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Sullivan
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turienzo's lovechild
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- Oct 25, 2003
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i thought that kuipers' kicking had got good enough for it not to REALLY be used as one of his 'bad points'
Terminator1
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- Oct 4, 2008
- 152
Well done to Algie for his comments. If you start off a debate on NSC put some thought behind it first. Don't compare our goalkeepers, they are different. Kuipers is great at this level and his kicking has really improved and shot stopping is championship level.
Sullivan has been brilliant in his two games. I really hope he continues in the same vein. I would love him to compete with Kuipers in the next few years, meaning we do not have to look for another keeper.
I really like his physical presence and the way he continues to cajol and shout at his defence, like Kuipers does. Now I'm starting to compare. I'll stop now, keep going Sullivan, you've kept your place in the team.
Sullivan has been brilliant in his two games. I really hope he continues in the same vein. I would love him to compete with Kuipers in the next few years, meaning we do not have to look for another keeper.
I really like his physical presence and the way he continues to cajol and shout at his defence, like Kuipers does. Now I'm starting to compare. I'll stop now, keep going Sullivan, you've kept your place in the team.
Daddies_Sauce
Falmer WSL, not a JCL
- Jun 27, 2008
- 869
It’s true that Sullivan has not been really tested in the 2 games in which he has played, and he has not been a fault for any of the 3 goals conceded during these games.
However, his kicking, vision and management of the defenders is far better that Kuiper’s. There are quite a few on here you rightly support Kuiper’s, and see Sullivan’s age and inexperience as weaknesses. Sullivan will not get experience unless he plays. Sending him out on loan to some outback to get experience is not the answer, indeed it may impact on his confidence, he needs experience in this division and/or above.
To those who sight Sullivan’s age and point to the fact that goalkeepers get better with age, I suggest that they look at teams like Man City, who have 2 very good and young keepers, one of whom has been No.1 for their first team over the last season and a half. Have faith, I believe Sullivan will come good, true he will have a couple of howlers, but these will be part of his learning experience.
However, his kicking, vision and management of the defenders is far better that Kuiper’s. There are quite a few on here you rightly support Kuiper’s, and see Sullivan’s age and inexperience as weaknesses. Sullivan will not get experience unless he plays. Sending him out on loan to some outback to get experience is not the answer, indeed it may impact on his confidence, he needs experience in this division and/or above.
To those who sight Sullivan’s age and point to the fact that goalkeepers get better with age, I suggest that they look at teams like Man City, who have 2 very good and young keepers, one of whom has been No.1 for their first team over the last season and a half. Have faith, I believe Sullivan will come good, true he will have a couple of howlers, but these will be part of his learning experience.
Why do you feel the need to quote everything twice ?AJ
" and Kuipers was very encouraging towards Sullivan which is good to see"
Agreed.
Do you think he will continue to be as encoraging to Sullivan.
If he keeps his place in the team?
SICKASAGULL
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- Aug 26, 2007
- 871
Despite the top form Kuipers is showing this season people keep on commenting on his goalkicking.Keepers are required to save shots from entering our net, if the manager considers his kicking is not up to standard then he will nominate another player to take goalkicks,end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!
T1
My point.
Is that it is good for any team to have players competing for there place.
Not so good for the players when they are "one on one" for that place.
As Algie has said, Kuipers is sound.
How many other players would have done what he did today and encourage his replacement. Top Man.
wehatepalace
"Why do you feel the need to quote everything twice ?"
Maybe its because i am not such a clever cu@t as you are?
dougdeep
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I'm just glad we have two capable keepers now.
No need for that mate ! I was just asking a question !
Silent Bob
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- Dec 6, 2004
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From goal kicks and such he's fine, not exactly accurate, but it stays on the pitch. When it comes back to him he can still be a little dodgy, especially with a striker on him, and the old shovel foot can make an appearance. Sullivan's kicking certainly looks a lot better than Kuipers'. He has also dealt comfortably with crosses. He's yet to be tested as a shot stopper really. He's hardly made a save in two games, hasn't been at fault for any goal though.
He certainly looks the part though, he's bulked up and he is not quiet. At the very least he's shown he's a good backup keeper.
Schrödinger's Toad
Nie dla Idiotów
- Jan 21, 2004
- 11,957
In what way are those the "facts"?
I've only seen Clayton Ince this year who struggles with his kicking as much as Kuipers. As said earlier, a keeper who can kick accurately brings another element to our game.
turienzo's lovechild
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- Oct 25, 2003
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yep, and at hartlepool their keeper had exactly the same problems
wehatepalace
"No need for that mate ! I was just asking a question"
OK.
But dont try to make a cu@t of me on this board.
eastlondonseagull
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An excellent keeper 
Much better at kicking than Kipper.
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Much better at kicking than Kipper..
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,721
I'd say it was adequate for a goalkeeper. When you see Sullivan quite literally dropping balls on the heads of our attackers, you know what we've been missing. Kuipers for all his amazing qualities has never been able to do that.
I'm sorry to say - but whenever we have another goalkeeper in the team whose distribution is better we seem to play differently. I'm not necessarily saying better, but there are patterns of play that start from the keeper that just don't exist when Kuipers plays. You then quite clearly realise that his distribution although improved, has never been up to much.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Have made a point of applauding him from the touchline for both the last two games and giving him the 
Still understudy to FDM IMHO, but at least we now know we have a plausible understudy, and he's probably here for a few years yet. Total respect to the boy 
Still understudy to FDM IMHO, but at least we now know we have a plausible understudy, and he's probably here for a few years yet. Total respect to the boy