[Albion] Roberto De Zerbi - JOINS AS NEW HEAD COACH (4 year contract)

[dangull]

FWIW: I don't know if anybody here ever watches the Irish Guy, but he absolutely hated Potter (and still does) and hates us for some reason (he thinks we are all hipsters). Still, he is sometimes entertaining. Here are his thoughts on De Zerbi (starting around 7:11)



To be fair, he's whole schtick is complaining about how much things failing. The only thing he ever seems positive about is José Mourinho

Blimey, that puts a completely different slant on his career than the optimistic nature of this thread so far.

 

[brighton_tom]

FWIW: I don't know if anybody here ever watches the Irish Guy, but he absolutely hated Potter (and still does) and hates us for some reason (he thinks we are all hipsters). Still, he is sometimes entertaining. Here are his thoughts on De Zerbi (starting around 7:11)



To be fair, he's whole schtick is complaining about how much things failing. The only thing he ever seems positive about is José Mourinho

Probably not point watching this if like you say he hates GP and us. I wont be wasting my time.

 

[Swansman]

Souness is making it sound like a concern because he keeps getting sacked and if he was any good clubs would have wanted to keep him, however the reason he's had a lot of jobs is because he's moved up the footballing ladder quite quickly as a manager.

Started at Serie D Darfo Boario which is semi pro and then left to take over as manager of Foggia in Serie C, he left there after 2 years due to a disagreement with the board and was quickly snapped up by Palermo in Serie A. That didn't last long, just 12 games, but Palmero were a car crash at the time and sacked the next two managers after him even quicker. He then joined Benevito after a year out of the game and despite being relegated he was praised for his possession based attacking football. After relegation he left to take over Sassuolo and led them to two 8th places finishes missing out on Europe on goal difference one season. He then left there to manage Shaktar but obviously left because of the war in Ukraine, however he was very reluctant to leave and wouldn't do so until his players were all safe.

Obviously the concern should be more about him getting snapped up by a bigger club should he do well here, he was on Juventus radar when we gave him the job, but if managers are doing well here it's something we are going to have to get used to.

Yup... all those moves were reasonable.

Foggia was run by the mafia and they probably wanted him to do things he wouldn't do. He even a few years later got (initially) suspended for taking cash under the table in his Foggia days, until he was cleared of those charges.

Palermo was silly stuff, bet he regrets taking the job in the first place.

Benevento got relegated, of course you take a Serie A job then. A lot of people in here earn more than most managers in Serie B.

Sassuolo for Shakhtar... obviously main motive is money but they're also all kinds of bigger than Sassuolo.

Shakhtar... what could he do really? Not sure he got the power he needs to stop wars.

 

[raymondo]

I was aware he was a “good guy”, but I’ve read things this morning that cement this firmly, and which I am sure will have made him attractive as a manager to the club alongside his football qualities.

He’s obviously a man of principle, and an article from the Daily Mail (sorry) on Facebook described him as brave.
- he initially would not leave the Ukraine out of loyalty to the fans.
- he eventually wouldn’t leave until he was sure all his “frightened Brazilian” players were safe - he seems to have left at the very last moment.
- he refused to talk to Bologna about their managerial vacancy because they had sacked their previous coach, who was undergoing treatment for leukaemia for the second time in three years.

All of that seemed a bit Potteresque - BUT he is his own man, a decent man for a decent club.

Souness is making it sound like a concern because he keeps getting sacked and if he was any good clubs would have wanted to keep him, however the reason he's had a lot of jobs is because he's moved up the footballing ladder quite quickly as a manager.

Started at Serie D Darfo Boario which is semi pro and then left to take over as manager of Foggia in Serie C, he left there after 2 years due to a disagreement with the board and was quickly snapped up by Palermo in Serie A. That didn't last long, just 12 games, but Palmero were a car crash at the time and sacked the next two managers after him even quicker. He then joined Benevito after a year out of the game and despite being relegated he was praised for his possession based attacking football. After relegation he left to take over Sassuolo and led them to two 8th places finishes missing out on Europe on goal difference one season. He then left there to manage Shaktar but obviously left because of the war in Ukraine, however he was very reluctant to leave and wouldn't do so until his players were all safe.

