[Albion] Should we have had a penalty?

[Triggaaar]

Should we have had a penalty?

Yes.

Unfortunately, Montoya isn't used to appealing for them. Still, VAR should have given it.

 

[schmunk]

My wife complains it always takes too long

That's odd, she never does to me...?

 

[blue-shifted]

That's odd, she never does to me...?

I was talking about VAR

 

[pb21]

Absolutely.

 

[hampshirebrightonboy]

You're right in all your criticisms. But how does the ref not give it. His view is near enough the camera angle which shows that it's a nailed on pen.

Appalling officiating from all concerned.

Yeah but it's Pawson we are talking about here

 

[Triggaaar]

Bit unlike [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] not to include a poll.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Having seen it a few times from different angles I’m not convinced it was a foul. So no.

 

[Bodian]

Also - if VAR is there, why wasn't Zaha punished for trying to kick Bissouma (?) when he was minorly fouled after around 10 minutes? Did VAR even look at it - as it was clear to me watching that it happened, so surely they should have reviewed it? If Tomer got a retrospective ban for alleged 'stamping', then will Zaha's petulance be looked out now? No- probably not.

 

[A1X]

Carragher got it right on Sky for me, VAR is supposed to encourage players to not go down easily looking for it (which Montoya didn't do) because it can go back and check, so was surprised it wasn't given.

 

[Easy 10]

I just don't see the point of VAR. Its every bit as inconsistent as the officials who were making the decisions before it ever got introduced - so what are we actually gaining ?

Last nights non-penalty decision was yet another farce. You could perhaps forgive Pawson for not awarding it - he gets one look at full speed, and he has to be sure to award it. But what possible excuse does the VAR official have for not giving it ? He's looking at it from 6 angles in super slo-mo, its a cast-iron pen.

There's contact. Riedewald was nowehere NEAR the ball, and clearly clipped Montoya. The fact he managed to get a shot away as he fell is neither here nor there. The fact he didn't make much of an appeal is neither here nor there. That was a foul and a straightforward mandatory penalty decision. And yet...

I think we should either be allowed to hear the VAR and the ref discussing the incident as they pick over it, or the VAR should be made to justify his decision after the game, so we know EXACTLY what he was thinking and why he didn't believe it was a pen. Then perhaps we'd at least have a chance of learning what the fvck is going on with this. This blanket of silence is pathetic.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Carragher got it right on Sky for me, VAR is supposed to encourage players to not go down easily looking for it (which Montoya didn't do) because it can go back and check, so was surprised it wasn't given.

Yes. The way it's being used is encouraging players to exaggerate contact and at times dive.

 

[Hamilton]

Yes we should. Can only assume the official thought he was already falling. Even then, the clip would have impeded Montoya's ability to strike the ball.

I actually think that had he appealed it would have affected the decision.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

This is the main issue with VAR for me , is the inconsistency.

Irrespective of who you support, looking at that decision that went against us...how I have no idea as he was clipped as he was trying to get a shot off....to the one that Collony ( sp? ) was given when Keane stood on him not even knowing he was there in our favour...it is totally subjective , even with technology. Therefore leave it to the ref on the field.

As for this “ his left nipple was in front of the defenders right bollock” type decisions is just rediculous

Time to bin VAR and get back to just goal line technology and leave the linos to do their jobs...rightly or wrongly...

 

[Albion Prem]

Is there any reason why it wouldn’t be a penalty? It just shows how ridiculous VAR is. The ref would have given it if he’d seen a replay.

You can argue against the ref but whatever VAR decides thats it, we could well have had a couple of penaltys awarded against us for extreme gripping and shirt pulling in the area, you win some etc,etc

 

[blue-shifted]

Oh and Benteke elbowing Dunk.

What year were the rules changed to turn that from a red card to a yellow card offence?

 

[Munkfish]

Yes it was, however I will deal with it as we got lucky against Everton. I know with VAR thats not the point but its done now.

 

[GOM]

Having seen it a few times from different angles I’m not convinced it was a foul. So no.

I was beginning to think I was the only one. Didn't think it was when it happened and even after replays. He tripped over the grass and was going down anyway. Wish it had been given tho'

 

[maltaseagull]

That's sadly the main takeaway from this. Honesty doesn't pay. Zaha got Propper booked by simply bundling into him after he'd lost the ball.

Can anyone explain how Zaha didn't get a card for kicking out at Bissouma?

Would have been a red if it was a World Cup game in 1998!

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I thought the VAR decision where Connolly got the penalty against Everton was ridiculous. (the league later came out and confirmed that was an error)

I thought this decision was ridiculous. (I expect this one to also be highlighted as an error)

So, now that it is not even making correct decisions, what EXACTLY can VAR fans actually point to as a benefit of it?

 

[Napper]

Oh and Benteke elbowing Dunk.

What year were the rules changed to turn that from a red card to a yellow card offence?

yeah , that one got me too. It was either an accidental elbow and nothing or it was a free kick and a red.

How the hell is that a yellow if the ref is saying its deliberate.

maybe its changed as think it was Alan Smith saying it wasnt a red card incident