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Meade's Ball
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I think i had enough intelligence to want to play like some footballers but not be like them. The same as i wish i had the textural brushstrokes of Van Gogh without cutting off my ear at any stage. I don't like Rooney and dislike his success, but him swearing sometimes doesn't paint the picture of the person i have little respect for. It's other elements of him and the fact he plays for Man Utd.
I don't think kids are as idiotic and susceptible as some people think.
I don't think kids are as idiotic and susceptible as some people think.
Sussex Nomad
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The guy is a Grade A intellectually challenged scouse northern fuckwit. No-one ever accused a footballer of having a brain, but in shreks case he has special needs. Ugly little twat that spends 90 minutes on the pitch in the refs ear, even if it's 90 yards from where he was, did you see him dive in the pen box and quickly get up because what he did was embarrassing? He's a cheat to. England don't need him, this was proved the other night. And people go awn and awn and awn about JT when we have this complete tosser in our midst. I hope he has a career finishing injury asap ... I hate him.
seagulls4ever
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I don't think some people realise how good Rooney actually is. He is bit of a bellend though.
martin samuel from the mail summed it up for me when he said that, to get to the top of the pro game, you have to go through a thousand odd games where it is brutally survival of the fittest. you are used to seeing best friends having their hearts broken and having to ignore that to the point of losing that friendship to get to your goal. aggression and pressure is heaped on you from an early age and, then, when you do make it, everyone wants you to be a saint.
Seagull on the wing
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Never ever saw the greatest footballer in the world (Pele) swear or abuse the referee,he did'nt need too and he had talent galore,Bobby Moore another one...the list is endless...just because you're a talented footballer you don't have to act like a moron and swear into everyones television.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
Fergie's half time talk......" and as for you ,ya f***ing baldy , ginger, granny shagging , greedy little ,120 thou a week , scuose kaaaaaaaaaaant........get yer shyte tagather or yer off tae Celtic........dya copy....
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don't mind fergie . Rooney is an utter knob .
?don't mind fergie . Rooney is an utter knob .
Brighton M
Banned
Not the first time I've heard a footballer sweat when celebrating a goal, although admittedly it isn't usually directly at the camera. However, it's Rooney, so everyone makes a meal out of it. Tedious.
Having said that, it's such a shame that England's best player by a mile is such a disgusting man. What an idiot.
Having said that, it's such a shame that England's best player by a mile is such a disgusting man. What an idiot.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I think many defending him have missed the point.
It's not the fact you hear swearing. Everyone accepts that at football you will hear swearing. Be it from the crowd, the managers on a Pitchside microphone or the players again on a mic by the goal. That's ok.
What Rooney did was walk TO the camera and start effing a blinding directly to it.
Yes he wasn't doing it TO someone as such, but the whole purpose of the camera is to beam the match. He was aggressive and stupid and should have realised that he was directly shouting abuse AT the viewers. It was intententional and is not even remotely comparative with just 'swearing a bit' and it being overheard.
Nothing to do with 'relieving stress'
If im stressed I don't grab someone and shout in their face. You shout it indirectly.
It's not the fact you hear swearing. Everyone accepts that at football you will hear swearing. Be it from the crowd, the managers on a Pitchside microphone or the players again on a mic by the goal. That's ok.
What Rooney did was walk TO the camera and start effing a blinding directly to it.
Yes he wasn't doing it TO someone as such, but the whole purpose of the camera is to beam the match. He was aggressive and stupid and should have realised that he was directly shouting abuse AT the viewers. It was intententional and is not even remotely comparative with just 'swearing a bit' and it being overheard.
Nothing to do with 'relieving stress'
If im stressed I don't grab someone and shout in their face. You shout it indirectly.
Meade's Ball
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Isn't swearing at a camera the same as swearing on a computer screen? We'd be lambasting the rival fan who appears on NSC to talk moronically about how gay we are or how we're too big for our britches, for talking dirty to the 400 readers who chanced upon it. Some of us snap back at such a sort, but it's unlikely anyone takes the wording of some idiot to heart as if they had any authority whatsoever over the world and its workings.
Best to take such stupidity with a pinch of salt. Otherwise we're trapped for eternity in an episode of That's Life, sermonising and polishing our vendetta-bloody swords of justice.
Best to take such stupidity with a pinch of salt. Otherwise we're trapped for eternity in an episode of That's Life, sermonising and polishing our vendetta-bloody swords of justice.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Role-modelling doesn't come with the package, then? I guess Rooney is just happy just to be a fat bastard that made it.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
his little spruik at the cameras after the algeria game will not be forgotten in a hurry........the guy is a first class wanker, end of.....sure he is a talented footballer but as a role model he is pox.
And most of the kids today who will be looking to be the best, looking to emulate "the best footballer this country has", "the first name on te shet fo utd and england" have never even seen pele play. They see Rooney swearing s he plays, and they see him face no retribution, and they see people excuse his more thuggish antics as "passion - if you take out the thuggish behaviour, you lose some of his talent".
I'm not saying him swearing is a major crime, or that every single child will try to copy him, I'm sure some will, some will be able to distinguish between the talent side of his game and the unacceptable side.
What I'm saying is the issue of Footballers v Parents as role models isn't a simple either/or argument. People will take some from one, and some from the other.
He's a twat and all the names he has been called on here, yes.
But he's also a great footballer, one below world class in my opinion, and earns stupid amounts of money every week for playing his favorite sport, so do you think he gives a shit what people like us think about him? No. And why should he.
If someone wants to use him as a role model then so be it, he isn't asking anyone to be him. And if a relative of mine took after him and got as far in the game as he has, I wouldn't care less what he shouted at the camera.
But he's also a great footballer, one below world class in my opinion, and earns stupid amounts of money every week for playing his favorite sport, so do you think he gives a shit what people like us think about him? No. And why should he.
If someone wants to use him as a role model then so be it, he isn't asking anyone to be him. And if a relative of mine took after him and got as far in the game as he has, I wouldn't care less what he shouted at the camera.
And how's your professional football career going?
People don't go around excusing Van Gogh cutting of his ear explaining that cutting it off is integral to his ability to paint. It was unrelated. The experts explain that he had mental health problems and that was why he cut his ear off. The 'experts' don't disconnect Rooney's talent from his unsavoury behaviour. They are entwined, we are told time and again that Rooney is as talented as he is because of his passion and that passion is also why he loses his temper.
Some kids are smarter than we give them credit for, but some are as smart as we give them credit for and some less so.
Meade's Ball
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Not too well, sadly, for different mental and physical health problems. Thanks for asking though. I'll be playing slightly one-leggedly tomorrow night at 9.15 if you want to come and watch. Bring some 'experts' with you as i'd be delighted to hear their opinion of me too.
I do not agree with this. You could attach this idea to many professions, not to mention sports. Football always seems to be the sport where the players often act like animals/chavs/oiks though.
There is a rather compelling argument that Rooney is not as good as he is made out to be. These very pages have mentioned that he has never delivered at the sharp end of a tournament bar that Euros many moons ago. Banging in three against relegation fodder does not make him world class. Maybe the frustration is born out of this?
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ewe2
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Rooney is blessed to be a very good footballer. I dont beleive him to be stupid . He has come from a very poor part of Liverpool ,perhaps education was not a high priority (although that statment could be predudiced ). He is very well paid for his talent ,yet at times he lets us down ,as he did yesderday !Rooney will have to learn that ,that the world is not against him,but visa versa.