Obviously the concern should be more about him getting snapped up by a bigger club should he do well here, he was on Juventus radar when we gave him the job, but if managers are doing well here it's something we are going to have to get used to.

Souness is a ****, contrary and controversial with little if any research.

 

[raymondo]

I was aware he was a “good guy”, but I’ve read things this morning that cement this firmly, and which I am sure will have made him attractive as a manager to the club alongside his football qualities.

He’s obviously a man of principle, and an article from the Daily Mail (sorry) on Facebook described him as brave.
- he initially would not leave the Ukraine out of loyalty to the fans.
- he eventually wouldn’t leave until he was sure all his “frightened Brazilian” players were safe - he seems to have left at the very last moment.
- he refused to talk to Bologna about their managerial vacancy because they had sacked their previous coach, who was undergoing treatment for leukaemia for the second time in three years.

All of that seemed a bit Potteresque - BUT he is his own man, a decent man for a decent club.

I'm surprised no-one picked up on him saying "...when I leave..."

The earliest "Come and get me" plea in history?

I'm surprised no-one picked up on Tony or Paul saying one of the main reasons they wanted Roberto was because he was available ... 1-1 I'd say

 

[macbeth]

Probably not point watching this if like you say he hates GP and us. I wont be wasting my time.

yeah I wouldn't bother. has backed us for relegation every season since promotion

 

[Motogull]

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You swine.

 

[Stato]

Blimey, that puts a completely different slant on his career than the optimistic nature of this thread so far.

That actually gives me confidence in the appointment. Of all the no-nothing Youtube football pundits, he undoubtedly knows the least. His videos are just a reason to deliver dismissive pub joke insults and he can't even do that properly. He has a weird off key delivery to his punchlines which makes everything sound like he has just read it for the first time. His views are based entirely on gut reactions / prejudices and his research is done only so he can cherry pick anything that might back up the opinion he has already formed. An opinion that is almost always completely wrong. His scant knowledge of the sport doesn't equip him to talk in terms of tactics and so he labels anyone who can a 'hipster' and condemns everything that they may champion. He doesn't like us because others do, and because he's a Newcastle fan (See his reaction to the Saudi takeover for an object lesson in completely missing the point) and they've been our bunnies ever since we've been in the league.

 

[Bakero]

Seen a few mentions of the ‘sole’ being part of his philosophy but can’t seem to grasp what he is referring to. Anyone care to enlighten me?

As others mentioned, it's about controlling the ball with the studs, thereby giving the player the opportunity to move 360 degrees. It's a big thing in futsal. De Zerbi seems to like his defenders to stand with their foot on the ball while they draw in the attackers, which is frankly terrifying.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGKfMv4IwgA

Edit: Here's the man himself talking a little about The Sole

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[Baldseagull]

Only concern for me which was touched on this morning on Talksport by Graeme Souness was that he's had 7 coaching jobs in 9 years.
Similar maybe to the likes of Conte and Mourinho who seem to not like to stay in the same place for too long.

 

[Easy 10]

Blimey, that puts a completely different slant on his career than the optimistic nature of this thread so far.

I lasted around 23 seconds of that god awful DREK before switching off. If you're going to sit there and squawk like a pre-pubescent Bono on steroids instead of speaking like an adult, then my attention span will never come close to reaching the end of whatever drivel it is you are attempting to empart. What an absolute whopper.

