Thatcher to be given a state funeral

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Do you think that central government should stop paying for things which cant pay their own way then?

If they did our society would become more americanised which is a likely scenario with the return of a Tory Government. Workfare would replace many benefits , a 2 tier NHS system as private health insurance would promote queue jumping, allowing NHS trusts to scrap for extra revenues. The minimum wage wouldn't be uprated on an annual basis etc etc.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Thanks for the congrats.

Don't think we'll agree on the issues here though.

No problemo. I hope everything goes well for you.

We will not, that we agree on! I think it is estimated that the average cost of a child, up to 21, is £180,000. There are many families that mass produce children and contribute very little to society. I don't see why the British tax payer should have to foot the bill for someone who is hell bent on collecting babies. It is unfair and immoral.

We also have exceedingly high rates of child poverty for a developed country, pensioners on the breadline and hospitals groaning under pressure. Not to mention a massive debt national debt that is growing by the minute.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

No problemo. I hope everything goes well for you.

We will not, that we agree on! I think it is estimated that the average cost of a child, up to 21, is £180,000. There are many families that mass produce children and contribute very little to society. I don't see why the British tax payer should have to foot the bill for someone who is hell bent on collecting babies. It is unfair and immoral.

We also have exceedingly high rates of child poverty for a developed country, pensioners on the breadline and hospitals groaning under pressure. Not to mention a massive debt national debt that is growing by the minute.

I agree with BOF, having 3 kids from 3 different fathers at the age of 19 to get a council house and everything paid for by the council should not be an acceptable career option for a Girl which it is under Labour.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I agree with BOF, having 3 kids from 3 different fathers at the age of 19 to get a council house and everything paid for by the council should not be an acceptable career option for a Girl which it is under Labour.

Surprised there's any council houses left to satisfy your puerile stereotype after Thatcher flogged them off to buy votes

They had the right idea up in Scotland. it was all 'Yeah, thanks, Maggie, cheers for that, I'll have me council house at a knock-down rate, nice one. Now f*** OFF YA BITCH, youse lot are NEVER getting ma vote '

And the Tories remain unelectable up there to this day

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I agree with BOF, having 3 kids from 3 different fathers at the age of 19 to get a council house and everything paid for by the council should not be an acceptable career option for a Girl which it is under Labour.

In Grimsby the criteria is to have 3 kids by 3 different fathers before reaching the age of 16.

 

[coventrygull]

I agree with BOF, having 3 kids from 3 different fathers at the age of 19 to get a council house and everything paid for by the council should not be an acceptable career option for a Girl which it is under Labour.

Labour follow a Thatcherite policy. There is no difference between them and the tories. Wake up and smell the cheese.

 

[1066familyman]

No problemo. I hope everything goes well for you.

We will not, that we agree on! I think it is estimated that the average cost of a child, up to 21, is £180,000. There are many families that mass produce children and contribute very little to society. I don't see why the British tax payer should have to foot the bill for someone who is hell bent on collecting babies. It is unfair and immoral.

We also have exceedingly high rates of child poverty for a developed country, pensioners on the breadline and hospitals groaning under pressure. Not to mention a massive debt national debt that is growing by the minute.

Of course we do.....that's nearly 30 years of successive Tory government for you

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Of course we do.....that's nearly 30 years of successive Tory government for you

Didn't the last proper Labour govt. oversee a prolonged period of strikes that we bringing the country to it's knees? I seem to remember reading that inflation hit levels of 25% and share prices plummeted at a greater level than the depression of the 1930s.

 

[1066familyman]

Surprised there's any council houses left to satisfy your puerile stereotype after Thatcher flogged them off to buy votes

They had the right idea up in Scotland. it was all 'Yeah, thanks, Maggie, cheers for that, I'll have me council house at a knock-down rate, nice one. Now f*** OFF YA BITCH, youse lot are NEVER getting ma vote '

And the Tories remain unelectable up there to this day

More balls up there Tom that's for sure. Think I'm right in saying that it was Scotland who kicked off the poll tax revolt having had it imposed on them a year earlier than down here ?

Don't think you'll find Scottish pensioners having to make a choice between turning up the heating or eating a square meal either.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

More balls up there Tom that's for sure. Think I'm right in saying that it was Scotland who kicked off the poll tax revolt having had it imposed on them a year earlier than down here ?

Don't think you'll find Scottish pensioners having to make a choice between turning up the heating or eating a square meal either.

You are a wise man on all counts sir

 

[1066familyman]

Didn't the last proper Labour govt. oversee a prolonged period of strikes that we bringing the country to it's knees? I seem to remember reading that inflation hit levels of 25% and share prices plummeted at a greater level than the depression of the 1930s.

