Easy 10 said:
If you find a pub too smokey then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Exactly, there's loads of pubs that aren't smoky or have smoking areas and stuff. Piss off there if you don't like the smoke.
Easy 10 said:
If you find a pub too smokey then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
As a non-smoker I ...... totally agree. A blanket ban on smoking in public places is wrong and makes a mockery of any govermeent claptrap about choice, liberty and personal responsibility. By all means have non-smoking bars but these should be VOLUNTARY not compulsory. I too hate coming home smelling like an ashtray but rather that than this attempt to turn Britain into a glorified health farm.ChapmansThe Saviour said:Exactly, there's loads of pubs that aren't smoky or have smoking areas and stuff. Piss off there if you don't like the smoke.
MYOB said:s/most/all
ALL pubs have covered, heated areas. Either outside or on the root (!)
Some nightclubs don't, but a fair few do.
Curious Orange said:Exhaust fumes aren't harmful
Easy 10 said:If you find a pub too smokey then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
So do something else for a living.Tom Hark said:Unless of course you happen to work in a pub. In which case you stand a higher-than-otherwise chance of dying from some deadly shit put into yer lungs by somebody you barely even know
Easy 10 said:So do something else for a living.
Its all about C-H-O-I-C-E
Easy 10 said:
I'm speaking as a non-smoker here. Banning smoking in pubs would be a DISASTER for many, many locals. Tell people they're not allowed to smoke in a bar and they just won't bother going, and I don't blame them. For christs sake, what would you prefer...a lively bar full of atmosphere, abeit with some smoke...or a next-to-empty bar populated by nothing more than a handful of pasty-looking vegan nazi's who are too precious to put up with some other people daring to have a cigarette in their presence ?
If its too smokey then go somewhere else. But at least leave people the choice, before killing off pubs as we know them.
Easy 10 said:
If its too smokey then go somewhere else. But at least leave people the choice, before killing off pubs as we know them.
Its not a non-argument at all. If you don't want to work in a smokey atmosphere, then here's the plan. DON'T GET A JOB IN A BAR.Rangdo said:Bit of a non-argument as far as jobs go. Not everyone has the CHOICE of leaving a job and walking straight into another for whatever reason. I could understand using that argument about the punters.
People go out to pubs to relax and have a good time. I am lucky enough to have a fairly wide circle of friends, and we often go out in a group. 2 of those friends are smokers, and they will smoke, in our presence, throughout the evening. It has absolutely NO BEARING on my enjoyment of the evening. They are not puffing it in my face, or anyone elses, and none of us even notice it. Obviously there are other people around smoking as well, and if you were determined to make an issue of it, then no doubt you could.
Non-smokers have had to put up with smokers for so long, now it's the smokers turn to be shat on for a while until we reach a compromise (long after I'm gone hopefully).
If you want to use the choice argument then this would be a fairer summation. People have the choice whether to smoke or not in a pub. I don't have the choice whether or not to breathe in second-hand smoke. And before you say choose to go somewhere else, theres no reason I should be forced to choose an alternative venue because of other peoples ant-scial behaviour.