 

[Baldseagull]

read this piece here, it should allay those specific concerns
https://football-italia.net/why-de-zerbi-cv-shouldnt-worry-brighton-fans/

though souness' comments were ridiculous, and, ironically enough, evidently the results of a quick 30 second google search

"It's a risk, youre bringing someone in who doesn't know our game" "They're making an appointment of someone who has no history in the English game"
Like when City appointed Guardiola
Like when Liverpool appointed Klopp
Like when Man U appointed Ten Haag
Clearly we should have gone for Sean Dyche, 9 years at one club and knows the English game.

 

[elwheelio]

Catching up on my football podcasts. Both James Horncastle and Nicky Bandini are Italian football experts and seem excited by the appointment. They both said that he plays very attacking football, and that his teams score loads and concede loads. Sounds like it won't be dull.

 

[Swansman]

"It's a risk, youre bringing someone in who doesn't know our game" "They're making an appointment of someone who has no history in the English game"
Like when City appointed Guardiola
Like when Liverpool appointed Klopp
Like when Man U appointed Ten Haag
Clearly we should have gone for Sean Dyche, 9 years at one club and knows the English game.

Bit rich also considering how utterly shite Souness was as a manager

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Bit rich also considering how utterly shite Souness was as a manager

I've always been firmly of the view that it's not necessary to have had personal experience as a successful player/mamager to be an insightful pundit.

Apart from anything else, getting caught up on that distracts from the more pertinent point that he's talking COMPLETE BOLLOCKS.

 

[dazzer6666]

read this piece here, it should allay those specific concerns
https://football-italia.net/why-de-zerbi-cv-shouldnt-worry-brighton-fans/

though souness' comments were ridiculous, and, ironically enough, evidently the results of a quick 30 second google search

…to add further irony, Souness suggested DeZ ‘looked at a couple of Brighton games on the internet, hardly makes him a genius’ after Barber had said how much he’d studied our play. Twonk.

 

[macbeth]

"It's a risk, youre bringing someone in who doesn't know our game" "They're making an appointment of someone who has no history in the English game"
Like when City appointed Guardiola
Like when Liverpool appointed Klopp
Like when Man U appointed Ten Haag
Clearly we should have gone for Sean Dyche, 9 years at one club and knows the English game.

agree, though as stupid as it was, I don't blame souness per se. talksport hire pundits based on their ability to generate interactions, in order to do this they pick those seen simultaneously as 'outspoken' but also totally out of touch. souness is in the position, commenting on a manager he knows nothing about, for that exact reason. he did probably exactly what his employers wanted him to.

 

[Seasider78]

"It's a risk, youre bringing someone in who doesn't know our game" "They're making an appointment of someone who has no history in the English game"
Like when City appointed Guardiola
Like when Liverpool appointed Klopp
Like when Man U appointed Ten Haag
Clearly we should have gone for Sean Dyche, 9 years at one club and knows the English game.

His criteria for how to spend big money on players would also rule out signing Haaland

- played in your league before
- scored goals in your league
- consistently performed in your league
- no injuries

What a clown!!

We all know he is thinking ‘British jobs for British workers’ the walking anachronism

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I lasted around 23 seconds of that god awful DREK before switching off. If you're going to sit there and squawk like a pre-pubescent Bono on steroids instead of speaking like an adult, then my attention span will never come close to reaching the end of whatever drivel it is you are attempting to empart. What an absolute whopper.

I am scratching my head to think of one single Irish football club. Dublin United? Cork Unstoppered? Do they even play the game? Isn't the native game something like 50 a side, on hands and knees, chasing a cabbage? "Gabh cabáiste dom le haghaidh mo dhinnéar álainn" I think it's called.

In other news, Liz Truss delivers a condescending lecture on socialism.

 

[Easy 10]

I am scratching my head to think of one single Irish football club. Dublin United? Cork Unstoppered? Do they even play the game? Isn't the native game something like 50 a side, on hands and knees, chasing a cabbage? "Gabh cabáiste dom le haghaidh mo dhinnéar álainn" I think it's called.

In other news, Liz Truss delivers a condescending lecture on socialism.

They're all Liverpool and Celtic fans.

Says all you need to know.