I'm still mourning those plummeting share prices. To think of all those poor 1970's share holding souls suffering like that fair makes me weep so it does.

 

[1066familyman]

I am not disputing this....this is why they work well. Most countries see their rail system as part of the social infrastructure and subsidise it accordingly.

Exactimondo !

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I'm still mourning those plummeting share prices. To think of all those poor 1970's share holding souls suffering like that fair makes me weep so it does.

Contrary to popular belief, it is not just the rich that own shares. Pension funds, those who are gifted shares in redundancy and so on. If you are such a keen socialist, I am surprised you have put up with England for so long or are you quite happy to take benefits from a capitalist society, but grumble about it nonetheless?

 

[1066familyman]

Contrary to popular belief, it is not just the rich that own shares. Pension funds, those who are gifted shares in redundancy and so on. If you are such a keen socialist, I am surprised you have put up with England for so long or are you quite happy to take benefits from a capitalist society, but grumble about it nonetheless?

Ooohhhh....pension funds....shall we continue

And what gave you the impression I'm such a keen socialist anyway ? I'm a strict "wages for housewives" man

But seriously, why should I leave the country of my birth ? Blimey, if we all left our country of birth because we didn't support our government most of the worlds population would be living 'abroad' ! I have been a political prisoner here though if that makes you feel any better.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Ooohhhh....pension funds....shall we continue

And what gave you the impression I'm such a keen socialist anyway ? I'm a strict "wages for housewives" man

But seriously, why should I leave the country of my birth ? Blimey, if we all left our country of birth because we didn't support our government most of the worlds population would be living 'abroad' ! I have been a political prisoner here though if that makes you feel any better.

You shouldn't. My point was that there are people that come across as being political prisoners, when they do not know the meaning of the phrase.

The socialism was just the impression I got. Perhaps communism would be more suitable. Talking about communism, I spent 6 weeks in Cuba and seemingly they have one of the best health services in the world. Are we missing a trick?

 

[1066familyman]

You shouldn't. My point was that there are people that come across as being political prisoners, when they do not know the meaning of the phrase.

The socialism was just the impression I got. Perhaps communism would be more suitable. Talking about communism, I spent 6 weeks in Cuba and seemingly they have one of the best health services in the world. Are we missing a trick?

To be honest, the older I get the less I can be arsed about politricks. And what I meant about political prisoner was that I was one of many who walked the walk instead of just talked the talk on the poll tax and served a total of 4 months as a civil ( not criminal ) prisoner for refusal to pay it. But at least I had ALL my rent paid to my nice landlord while I was 'away'
Wouldn't do it again now though as I've mellowed and have family responsibilities to think of.

 

[coventrygull]

To be honest, the older I get the less I can be arsed about politricks. And what I meant about political prisoner was that I was one of many who walked the walk instead of just talked the talk on the poll tax and served a total of 4 months as a civil ( not criminal ) prisoner for refusal to pay it. But at least I had ALL my rent paid to my nice landlord while I was 'away'
Wouldn't do it again now though as I've mellowed and have family responsibilities to think of.

Respect

 

[clapham_gull]

This is because the industry I want to get into is very competative and I spend a lot of money either supporting myself through work placements or getting films made.

It's also generally quite badly paid.

 

[User removed 4]

I always marvel at the sheer cheek of the public utilities sell off.

It's a bit like looking after a mates house while they go away on holiday. While he's away you advertise all his prized possesions in the friday ad, without consulting him first. Better still, you use his money to pay for the advertising ( just ask Sid ). When he comes back you give him back the pittance you got for it all, minus the cost of advertising of course, and tell him, it's for the best in the long run.

Bloody genius !

i always marvel at the sheer bloody cheek of them being nationalised in the first place .

 

[User removed 4]

Look Bushy. I dont really have the time or the inclination to trawl the internet to find the exact details of a piece of legislation from almost 30 years ago.

It is fairly common knowledge that she relaxed lending criteria to, amongst other things, enable her great council house sell off. I sincerely hope you are not in the financial services. If you are then may I suggest your resign immediately as your lack of knowledge is shocking and you are therefore part of the current problem. If you are not then go and find it yourself. You will find plenty of reference to it....but as for the exact mechanism or sections numbers I cannot tell you....or be arsed to look for it.

i do work in financial services but not in the credit/lending field so why would i want to resign ? and even if i did work in that field are you seriously suggesting that people are aware of every piece of legislation for the past 30 years ?