

I think Virgo is a marginally better option at right-back than Whing, as do others. But, we'll see who's playing their come the end of the season.

We'll see who's playing, yes. But that won't actually tell us who SHOULD be.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

If you say so; just a shame that with all this supposed experience it took most of the first half on Tuesday for AV to find/work out where the right back position is.

Never got forward in the entire 90 minutes either.
Some nice positional kicking though, switching the point of the attack, getting the forwards up the pitch etc - ideal in a game of rugby union.

 

[Mendoza]

It's not the only reason. I think Virgo's defensive qualities edge Whing's.

I didnt go to Peterborough, so I cant comment on his distribution their. But I'm not going to judge his distribution from the 20 minutes he had at right-back against Hereford with no right-midfielder in front of him. Although his central midfield performences as a whole havent been the best his passing was still far more accomplished than Whing's.

Fair enough mate. I just think thatr because Whing is a specialst right back, he should play at right back, and becuase Virgo is a specialist centre back, he should play centre back.

Adams wouldnt play Whing in midfield or upfront to keep him in the team, so why does he do it with Virgo. Whing is wuality, and thats why he played every game this season until Peterborough where he was unluckily dropped. Virgo was POOR in that game, think I gave him a 5, where most players earned at least a 7

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Bollocks. Its entirely relevant. It would explain immediately why you are so sensitive to any criticism of the players concerned. Its fair enough - I'd stick up for my mates too.




Not if Thicky Adams won't let Whing play, we won't.

I know where you're coming from. But I understand any criticism Virgo recieves from people on here, I can see your reasons for prefering Whing at right back, I just disagree with them. I think Whing is a decent bloke as well, though some of his social activites could be questioned, but lets not go down that road. I think being dropped from the team could be a kick up the backside he needs.

Virgo knows he hasnt been at his best so far this season and so do we, if Adams gives him a run in the team at right back I think we'll start to see the Virgo we know. If he doesnt perform at right back then I'll eat my words.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Well, that's a more reasoned response, so we'll agree to leave it there.

The situation is a farce though. Whing's been playing fine in his specialist position. Virgo by his own admission has been below-par. So why on earth should Whing make way, so that Virgo can have a stab at that position instead of the other three he's failed to impress in?

 

[Trigger]

Virgo must have an incriminating photo of Adams or something along those lines.

 

[Les Biehn]

Virgo must have an incriminating photo of Adams or something along those lines.

http://www.virgosrevenge.com

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Of course the ludicrous thing is, Virgo has started once this season, in HIS ACTUAL position, against Man City, and played a blinder.

I'm not even going to start trying to understand how Adams' brain works.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Well, that's a more reasoned response, so we'll agree to leave it there.

The situation is a farce though. Whing's been playing fine in his specialist position. Virgo by his own admission has been below-par. So why on earth should Whing make way, so that Virgo can have a stab at that position instead of the other three he's failed to impress in?

I'd have had him at centre half from day one, but I'm prepared to give the Hawkins-Elphick combo a chance now Hawkins is fit again.

 

[Mendoza]

I'm not even going to start trying to understand how Adams' brain works.

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[Mr Blunt]

You're entitled to your view, but please explain these stats for us;

"As Richards prepares for his 50th appearance for the club at Hartlepool on Saturday, the contrast in results with and without Richards in the side since the start of last season can surely not be a complete coincidence. Albion have lost fewer matches in the 49 he has played in than in the 21 when he has been missing. They have also averaged a clean sheet in better than one in every three games with Richards helping to glue the back four together, compared to a shut-out every ten-and-a-half outings in his absence. "

Sorry hans i have not got time to look for the percentage of wins that brighton has had with virgo at right back in there PROMOTION wining season.
Well i cant argue with the stats on Richards but i dont always believe every stat..

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Suit yourself. They look pretty compelling to me.

 

[Silent Bob]

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If he really LOVED him than he'd treat him better. It seems more like a sado-masochistic relationship.

 

[BensGrandad]

I have been saying for all of the season that Virgo isa better right back than Whing has been so far. His defending is better as he pushes the wingers wide rather than allow them to come inside of him, his heading is far superior having been a centre back for so long. His distribution is better in that he sends the ball deeper either down the wing or down the goalkeepers throat which give the likes of Murray the opportunity to attack the ball. If Murray or Forster win those balls, provided the header is on target ,most times it will be a goal. Whing puts in his crosses down the throat of the central defenders who, if attacked by Murray still have the goalkeeper as a safeguard to stop the goal.

Virgo is also better at going forward for set pieces.

 

[HseagullsH]

I'd want Whing right back.
Every player should be treated the same, and they quite frankly are not being treated the same.
Virgo gets given a few games to impress in one position, if it doesn't work he gets a new position for a few games. It's ridiculous.

I'd keep Whing at right back, he may not be the most talented player but he doesn't deserve all the stick he gets and i also think Virgo/Elphick would prove to be the best partnership we have in the centre of defence.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

His distribution is better in that he sends the ball.. down the goalkeepers throat which give the likes of Murray the opportunity to attack the ball. If Murray or Forster win those balls, provided the header is on target ,most times it will be a goal. Whing puts in his crosses down the throat of the central defenders who, if attacked by Murray still have the goalkeeper as a safeguard to stop the goal.
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You intrigue me, BG. Sometimes you give the impression you know a bit about the game.

Then you post stuff like this.

 

[glasfryn]

Reading this thread it seems pretty obvious that MA does not have the respect of all as a coach and IMHO the Albion should crawl on bended knee to DW and ask him to coach the first team ..............yes,yes I know it was muted at the start of the season but also IMHO it would be a dream team MA for the encouragement and shouting at and DW for the actual coaching.


runs away from the obvious bombardment to come