The cretinous pundit (the name escaped me, female) on the telly said it was 'only a yellow' because it 'was not a foul'.
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[Albion] Rudiger Red?
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Wouldn't have happened. The monitor isn't there for the ref to double check his decisions, or just to make sure with a second look. It's there for when the VAR says you need to have another look because what you say you thought you saw didn't happen. It's why it's so incredibly rare to see a ref go to the monitor and stick to his original decision - he's only ever going because the VAR thinks he got it wrong, but the ref has to have the final say.
If he gave a red, he would have told the VAR he did so because it was a two footed lunge that went over the ball. VAR would look at the footage, see a two footed lunge that went over the ball, and the decision would stand.
Seasider78
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Not in control at all and a second later would break a leg, like Kanes the decision has been taken on who made the challenge and if that is one of our players lunging like that Dean would be waving a red at them
https://twitter.com/togetherbha/status/1476299107811663875?s=21
https://twitter.com/togetherbha/status/1476299107811663875?s=21
I think its a red although I'm not furious it only ended up a yellow, I'll admit that if I was the ref I might make different decisions there at different times based on some kind of gut feeling. Not saying its the right way to do it but you have a few seconds to make a call and it isnt easy to always get it right. Generally speaking Dean was excellent yesterday, as he is most often.
But generally speaking I think it is a red. If you make a dangerous challenge like that and get away with it just because you didnt hit the player in the worst possible way, it sends the signal that jumping in with two feet is okay as long as you get away with it, which is the wrong signal as these tackles are very dangerous and the margins of getting the ball or the player are very slim.
But generally speaking I think it is a red. If you make a dangerous challenge like that and get away with it just because you didnt hit the player in the worst possible way, it sends the signal that jumping in with two feet is okay as long as you get away with it, which is the wrong signal as these tackles are very dangerous and the margins of getting the ball or the player are very slim.
Shropshire Seagull
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I wouldn't want Rudiger [or Alonso] in a Brighton shirt - both are a downgrade on what we already have.
Oh, red, for sure.
Oh, red, for sure.
SeagullinExile
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Yellow for me. If he'd made contact with Lamptey however.......
pasty
A different kind of pasty
This. Very disappointed he wasn't. After that foul, I stuck a cheeky £5 on him being sent off at 8/1
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I agree on orange but why tell people to shut up? It's the kind of incident that deserves discussion and different opinions.
warmleyseagull
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He's off to Real Madrid for next season so probably wouldn't mind having 3 games off.
Neville's Breakfast
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Dale Stephens at Boro springs to mind. No comparison with regards to the challenges but Dale was shown a red for an innocuous challenge whereas this Chelsea player remains on the pitch…
Just saw this on Sky Sports: https://www.skysports.com/football/...oul-on-christian-pulisic-during-brighton-draw
I've never seen Gallagher's answers questioned like this (reported questions the two Chelsea calls, both which were correct, but not the Rudiger one, the only one actually worth talking about), so it was pretty clear the person asking the question was a bitter Chelsea fan. Quelle surprise, he is a Chelsea fan who 'appeared on their club DVD' whatever that means. A journalist or broadcaster who is incapable of hiding their bias isn't a very good one, as we saw last night. Pathetic really.
Tommy Tw at and co have done a great job of forming this media narrative that they were somehow hard done by rather than outplayed for the majority of the game before getting what they deserved.
I've never seen Gallagher's answers questioned like this (reported questions the two Chelsea calls, both which were correct, but not the Rudiger one, the only one actually worth talking about), so it was pretty clear the person asking the question was a bitter Chelsea fan. Quelle surprise, he is a Chelsea fan who 'appeared on their club DVD' whatever that means. A journalist or broadcaster who is incapable of hiding their bias isn't a very good one, as we saw last night. Pathetic really.
Tommy Tw at and co have done a great job of forming this media narrative that they were somehow hard done by rather than outplayed for the majority of the game before getting what they deserved.
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dadams2k11
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Both feet of the ground above the ball.
Red all day long and twice on a Sunday.
That was a reverse upside down superman.
Red all day long and twice on a Sunday.
That was a reverse upside down superman.
Hard to convey tone in text form. Be assured it's a gentle shut up that were this debate being held in a pub no one present would consider it actually meant they should shut up
sydney
tinky ****in winky
this always springs to mind where the shyster is concerned , he definitely errs on the side of the big boys.
HastingsSeagull
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Red if a regular team, yellow or no foul if ‘big six’
Fat Boy Fat
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If it was a yellow, which of these offences was he cautioned for?
A player is cautioned if guilty of:
delaying the restart of play
dissent by word or action
entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
failing to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a dropped ball, corner kick, free kick or throw-in
persistent offences (no specific number or pattern of offences constitutes “persistent”)
unsporting behaviour
entering the referee review area (RRA)
excessively using the 'review' (TV screen) signal
A substitute or substituted player is cautioned if guilty of:
delaying the restart of play
dissent by word or action
entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
unsporting behaviour
entering the referee review area (RRA)
excessively using the 'review' (TV screen) signal
A player is cautioned if guilty of:
delaying the restart of play
dissent by word or action
entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
failing to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a dropped ball, corner kick, free kick or throw-in
persistent offences (no specific number or pattern of offences constitutes “persistent”)
unsporting behaviour
entering the referee review area (RRA)
excessively using the 'review' (TV screen) signal
A substitute or substituted player is cautioned if guilty of:
delaying the restart of play
dissent by word or action
entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
unsporting behaviour
entering the referee review area (RRA)
excessively using the 'review' (TV screen) signal
Taybha
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Whatever Mark Clittenberg says, he's going to be the next James Bond btw.
That can’t be the full list of reasons to give a yellow, otherwise what are most yellow cards given for?
Edit. Unsporting behaviour
There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour including if a player:
attempts to deceive the referee e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)
changes places with the goalkeeper during play or without the referee’s permission (see Law 3)
commits in a reckless manner a direct free kick offence
handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack
commits any other offence which interferes with or stops a promising attack except where the referee awards a penalty kick for an offence which was an attempt to play the ball
denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by an offence which was an attempt to play the ball and the referee awards a penalty kick
handles the ball in an attempt to score a goal (whether or not the attempt is successful) or in an unsuccessful attempt to prevent a goal
makes unauthorised marks on the field of play
plays the ball when leaving the field of play after being given permission to leave
shows a lack of respect for the game
initiates a deliberate trick for the ball to be passed (including from a free kick or goal kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law, whether or not the goalkeeper touches the ball with the hands; the goalkeeper is cautioned if responsible for initiating the deliberate trick
verbally distracts an opponent during play or at a restart
Fat Boy Fat
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My bad, I didn't copy the unsporting behaviour section... the bolded out offence must be how Mr Dean interpreted Rudiger's challenge - and not as this!
Serious foul play
A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.