[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

[Bodian]

What Hunter Biden's conviction means for President Joe Biden

The guilty verdict is unlikely to change voters' minds, but it will be a personal blow for the US president.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hunter’s conviction is pretty devastating for Biden on a personal level but it is hardly likely to impact on his polling.

What is significant is the difference between the way Trump has raged and rallied against judges, witnesses, the Democrats for months and months from the pulpit and on social media, calling his conviction for his criminal behaviour and indictments a witch-hunt and yet not one disparaging comment from President Biden about the justice system that could now send his son to prison - just quiet, sad dignity.

The contrast between these too men couldn’t be starker.

Indeed - and Joe Biden has said he won't pardon his son as well; in stark contrast to Trump who wants to pardon himself and anyone associated with him.

And what a sad state of affairs re Holly Vallance

Donald Trump fundraiser in London ‘already has $2m’ day before event

Reception and dinner with Donald Trump Jr will be hosted by actor Holly Valance and attended by Nigel Farage

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zeberdi]

Indeed - and Joe Biden has said he won't pardon his son as well; in stark contrast to Trump who wants to pardon himself and anyone associated with him.

And what a sad state of affairs re Holly Vallance

Donald Trump fundraiser in London ‘already has $2m’ day before event

Reception and dinner with Donald Trump Jr will be hosted by actor Holly Valance and attended by Nigel Farage

www.theguardian.com

Don’t start me on Nigel Farage being in Trump’s pocket and vice versa .

I can’t believe there are people defending him on NSC - They seem not to have a clue who these people really are!

Nigel Farage sharing a platform with far right pro-Russian, Putin ally, Victor Orbán the Hungarian Prime Minister in April this year

Farage and Orbán’s Brussels jamboree descends into mayhem amid police siege

“Tinpot dictatorship,” a National Conservatism Conference organizer fumed at local mayors.

www.politico.eu

Donald Trump and Farage sharing a fundraising event

Donald Trump fundraiser in London ‘already has $2m’ day before event

Reception and dinner with Donald Trump Jr will be hosted by actor Holly Valance and attended by Nigel Farage

www.theguardian.com

Trump’s Truth Social funded by Russian-American owner of Paxum Bank with proven links to Russian based lawyers and money-laundering Russian funds into the US

Trump Media saved in 2022 by Russian-American under criminal investigation

Exclusive: Trump’s social media company went public relying partly on loans from trust managed by person of interest to prosecutors

www.theguardian.com

Farage at American CPAC fundraising event for his Brexit campaign

Dubbed a gathering of the “best and brightest leaders in the world”, the former UKIP and Brexit Party leader joined Donald Trump, Viktor Orbán, Republican politicians such as Ted Cruz and Matt Gaetz, Fox news alumni Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck, and unashamed far-right activists Steve Bannon and Jack Posobiec.

Farage's CPAC Speech, War and the Modern Far Right

Sian Norris analyses the rhetoric of war in Nigel Farage's performance at CPAC, and explores its links to fascist theory

bylinetimes.com

Farage admiring Putin just like Trump



Liz Trust, global far-right strategist, Steve Bannon, President Trump’s confident and former White House strategist and Nigel Farage all cosy together at a far right conference last February in the US

Britain’s ‘deep state’ thwarted my plans, Liz Truss tells US far-right summit

Former Conservative PM, whose tenure lasted 50 days, tells CPAC she fell victim to UK’s ‘establishment … its bureaucrats and lawyers’

www.theguardian.com

Liz Truss stating that: "I do agree that under Donald Trump when he was president of the United States, the world was safer... I want to work with fellow conservatives to take on what I believe is a real threat of Western society and civilization being undermined by left-wing extreme ideas."

Trump on giving classified information to the Russians

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/528511980/report-trump-gave-classified-information-to-russians-during-white-house-visit

They are all swimming in the same murky pond of an extremist far right global nationalist movement - What I don’t understand is why anyone with average intelligence and who keeps abreast of the news can’t see that .








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[Crawley Dingo]

Oh, sorry, I was just expanding your comment for people who didn't know what Alvin Braggs 'get Trump' ticket was:
* Had previously prosecuted Trump
* Wouldn't stop the ongoing investigation set up by Cyrus Vance

Your theatrics aside, he was elected in 21. What previous prosecution?

Second point if true, how is that relevant to saying Bragg campaigned on a Get Trump?

Edited to add.
OK looked into it, i don't see how this is relevant to my comment.

 

[Eeyore]

Indeed - and Joe Biden has said he won't pardon his son as well; in stark contrast to Trump who wants to pardon himself and anyone associated with him.

And what a sad state of affairs re Holly Vallance

Donald Trump fundraiser in London ‘already has $2m’ day before event

Reception and dinner with Donald Trump Jr will be hosted by actor Holly Valance and attended by Nigel Farage

www.theguardian.com

Valance told GB News after the event: “I would say that everyone starts as a lefty and then wakes up at some point after you start either making money, working, trying to run a business, trying to buy a home, and then realise what crap ideas they all are, and then you go to the right.”

I was a member of the Conservative Party in 1992. Then I met some of them... I haven't voted Tory for 30 years and cannot really see myself voting Right or Centre Right ever again. I'm apolitical now, mind. If a Tory stood for council who I thought could do a lot of good for my community I would consider it (I would have voted for Brian Oxley had I lived in Wish Ward a few years back). My problem with the Tories is not any outright opposition to all their policies, it's just that I don't like the heart within.

