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Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,681
at home
Captain Sensible said:
Or 30 million could build a hospital in Sussex and no operations would be cancelled. If one of those hospital cancellations causes something that is then life threatening and it was someone you knew, then you might think differently when millions are being sent abroad. Agree with Harty on this. Poor pakistan, but once we have our own society modernised and cleaned up, then start sending millions out to the less fortunate.

you wouldn't get a hospital for £30 million!

The on-costs alone would be that before you would have built it

I dont think you are a racist Harty.

For once I agree with Miss DTG
 




Harty

New member
Jul 7, 2003
1,759
Sussex
I've always stayed away from non Albion/football threads on NSC but this 'lady' really got my goat although I then wondered if she might have had a point.
Thank you all for your opinions.
 


Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,681
at home
harty

any chance of coming to see you in the press box after a game when WARD is there and I can insert my Derby programme up his fat hairy arsenal Arse?

regards
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
dave the gaffer said:
harty

any chance of coming to see you in the press box after a game when WARD is there and I can insert my Derby programme up his fat hairy arsenal Arse?

regards

Wow Dave, that was positively Ernestesque !
 






E

enigma

Guest
I dont think you're racist.

In a way, you should look after your own first. But at the end of the day the people in Pakistan are human beings first and foremost and if their situation is more urgent then i would rather give money to them.
 




binky

Active member
Aug 9, 2005
632
Hove
Dandyman said:
:clap:

Alternatively work out the money spend on the invasion and occupation of Iraq, the amount Public Schools avoid paying in tax by being classed as "Charities", the amount that would be raised by taxing income over 100K at at least 50%, etc. etc

Um. State schools don't pay any tax. Why should public schools?

Just wonderin'.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
binky said:
Um. State schools don't pay any tax. Why should public schools?

Just wonderin'.

Because their pupils have rich parents I guess. Fair comment binky.
 


nobody's dupe

Old Fart
Feb 12, 2004
1,133
I'm behind you!
Mr Burns said:
If he was heartless, what would he use for his surname?:ohmy:

If the h(e)art were to be taken out of his surname it would sum up his life really.

You do stoop low sometimes Ian. So you've taken a bit of stick on NSC recently and you've gone for the popular myth to try and carry some favour. That's despicable.

You know full well that the monies for World Aid and for the National Health Service come from entirely different budgets and are not related at all. I'm beginning to think that your attempt to be elected when you were a Liberal candidate was just a bit of spin.
 


Governmental allocations of funds don't really beg comparison in my opinion. There are so many comparisons one can make at any given time, and every one would upset someone else in turn - I might (personally) ask why the public 'subjects' might have to wait for anything off the social services because of funds while simultaneously paying out to maintain a VERY RICH royal family of umpteen 'figureheads' (lords/ladys/earls/duchesses/princes-ses/queen/etc) who get homes, food, cars, yachts, clothes, et al endlessly at the expense of the British taxpayer.

I'm certain there will be those who claim we won wars, are great, attract tourism, had an empire, or only exist because of monarchy. It's archaic and we should get rid of them no matter how 'good lucking and newsworthy' the next wave of them appear.

I certainly do not begrudge Britain sending aid allocations charitably, as long as the right people receive the aid and the 'administration' of aid does not suck a percentage off the top (like most charitable concerns and religious groups manage to do!)
 




looney

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Jul 7, 2003
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monies for World Aid and for the National Health Service come from entirely different budgets and are not related at all.

and...............

Governmental allocations of funds don't really beg comparison in my opinion.

Its all our money they took in tax, thats how its related. And anyone can say how they wish to see it spent.
 


nobody's dupe said:
If the h(e)art were to be taken out of his surname it would sum up his life really.

You do stoop low sometimes Ian. So you've taken a bit of stick on NSC recently and you've gone for the popular myth to try and carry some favour. That's despicable.

You know full well that the monies for World Aid and for the National Health Service come from entirely different budgets and are not related at all. I'm beginning to think that your attempt to be elected when you were a Liberal candidate was just a bit of spin.

Fraid I agree with this.

You are not a racist Harty for raising these questions but it's pathetic posing the question as a choice between much-needed funding for the NHS and some money being give to the most desperate people on earth :nono:

We now full well there are millions of choices been made on public spending - how about the billions we just spent on a useless war in Iraq that has turned that country into a playground for terrorists?

Or how about, god forbid, we reverse Thatcher and Blair's selfish tax cuts and spend more money on both the NHS and disaster relief for the dying?

You could have posed the questions that way, but the way you did Harty just turned this thread into a carnival for NSC's foremost xenophobic bigots. Piss-poor.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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it never ceases does it? people who question under funding of nhs, the question of public school charitable status and the question of over sea aid.
firstly the nhs is so badly run budget wise it makes british leyland look like the world class of economics, with a proactive workforce to boot. if all the kids in private schools suddenly had to go to state schools the system would melt down and finally if the 3rd world actually spent its money on development then its people would not be starving, homeless etc.

harty you're not racist people just need to get real and stop sprouting old socialist ideals which died with the old duffle coated foot
 






clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,721
Charlies Shinpad said:
CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME!! FULL STOP!!!

Yes but money for the NHS isn't "charity"

NHS funding will have nothing to with the amount of money the government decide to send in aid.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,010
ben andrews' girlfriend said:
Hear hear. In pakistan, they are paying for people to get tents so that they can LIVE. In worthing, its more likely that the operations that are being cancelled are for minor operations. Put something in some bloody perspective for once.

If you want someting to moan about (which isnt unusual for you judging by your constant whinging on your phone in) how about complain about the £30 MILLION going towards a new nuclear "defence system" that our government is paying for.

Stop being so heartless.

You'd be thinking very differently if you were in Pakistan right now.

I love you, Laura.

:angel:
 


Depends on the arguments you used. You do, of course, only provide an overview of the argument and it all seems very reasonable to me. However, I have heard enough people starting with such arguments very quickly descend into racist justifications for their positions. For all we know, your accuser was reacting to the detail of your argument, not the overall view you present here (which isn't racist).
 




Lush

Mods' Pet
Captain Sensible said:
Or 30 million could build a hospital in Sussex and no operations would be cancelled. If one of those hospital cancellations causes something that is then life threatening and it was someone you knew, then you might think differently when millions are being sent abroad. Agree with Harty on this. Poor pakistan, but once we have our own society modernised and cleaned up, then start sending millions out to the less fortunate.

Trouble is, when do you decide that your society is "modernised and cleaned" up enough? Supposedly there are hundreds of thousands of kids living in poverty in the UK today, but very few are living in the kind of "Angela's Ashes" conditions that were described as "poverty" a 100 years ago.

These days, things like televisions, heating, even operations for ingrowing toenails and varicose veins are seen as neccessities.

Whereas in Pakistan TODAY, there are people with nothing to eat and nowhere to sleep.
 


zefarelly

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NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,489
Sussex, by the sea
Redhead said:
No. makes you a british citizen concerned with the state of your country and our public spending.

which in tree hugging beardy circles makes you a racist

whats the country coming to . . . :rolleyes:
 


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