Should Celtic and Rangers join an ENGLISH league?

[Guinness Boy]

OK, sad git that I am I have to admit to watching 'You're On Sky Sports' at odd times and one was this week. The big debate on there was if Celtic and Rangers should be allowed to join the Premiership.

For me it's an unqualified no. Someone on the show used the argument that it would lead to a Great Britain national team rather than 4 separate ones but I don't buy that - after all Swansea, Cardiff and Wrexham playing here hasn't lead to that. No, the reason I'm against it is simply the complication of where they would start. They could not just walk in to the Premiership for me, they would have to work their way up but even then if they started in League 2 it ould disadvantage 2 Conference teams. You could just expand the Prem to 22 teams but that is 4 extra games to fit in to an already overcrowed schedule for our top players.

All in all the logistics would be a nightmare to facilitate what is in effect special treatment for teams that already have a competition for me. But what's NSC's view?

 

[REDLAND]

I'd say no as well, it would wreak Scotlands International team as well if their 2 best teams had no national identity !!!

 

[Uncle Buck]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Enough unwashed as it is.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

(it's not an english league)

but yeah, i disagree with them joining for purely the same reasons as you, yes, it may benefit the prem in the long run, but it would disadvantage two teams, with just isn't FAIR

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Celtic would be good, but we don't need Rangers and their bigoted neanderthal following.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

No.

Or at least if they want to they need to start in the conference North and work their way up.

 

[Commander]

Only if they increased the Prem to 22 teams so noone misses out. And only for comedy value of watching them end up in the Championship. Quite fancy an awayday to Ibrox or Parkhead.

 

[Commander]

we don't need Rangers and their bigoted neanderthal following.

But those angels from Celtic would be more than welcome.

 

[Trigger]

Er, no...

 

[Uncle Buck]

Celtic would be good, but we don't need Rangers and their bigoted neanderthal following.

Celtic are just as bad when it comes to being bigoted.

 

[REDLAND]

Only if they increased the Prem to 22 teams so noone misses out. And only for comedy value of watching them end up in the Championship. Quite fancy an awayday to Ibrox or Parkhead.

They would NEVER end up in the championship so don't get to excited about your away day

 

[jonny.rainbow]

It would also potentially mean less Champions League spots for the current Prem teams so I think if it were to go to a vote it would be a resounding NO.

 

[Happy Seagull]

If they let Rangers and Celtic in, then we should ask for a place too.

 

[bhaexpress]

Sure, as long as they'll start in the Conference North. I think their grounds will pass inspection.

 

[Uncle Buck]

It would also potentially mean less Champions League spots for the current Prem teams so I think if it were to go to a vote it would be a resounding NO.

If they played in the English league they would not be allowed to take up English spots in European Competition as they are not full members of our FA, I think.

I know that Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham and Newport cannot play in the UEFA Cup in the win the Welsh Cup as they are tied up with 2 FA's and I think the same would happen with the Scottish teams.

 

[Silent Bob]

Sure, as long as they'll start in the Conference North. I think their grounds will pass inspection.

Why should they get a bye to that level?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

If they played in the English league they would not be allowed to take up English spots in European Competition as they are not full members of our FA, I think.

I know that Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham and Newport cannot play in the UEFA Cup in the win the Welsh Cup as they are tied up with 2 FA's and I think the same would happen with the Scottish teams.

So how would they qualify for the Champions League then?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Why should they get a bye to that level?

Maybe they could have a play-off match against the Unibond premier winners.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Ultimately I think YES, but there has yet to be a serious suggestion from the authorities as to how to do this in a fair manner.

The Premiership now is, essentially, a 3-horse race. Each year there seem to be fewer and fewer teams able to take points off the top clubs.

I think Celtic and Rangers would make the Premiership a more open and interesting spectacle, but it would need to be part of a bigger shake-up in British football.

 

[Uncle Buck]

So how would they qualify for the Champions League then?

If think they could only qualify in they were playing in the national league of the national association they fall under, by location, which is Scotland.