Uncle Spielberg
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Scum who dumped the carcasses of 3 dead animals in the roads and parks of Brighton have been fined £ 80 and £ 167. They faced up to £ 5000 fines and jail of 6 months.
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Scum fined £ 247
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not enough
fatbadger
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Oh, I think they've been punished enough - the stupidity of their little escapade has increased opposition to them, and converted no-one to their views. Top work, I say - I wonder if they were anti-hunt agent provocateurs?
D'Angelo Saxon
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£80 and £167? Thats got to be less money than it would have cost them to dispose of it legally!
Uncle Spielberg
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I saw a programme with the hunt sabiteurs somewhere near Horsham. I may join them. These tossers on their high horses with silly red jackets deserve a damn good kicking.
The tossers are on the front page of the Argus today, Tweddle Dum and Tweddle Dee, Dum and Dummer.
The tossers are on the front page of the Argus today, Tweddle Dum and Tweddle Dee, Dum and Dummer.
I know this is controversial but I agree with their views. I grew up in the countryside and have lived in Brighton for the last four years, so can see both sides of the argument. However, dumping dead carcasses in the city centre is a ridiculous way of making a point. All it has done is increase the opposition to them. Wankers. It's a bit like if we rioted at the labour party conference to try and get Falmer. Some people just don't think things through properly.
A joke of a sentence. Brighton Magistrates ought to be thoroughly ashamed. I'd have tied them up and beat the crap out of them!
Carcass pair fined £247
by Ali Cridland
Shock tactics: Stuart Trousdale and Jamie Butler admitted causing distress in Brighton Pro-hunt protesters who dumped rotting animal carcasses in Brighton have been fined a total of £247.
Animal rights groups have branded the punishment "astonishing".
Stuart Trousdale and Jamie Butcher made their protest during last month's Labour Party conference, less than an hour before pro-hunt supporters marched on the Brighton Centre, where Tony Blair was making a speech appealing for his party to unite.
Two calves and a cow were dumped near the fountain in Steine Gardens and a dead horse was left in Queen's Road, near Brighton station.
A placard sticking out of the horse was printed with the warning: "If you find this disgusting, you will see a lot more if they ban hunting."
At Brighton Magistrates' Court, the two men, both from the Isle of Wight, admitted a charge of disorderly behaviour on September 28, causing harassment, alarm or distress.
They faced up to six months in jail or a fine of £5,000.
But kennel huntsman Trousdale, 33, of Gatcombe, Newport, was fined £80 and Butcher, 39, a builder of Ashley Road, Ryde, was fined £167. Both were ordered to pay £70 costs.
John Rolls, director of the RSPCA's animal welfare promotion, said: "The actions of these two, who callously dumped the carcasses on the streets of Brighton, showed a complete disregard for both animals, decency and the views of 76 per cent of the public who believe hunting with dogs should be illegal.
"While we are glad Sussex Police treated this case with gravity and brought it swiftly to court, we are astonished the offence has resulted in the imposition of such a small penalty by Brighton magistrates."
Ken Bodfish, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, said: "I think it is an inadequate fine for the distress caused to many animal-lovers, particularly children. This was an outrageous act."
Brighton Pavilion MP David Lepper said he was shocked at the punishment and called for tougher laws to deal with such offensive crimes.
He said: "These people went beyond what anybody would think were civilised standards."
Animal rights campaigner Mary Frankel confronted the men as they left the court, in Edward Street.
Mrs Frankel, 64, of Benson Court, Hove, said: "People have been fined more for throwing cigarette butts on the ground."
David Packer, prosecuting, told the court witnesses were moved to tears by what they saw. The men dragged the carcasses from the back of a pick-up truck at about 11.30am in front of children playing around the fountain.
Café owner Tracey Jansen described the protest to police as "barbaric".
Charles Shelton, defending, said the men carried out their actions for political reasons and apologised for causing distress.
He added all the animals had died a natural death.
He said: "Being from the countryside they are so much more used to the sight of death. It was a mistake not to realise the effect on urban people.
"They are countrymen who, as they see it, face an assault on their way of life. They are deeply sorry about the distress caused by their actions."
Mr Shelton said Trousdale, a married father of two, would lose his job and home if the proposed ban becomes enforced and his hounds, which he loved, would be destroyed.
Trousdale is one of the masters of the Isle of Wight Hunt, which is midway through a month's suspension handed out by the Master of Foxhounds' Association following a hearing into the Brighton protest
Carcass pair fined £247
by Ali Cridland
Shock tactics: Stuart Trousdale and Jamie Butler admitted causing distress in Brighton Pro-hunt protesters who dumped rotting animal carcasses in Brighton have been fined a total of £247.
Animal rights groups have branded the punishment "astonishing".
Stuart Trousdale and Jamie Butcher made their protest during last month's Labour Party conference, less than an hour before pro-hunt supporters marched on the Brighton Centre, where Tony Blair was making a speech appealing for his party to unite.
Two calves and a cow were dumped near the fountain in Steine Gardens and a dead horse was left in Queen's Road, near Brighton station.
