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Surprise surprise... Daily Mail makes up Amanda Knox GUILTY story, including quotes







Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
Is that real, or a wind-up?
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Journalists are such wankers eh
 


eastlondonseagull

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Jan 15, 2004
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Acker79

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If superman returns taught me anything, it's that sometimes newspapers prepare two versions of a story so that as soon as they know which way to go, the story is ready.

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mcshane in the 79th

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Nov 4, 2005
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If superman returns taught me anything, it's that sometimes newspapers prepare two versions of a story so that as soon as they know which way to go, the story is ready.

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They don't make up quotes and supposed actions from the families involved though!
 






Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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If superman returns taught me anything, it's that sometimes newspapers prepare two versions of a story so that as soon as they know which way to go, the story is ready.
We know that, but it's the completely made up 'facts' that are shocking:
'She sank into her chair sobbing uncontrollably while her family and friends hugged each other in tears'
'her sister Stephanie and brother Lyle... remained expressionless, stairing straight ahead, glancing over just once at the distraught Knox family'
'Prosecutors... said that 'justic has been done' '
'Knox and Sollecito... said they would take the case to the third and final level of appeal'

I don't have faith in papers, but wow.
 


shaolinpunk

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Nov 28, 2005
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The quotes in the article were presumably there as placeholders ready for actual quotes that fit that context.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Knox was innocent. I have absolutely no doubt about that.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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The quotes in the article were presumably there as placeholders ready for actual quotes that fit that context.
Wouldn't you just write:
Prosecutors said 'insert quote here'
Insert defendant reation here.
Insert family reasction here.

Make no mistake, if she had been found guilty, they'd have run that story as it is. After all, if she had been found guilty she'd have more to worry about than complaining about the Daily Mail that wasn't accurate with it's story. It's not like here sister and brother are going to complaining saying 'we didn't only glance over once, we were looking at our sister lots'.
Why is journalism like this allowed?
 






keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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The quotes in the article were presumably there as placeholders ready for actual quotes that fit that context.

From my (limited) experience and understanding you would actually have "PLACEHOLDER QUOTE" or stuff like that so it would be impossible for the sub to miss it. It would be a waste of time to make-up quotes and reactions. Unless of course you were a paper who didn't much care about facts and more about stories
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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That is a really bad one. Could be some more easy money for Foxy Knoxy, I'm sure she's going to get some from Italy already.

I'm not surprised they had to do two versions at all, the decision was very close to deadlines last night so that is what you have to do. I have been at sporting events and had to do the same, two different winner pieces, close to deadline because there wasn't time to write the whole thing once it finished. Luckily I've never sent the wrong one in error, but I suppose I could have.

They have certainly cut some corners with the reactions. All of what they said probably would have happened, so I'm not as appalled as some, but you can't muck around with a story like this. Admittedly this is a piece that should never have seen the light of day, but now it's been rumbled it looks terrible.

Feel a bit sorry for the bylined journo himself (for the most part just doing his job, I'm sure he was ordered to 'add some colour'), this should never have gone online and public, fault is with online and production staff.
 


Triggaaar

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I'm not surprised they had to do two versions at all, the decision was very close to deadlines last night so that is what you have to do. I have been at sporting events and had to do the same, two different winner pieces, close to deadline because there wasn't time to write the whole thing once it finished. Luckily I've never sent the wrong one in error, but I suppose I could have.

They have certainly cut some corners with the reactions. All of what they said probably would have happened, so I'm not as appalled as some, but you can't muck around with a story like this. Admittedly this is a piece that should never have seen the light of day, but now it's been rumbled it looks terrible.
I'm disappointed by your reaction because, assuming your a typical journo (no worse than others), this suggests that these stories are regularly entire fiction. I know you're saying that you shouldn't much around with a story like this, but why is it ok to muck around with all the others? People read papers to get an insider look on the reaction of people, and the way the family is said to have reacted tells the story - a completely 100% made up one in this, and by the sound of it, most cases.

In this case, with the deadline approaching, there's tons to write about that could have gone in regardless of the verdict - all the facts of the case, trial etc. No problem with writing 2 headlines, one of which would have been correct.
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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I'm disappointed by your reaction because, assuming your a typical journo (no worse than others), this suggests that these stories are regularly entire fiction. I know you're saying that you shouldn't much around with a story like this, but why is it ok to muck around with all the others? People read papers to get an insider look on the reaction of people, and the way the family is said to have reacted tells the story - a completely 100% made up one in this, and by the sound of it, most cases.

In this case, with the deadline approaching, there's tons to write about that could have gone in regardless of the verdict - all the facts of the case, trial etc. No problem with writing 2 headlines, one of which would have been correct.

Not quite sure where you get the 'it's all fiction' idea from. I didn't say that. So it's, err, fiction on your part?

The whole premise of this thread was 'What a surprise, look what the Mail have done'. What they have done is very bad, in my view less so the human error of putting the wrong story up (although that is going to cost them a lot of money, this story is running in Seattle) but the fabrication of reaction. The journalists shouldn't have done it. Other papers wouldn't even have been tempted, but the Mail is run to a different agenda and likes to have all that human reaction stuff. That's why they have done it, I'm guessing. I'm not excusing it, I'm just telling you, with some insight, how that paper works.
 






TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
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It's half understandable (but lazy) to write the bulk of an article in preparation of a story. You can even just about understand them putting in fake quotes and later replacing them.... But you just know that they would have run exactly what was already there if the verdict was guilty.

And to actually publish it is a bloody joke.
 


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