As in do not judge others for the sin they have committed. Like you and others are doing with gus and blatter.
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As in do not judge others for the sin they have committed. Like you and others are doing with gus and blatter.
Barnham Seagull
Yapton Actually
You realy think that players are not told what is and isnt exceptable in this country?
Do you think they do not notice lets kick racism out campaigns?
Barnham Seagull
Yapton Actually
Have to agree with you.
Simple question, did Ronnie Irani ever play football - so who he is he to question GP?
GP has a strong case and ignornant drunken/hungover talksport presenters should know better - but of course they don't - all they care about are their boring ads which take up at least 1/2 of their broadcasting time and their 'interesting' repetitive loop is no more than 15 minutes.
Who the heck are interestested in bloody vans and trade things ?
GP has a strong case and ignornant drunken/hungover talksport presenters should know better - but of course they don't - all they care about are their boring ads which take up at least 1/2 of their broadcasting time and their 'interesting' repetitive loop is no more than 15 minutes.
Who the heck are interestested in bloody vans and trade things ?
glasfryn
cleaning up cat sick
spot on
Captain Sensible
Well-known member
I think Poyet was right in the fact that it seems all over the world, it is more or less accepted that whatever gets said on the pitch, stays there. I don't remember everyone kicking off when Zidane was the victim of racist comments from the Italians in the world cup final. Poyet is pointing out that Evra is saying "I'm telling" to the FA when normally these things go on. I love the way Poyet batted away that idiot Irani's attempt to pull him into commenting on racist abuse from Spanish fans. He was talking about players and on the pitch only! Over time what is acceptable on the pitch might change too. However Poyet is right, it is just in this country that we make a huge hoo haa about this and in other countries, it's no biggie.
tedebear
Legal Alien
No I haven't heard one person (including Gus) saying that at all.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
One of the things I most admire about Gus is that he has the courage of his convictions. He's also shown again how loyal he is. I'd rather have someone like that as a manager than some PR-obsessed egg-shell treading nobody. He's made two very strong points; he knows Suarez isn't racist and that in a multinational globalised world things get lost in translation. Of course he's not going to please everyone with his views, but at least he's got people thinking and talking about this issue in a more intelectual way rather than a simplistic one. Racism is a very complex and subjective subject; you can say things that someone else may deem as being racist without being a racist, that is fact, I've done it myself. The context is important; footballers, both professionals and amateurs, abuse each other verbally every game in one way or another.
The analogy Gus made with physical abuse on the pitch is also valid; I had my leg smashed in a friendly in a premeditated vicious tackle, my brother had his nose broken similarly. We didn't think for a moment about going to the police about it. If it had happened on the street then I'm sure it would have been considered.
So to those just trotting out the same old 'yes but it's wrong' try thinking a bit more about what how you define right and wrong 'cos it 'aint that black and white (excuse the pun). All this proves once again is just how much many people love a good witch hunt.
The analogy Gus made with physical abuse on the pitch is also valid; I had my leg smashed in a friendly in a premeditated vicious tackle, my brother had his nose broken similarly. We didn't think for a moment about going to the police about it. If it had happened on the street then I'm sure it would have been considered.
So to those just trotting out the same old 'yes but it's wrong' try thinking a bit more about what how you define right and wrong 'cos it 'aint that black and white (excuse the pun). All this proves once again is just how much many people love a good witch hunt.
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Falkor
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- Jun 3, 2011
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So are you telling me calling one person a racist comment is not racist as that is what Gus said.
People calling evra a cry baby for reporting what he believed to be racist abuse. But he should accept it as its on a football pitch and get on with it.
tedebear
Legal Alien
Read Hungry Joe's post just above - explains it very well. Get down off your high horse and see it from abother perspective and it may make your own perspective a little less OTT.
Falkor
Banned
- Jun 3, 2011
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High horse lol what makes me laugh imagine if some one at palace said these comments all hell would be breaking lose. There seems to be some protective bubble around Gus on here that you can't criticise him for anything and his always right.
If ya feel the need to racially abuse someone in the heat of the moment then there is something wrong with you on a football pitch or not.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Serious question, how old are you?
Falkor
Banned
- Jun 3, 2011
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What does that matter.
Im old enough to have my own place and have my own opinions thanks.
Return of the Rev
Well-known member
You have to wonder about the judgement of the man for coming out with the views regardless if he's right or wrong.
Looks like he may not be god after all
Looks like he may not be god after all
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Calm down lad, I didn't say you weren't. You seem quite young so I'll assume you are and take that into account. Life will teach you that things aren't as simple as they seem to you right now, that's all.
R. Slicker
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- Jan 1, 2009
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So if that is really your view and you're not just generally disagreeing with people to keep the post count up.
What do you think should happen to Gus? The sack? prosecution?
By the way, congratulations on using lose instead of loose. I'd only ever seen it the other way round before.