A placard sticking out of the horse was printed with the warning: "If you find this disgusting, you will see a lot more if they ban hunting."
At Brighton Magistrates' Court, the two men, both from the Isle of Wight, admitted a charge of disorderly behaviour on September 28, causing harassment, alarm or distress.
They faced up to six months in jail or a fine of £5,000.
But kennel huntsman Trousdale, 33, of Gatcombe, Newport, was fined £80 and Butcher, 39, a builder of Ashley Road, Ryde, was fined £167. Both were ordered to pay £70 costs.
John Rolls, director of the RSPCA's animal welfare promotion, said: "The actions of these two, who callously dumped the carcasses on the streets of Brighton, showed a complete disregard for both animals, decency and the views of 76 per cent of the public who believe hunting with dogs should be illegal.
"While we are glad Sussex Police treated this case with gravity and brought it swiftly to court, we are astonished the offence has resulted in the imposition of such a small penalty by Brighton magistrates."
Ken Bodfish, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, said: "I think it is an inadequate fine for the distress caused to many animal-lovers, particularly children. This was an outrageous act."
Brighton Pavilion MP David Lepper said he was shocked at the punishment and called for tougher laws to deal with such offensive crimes.
He said: "These people went beyond what anybody would think were civilised standards."
Animal rights campaigner Mary Frankel confronted the men as they left the court, in Edward Street.
Mrs Frankel, 64, of Benson Court, Hove, said: "People have been fined more for throwing cigarette butts on the ground."
David Packer, prosecuting, told the court witnesses were moved to tears by what they saw. The men dragged the carcasses from the back of a pick-up truck at about 11.30am in front of children playing around the fountain.
Café owner Tracey Jansen described the protest to police as "barbaric".
Charles Shelton, defending, said the men carried out their actions for political reasons and apologised for causing distress.
He added all the animals had died a natural death.
He said: "Being from the countryside they are so much more used to the sight of death. It was a mistake not to realise the effect on urban people.
"They are countrymen who, as they see it, face an assault on their way of life. They are deeply sorry about the distress caused by their actions."
Mr Shelton said Trousdale, a married father of two, would lose his job and home if the proposed ban becomes enforced and his hounds, which he loved, would be destroyed.
Trousdale is one of the masters of the Isle of Wight Hunt, which is midway through a month's suspension handed out by the Master of Foxhounds' Association following a hearing into the Brighton protest
GUNTER said:
I sence double standards here. If we all got given maximun sentences for our protests against Archer and Bellotti, there would have been an outcry. This was a protest against injustice and prejudice FFS not a crime against humanity! You may not agree with it, and in my opinion it was in extremely bad taste, but it must have been intended to draw attention to their case.
Uncle Spielberg
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Thats a crock of shit.
These toffs in there shiny red jackets that look like complete bell ends patronise us " townies " with such crap in the Argus today and I quote
" being from the countryside they are so much more used to the sight of death. It was a mistke not to realise the effect on urban people ". Defence lawyer
Piss off, its about common decency not to dump a horse in the middle of a main road in a busy town with young children walking pass.
Wankers all of them.
These toffs in there shiny red jackets that look like complete bell ends patronise us " townies " with such crap in the Argus today and I quote
" being from the countryside they are so much more used to the sight of death. It was a mistke not to realise the effect on urban people ". Defence lawyer
Piss off, its about common decency not to dump a horse in the middle of a main road in a busy town with young children walking pass.
Wankers all of them.
fatbadger
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3gulls said:
You don't really believe that, do you? Good grief.
Gareth Glover said:
"Toffs" i'm sure some must be. But most are ordinary people who enjoy riding and the thrill of the hunt. I don't know any "toffs" (ok, perhapse the one who owns the company i work for) but do know several very ordinary people who spend a lot of their hard-earned money on hunting/horses. It looks to me like you have an inferiority complex and wish to get involved in a "class" war. FFS Maggie stopped all that when she created a country that gave everyone the oportunity to better themselves, and smashed the marxist unions.
fatbadger
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3gulls said:
See what you've done there? You've done a "looney". You've gone so far into the realms of lunacy you have given the game away - you're just a parodist like looney, deliberately making those you are ostensibly supporting look like idiots. Good work! Keep it up!
Dave the OAP
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"...smash the marxist unions...." and replace them with what. A situation where companies have the ability to sack thousands of people and get away with it by calling it "redundancy". Companies that can at a whim move thousands of jobs half way round the world to people who are paid 50 times less than here?
Oh yes..very public spirited of you 3gulls.
So when you retire and because of the diminished power of the unions there is no pension fund, no health service, no public transport, remember Mrs Thatcher in her 5 million pound house in London and her country residences as I am sure she is thinking about you
Oh yes..very public spirited of you 3gulls.
So when you retire and because of the diminished power of the unions there is no pension fund, no health service, no public transport, remember Mrs Thatcher in her 5 million pound house in London and her country residences as I am sure she is thinking about you