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Suggestions for two [realistic] loan players?



Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
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Canterbury
to be honest though i dont think we need loan signigs i dont see the point in having a player for three months and then get another for three months etc. we need to get behind the team peoples expectations are too big, the honeymoons over and now its reality, we're in a tough league with a team whose just come up from league one, we're fifth in the league cant ask for anymore:amex:

You are right - if it could be guaranteed that we continue the season with our current average number of points per game. But what if we continue with the average points per game we've achieved from the last four matches? Relegation!

In my view, it is right that the players who get you promoted should have the chance to prove themsleves in the higher division, but it is inevitable that some will not be up to it. Added to rhat, we lost two players - Murray and Bennett - who were up to it. Did we bring in others to fully replace them?

CMS was a great buy but a totally different style of player to Murray so you can't say he is a direct replacement. It is such a shame they are not playing together because they would have complemented each other perfectly! So far, I can't see that anyone has adequately replaced Bennett.

I don't agree that we don't need loan players. If the cost of their wages can be justified and afforded (and only the Board would know that) then anyone who improves the team must surely be right. If some players are looking a bit outclassed in this division how long do you wait to see if they can improve? Some might, but others will have a limit to their abilities and simply won't be able to. There is a limit to loyalty and sentimentality!

If Gus thinks we need better quality players, either on loan, or bought in the January transfer window, then we do!
 
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trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
10,868
Hove
Sam Vokes is a lad who fits the target man mould. On the fringes of the Wolves team but hasn't had much regular football and on the face of it, needs to get his career going again. The trouble is he'd surely take time to get up to speed.. which is the problem with most loan players.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
I just looked at goal.com and noticed that their list of premier/la Liga players out of contract at the end of last season includes Hilario at Chelsea and Dudek at Real Madrid. I assume both have signed new contracts but would be interesting if not. Still cant find the extensive list of players in the uk looking for clubs, I know its there because I have seen it in the past but cant find it now. It lists every pro player in UK looking for a club.
 
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fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
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Gomez???? Gus has contacts and he is now 3rd choice at spurs and wants to leave

Gomez is 3rd choice for a reason. Bit embarrasing when an old man like Friedel is better than you.
 




Behind Enemy Lines

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Jul 18, 2003
4,871
London
My shopping list, now and during the window, would include:
GK: Proper competition for Ankergen.
Now Tarricco has retired, we need a quick full-back who can get up and down and deliver a set piece/cross.
An "Andrew Crofts" box-to-box type in midfield,
A tall, quick, powerful striker.
 




pornomagboy

wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
May 16, 2006
6,082
peacehaven
My shopping list, now and during the window, would include:
GK: Proper competition for Ankergen.
Now Tarricco has retired, we need a quick full-back who can get up and down and deliver a set piece/cross.
An "Andrew Crofts" box-to-box type in midfield,
A tall, quick, powerful striker.

what this man said
 




HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010
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Ryan Bertrand would have been my number 1 target for couple of years. Been amazing.

Lukaku is very unrealistic but wow if happened.

More realistic than him, a Keeper is the only other position to upgrade and not sure a loan is way forward there. Suppose only way to know if a youngster is good enough to sign permanently if not making the Prem side is to have them come in and train plus play odd game but cause more disruption than any other position I think.
 


Bridgejunky

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Oct 3, 2011
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Wayne Bridge
Josh McEachran
Lakuka

I know its 3 but i think we need 3. 1 Big Striker, Creative midfielder and a decent full back
Hello everyone,

Chelsea fan here. I'd like to comment on TerryBerry's post but first let me say why I visit your forum from time to time: -

I've developed a big interest in Albion; primarilly because of Gus but also because of Liam Bridcut who I first saw in a youth team game at The Bridge four years ago. He impressed so much during that game that I made a point of shaking his hand and congratulating him afterwards. I felt that he had a realistic chance of making it so was disapointed when he either did not, or was not allowed to, make progress at Chelsea. I'm encouraged that most of you seem to be happy with his displays for you.

As for the loan targets, am I right in thinking that TB meant our recent signing Romelu Lukaku? If so then that will not be a posibility because he has already played for two clubs during this season, Anderlect and ourselves. FIFA rules prohibit players making a second transfer if that would invole his appearing for more than two clubs during a season. As for McEachran, a loan is possible but highly unlikely I think.

Like many Chelsea fans, I'm slightly disappointed that Josh has not played more minutes so far this term. That said, AVB has been very sure-footed in his decisions which means that we are more than prepared to accept his judgement and bide our time to see Josh come through. Despite Josh's appearences being limited I nevertheless don't see AVB sanctioning a loan because our boss has repeatedly said that he considers us to be short of numbers in midfield.