 

[Curious Orange]

Your theatrics aside, he was elected in 21. What previous prosecution?

Second point if true, how is that relevant to saying Bragg campaigned on a Get Trump?

Edited to add.
OK looked into it, i don't see how this is relevant to my comment.

The previous prosecution was of the Trump Foundation.

I don't quite see how promising not to stop an ongoing investigation into Trump if elected isn't relevant to the running on a 'get Trump' ticket idea that you brought up. We must be talking at cross-puposes somewhere.

 

[FamilyGuy]

What Hunter Biden's conviction means for President Joe Biden

The guilty verdict is unlikely to change voters' minds, but it will be a personal blow for the US president.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hunter’s conviction is pretty devastating for Biden on a personal level but it is hardly likely to impact on his polling.

What is significant is the difference between the way Trump has raged and rallied against judges, witnesses, the Democrats for months and months from the pulpit and on social media, calling his conviction for his criminal behaviour and indictments a witch-hunt and yet not one disparaging comment from President Biden about the justice system that could now send his son to prison - just quiet, sad dignity.

The contrast between these too men couldn’t be starker.

If Biden and the Democrats are hell-bent on weaponising the entire DOJ and the US Justice System for their own ends - they're doing a pretty crappy job of it! (ain't irony great?)

 

[schmunk]

If Biden and the Democrats are hell-bent on weaponising the entire DOJ and the US Justice System for their own ends - they're doing a pretty crappy job of it! (ain't irony great?)

That's Democrats for you - corrupt AND incompetent...

 

[hughfromalice]

This chant came to me in a dream...... I was attending a Trump rally. I felt a brotherly urge rise up, irresistibly, from the depths of my soul. The Lord had taken pity on his favoured son, Donald Trump, after his littany of legal woes and had chosen me as his vessel to cheer up the MAGA faithful. So I went to the mic and regailed these staunch defenders of democracy with a new and powerful election jingle set to a well known song.

For he's a jolly good felon
For he's a jolly good felon
For he's a jolly good felon
And so say all of us.

Strangely, after that, the dream dissolved into a red mist and I can remember no more.

This is a great little song with such positive lyrics, isn't it. Please make sure to get your friends to sing it, especially if they are travelling to the US of A.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Trump calls Milwaukee horrible - Bing

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Donald Trump calls Milwaukee 'a horrible city' weeks before Republican National Convention comes to town​

MSN

Trump refers to Milwaukee as 'horrible' just before the city hosts the Republican convention​

 

[Albion my Albion]

Biden campaign strikes while the Trump remarks about Milwaukee are hot.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Congressperson from Milwaukee reacts to Trump calling Milwaukee horrible

MSN

I loved when the Congress lady said the crime rate will go up when Donald Trump comes to Milwaukee (if he doesn't go to jail first) because he is a 34 count felon.

Milwaukee · Wisconsin, USA

Wisconsin, USA

www.google.com

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

There seems to be questions about Trump's mental faculties , talking gibberish at rallies and unable to string two sentences together.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

There seems to be questions about Trump's mental faculties , talking gibberish at rallies and unable to string two sentences together.

But he's pretty much always been like that. I remember in the 80's thinking 'what an absolute idiot'.

 

[Bodian]

There seems to be questions about Trump's mental faculties , talking gibberish at rallies and unable to string two sentences together.

That's not new - but it doesn't seem to affect his support.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

But he's pretty much always been like that. I remember in the 80's thinking 'what an absolute idiot'.

Its got a whole lot worse since he was found guilty on 34 counts.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Its got a whole lot worse since he was found guilty on 34 counts.

Good.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

There seems to be questions about Trump's mental faculties , talking gibberish at rallies and unable to string two sentences together.

Your confusing with Biden.

 

[lasvegan]

The Media Plot to Question Trump's Cognition is in Full Swing

hotair.com

 

[chickens]

The Media Plot to Question Trump's Cognition is in Full Swing

hotair.com

When I visited that website, it immediately popped up a banner suggesting that its advertisers boycotted it, and claiming that its writers were physically attacked, and suggesting that only my donations could keep Hot Air (seriously) running.

However, after politely declining to contribute, I did click through to the article, and read it.

Now, it hasn’t gone unnoticed by me that both sides of the political debate in the US have resorted to attacking the mental acuity of the opposing candidate as part of their rhetoric. And to be honest, I find that distasteful on all sides.

However, given the obvious, sustained and highly derogatory remarks made consistently by Mr Trump over a period of years, it seems more than a little rich to suddenly squawk at receiving a little of the same treatment back.

Mr Trump would have me believe that Mr Biden is both too incompetent to tie his own shoes, and simultaneously capable of masterminding an incredible plot to subvert Western democracy. Both can’t be true, and my suspicion at present is that neither is true.

Hot air by name, hot air by nature.

 

[Withdean South Stand]

Mr Trump would have me believe that Mr Biden is both too incompetent to tie his own shoes, and simultaneously capable of masterminding an incredible plot to subvert Western democracy. Both can’t be true, and my suspicion at present is that neither is true.

This is exactly the point. The lunatic right wing are being asked to believe a complete contradiction and to do so without questioning it. And without wondering how on earth Trump is thumping on about electrocution or shark attacks. It's a ridiculous narrative.