Even if a loan were considered, I'm guessing that Chelsea would prefer to find Josh a Premier League club who could offer him first team experience. There have already been offers from a number of such clubs so that kind of loan should be available if Chelsea wanted it. Bottom line, I don't think Josh is going on loan and if he does it is not likely to be with Albion sadly. I say sadly because personally, I think a spell on the south coast would be great for him.

Still hoping to see BHA in the running for promotion.

Take care.
 
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terryberry1

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Jul 9, 2011
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Patcham
Hello everyone,

Chelsea fan here. I'd like to comment on TerryBerry's post but first let me say why I visit your forum from time to time: -

I've developed a big interest in Albion; primarilly because of Gus but also because of Liam Bridcut who I first saw in a youth team game at The Bridge four years ago. He impressed so much during that game that I made a point of shaking his hand and congratulating him afterwards. I felt that he had a realistic chance of making it so was disapointed when he either did not, or was not allowed to, make progress at Chelsea. I'm encouraged that most of you seem to be happy with his displays for you.

As for the loan targets, am I right in thinking that TB meant our recent signing Romelu Lukaku? If so then that will not be a posibility because he has already played for two clubs during this season, Anderlect and ourselves, so FIFA rules prohibit him joining a third. As for McEachran, it's possible but highly unlikely I think.

Like many Chelsea fans, I'm slightly disappointed that Josh has not played more minutes so far this term. That said, AVB has been very sure-footed in his decisions which means that we are more than prepared to accept his judgement and bide our time to see Josh come through. While AVB is limiting Josh's appearences I nevertheless don't see him sanctioning a loan because our boss has repeatedly said that he considers us to be short of numbers in midfield.

Even if a loan were considered, I'm guessing that Chelsea would prefer Josh to go out to a Premier League club who could offer him first team experience and there have already been offers from a number of such clubs. Bottom line, I don't think Josh is going on loan and if he does it is not likely to be with Albion sadly. I say sadly because personally I think it'd be great for him.

Still hoping to see BHA in the running for promotion.

Take care.

Hello mate, I think you will find Romelu Lukaku is available for loan outside the premier league. I know Stoke tried getting him on loan but were refused as he was not allowed to play in Premier League. Pretty sure he can play in The Championship although I may be wrong.
 




bring_zamora_home

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Mar 16, 2011
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Gomez is 3rd choice for a reason. Bit embarrasing when an old man like Friedel is better than you.



He may be 3rd choice for a reason but still a lot better then what we have he makes the odd mistake but when on song last year he was really good much rather have him as ankers has been looking dodgy in most games don't get me wrong he pulls off some good saves but then looks bad at some of the easy things some of the goals in the last few weeks you can't blame him directly for but you could say a better keeper would save some of them
 








fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
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He may be 3rd choice for a reason but still a lot better then what we have he makes the odd mistake but when on song last year he was really good much rather have him as ankers has been looking dodgy in most games don't get me wrong he pulls off some good saves but then looks bad at some of the easy things some of the goals in the last few weeks you can't blame him directly for but you could say a better keeper would save some of them

Couldn't agree more on your assessment of Ankergren just not convinced Gomez would be the answer.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
Not sure that Gus is looking for a keeper but if he was could Arsenal recall Almunia and then send him to us on a loan with a view to a purchase in JANUARY. I wouldnt however consider him to be better than Rob Green.
 


terryberry1

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Jul 9, 2011
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Patcham
Not sure that Gus is looking for a keeper but if he was could Arsenal recall Almunia and then send him to us on a loan with a view to a purchase in JANUARY. I wouldnt however consider him to be better than Rob Green.

no that would not be possible
 


bring_zamora_home

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Mar 16, 2011
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Couldn't agree more on your assessment of Ankergren just not convinced Gomez would be the answer.

I agree he may not be the best answer but a good one till January or even a season loan why we look for a full time keeper I also feel they need to be mid 20s rather then a old pro coming to end of career like we have had in past
 




Bridgejunky

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Oct 3, 2011
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Hello mate, I think you will find Romelu Lukaku is available for loan outside the premier league. I know Stoke tried getting him on loan but were refused as he was not allowed to play in Premier League. Pretty sure he can play in The Championship although I may be wrong.

Ah, although I'm pretty sure that I'm right it could be worth Gus checking this out then. If Lukaku is able to move outside the Premier League then, with Chelsea having made it clear that they are happy for him to get some games, it could be time for Gus to give his old mate Bobby Di Matteo a call!

Like I say though, still think it's a blanket FIFA regulation not a 'local' Premier League one.

Update: Just checked, it is a FIFA regulation so Lukaku is not an option. Tried to add a link but apparently my post count needs to reach 25 before that's allowed.
 
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