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Obama V Clinton - Who would NSC vote for ?.



Stumpy Tim

Well-known member
I suspect a Clinton/Obama (President/VP) ticket could ride in by picking up the Black vote (which Gore threw away to some extent)

I'm not sure Gore threw away the vote - more like Bush and his crooks didn't let them vote. Scandalous

Clinton for me. That website is clearly biased in favour of Obama it's ridiculous. The Republicans will come out firing when election time comes around, and they'll play all types of nasty tricks. Clinton's more experienced at defending herself to these tactics, and she'll win. Obama may not know how to handle it.

To be honest, I think either of them will do a good job. McCain won't win
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Bill was a liar and crooked as hell. Why assume that Hillary is any different. The Bush's have shown what nepotism brings to US politics. Obama all the way.

I agree.
 


An Obama victory would be an important one symbolically, I think the world would look at America far more favourably if Obama became president. He does offer genuine change in terms of style and outlook that would surely shake things up a lot, and I feel certainly in the short term the US would start to win back a few more friends across the globe.

However as much as I am wary of her Hilary seems better equipped to actually run the country, in terms of policy she has got most things covered and does have detail backing the showbiz. This for me is the difference between Hilary and Obama. Obama gives great inspirational speeches and can wow a crowd, but I get the feeling that aside from preaching hope and change I do not know what he will do once in power.

I think they would be a great ticket, and IF they could work together once the nomination process is over then I think the combination of hope and experience that they can offer would be good for America and the world.

McCain will be a dangerous opponent as he comes across as reasonable republican so soft dem votes are vulnerable to him, I think it will be another close one.

And who would I vote for, probably Obama (I hit 9 on the vote chooser thing).
 








Mr deez

Masterchef
Jan 13, 2005
3,532
I know NOTHING about US politics, chose thought Obama seemed the best as the other options seemed dire.

But my instincts were correct, came top of the vote chooser. Whoever Mike Huckabee is, I agreed with him on nothing.
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,111
Haywards Heath
i would not be suprised if john Mccain became president i think the americans will go for an older more mature candidate.

More to the point

My fear is that a lot of Americans will just go for the White Male.
 






Clinton's top aide Patti Solis Doyle quits and "Giuliani" strategy of banking on big wins in March is high-risk, reports Toby Harnden in Richmond, Virginia

Barack Obama won the Maine caucuses Sunday night, completing a weekend clean sweep of four states and plunging his rival Hillary Clinton's White House bid into deep trouble after her campaign manager stepped down.

Patti Solis Doyle, the first aide Mrs Clinton hired back in 1991 when she was First Lady of Arkansas and her husband Bill was running for president, was replaced by Maggie Williams.



Mrs Clinton appeared to be turning to what political operatives call the "Rudy Giuliani strategy" of sitting out contests in smaller states in the hope of victory in big states that vote later.

Just as the former New York mayor gambled everything on Florida, conceding he would lose the six states before that, Mrs Clinton is increasingly banking on Texas and Ohio on March 4th, bracing herself for likely defeats in most or even all of the five states still to vote in February.

Mr Giuliani, of course, flamed out spectacularly in Florida, finishing third to John McCain and Mitt Romney and then withdrew from of the Republican race.

While few expect Barack Obama to score a knockout blow in March, waiting until then to score big wins could be very risky for Mrs Clinton.

The young Illinois senator swept the board in the weekend votes, winning by 37 percentage points in Washington, 36 points in Nebraska and 21 points in Louisiana. He also scored a lopsided victory in the US Virgin Islands in a performance that stunned the Clinton campaign.
Sunday night, he was 17 points ahead in Maine with 70 per cent of the votes counted. Mr Obama had been expected to do well but the margins of his victories gave him an important boost before "Chesapeake Tuesday" tomorrow, when Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC vote.

Extending his string of wins could help him build powerful momentum for the nomination. "Hillary Clinton is playing the Rudy Giuliani strategy and we've learned that it doesn't work," said Frank Luntz, a leading pollster.

"Voters expect you to woo them. Skipping over states will provoke their ire. There's a real issue of respect in this race, you have a responsibility to try everywhere.
"Obama's busting his ass to compete in every state. That's what you expect from the front-runner, not the challenger. Hers is now a strategy of desperation."

Mrs Clinton looked chastened but defiant as she spoke at the Jefferson-Jackson Democratic dinner in Richmond, Virginia, as the results came in and omitted to congratulate the night's victor

There were chants of "Obama, Obama" as she briefly mingled with the crowd before leaving as her victorious rival entered the room to an exultant welcome.

Her supporters were shocked by her defeats. Alma Ivey-Mathis, 65, a retired technology specialist from Moneta, Virginia, said: "I'm just crushed but I haven't given up. Hillary's still got a chance."

Underlining Mr Obama's effective status as front-runner, President George W Bush made his first detailed public comments about his would-be successor Sunday. "I certainly don't know what he believes in," Mr Bush said in a Fox News interview.

"The only thing I remember he said was he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace Ahmadinejad [Iran's president]."

Bill Burton, a spokesman for Mr Obama, said the Democratic candidate "doesn't need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation".

In a memo released just before Saturday's results, the Clinton campaign said: "Although the next several states that hold nominating contests this month are more favourable to the Obama campaign, we will continue to compete in them and hope to secure as many delegates as we can before the race turns to Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania."

Those three states, culminating with Pennsylvania on April 22, carry 492 delegates, while there are 367 at stake in the 10 contests before them, including the 21 in last night's Maine caucuses.



Mr Obama's aides estimated that his wins would give him an additional 45 "pledged" delegates to the 27 he led by after Super Tuesday last week, when 22 states voted and Mr Obama eked out a wafer-thin victory.

Mrs Clinton has a theoretical overall lead if committed "super delegates" are taken into account but most Democratic officials believe these will swing behind whichever candidate emerges with a clear lead among pledged delegates.

Part of Mrs Clinton's problem is that her finances are now more limited than Mr Obama's. Television advertising in the major media markets of Texas and Ohio is expensive and Mr Obama's grassroots organising has thus far proved much more effective.

The loss in Washington state was a particular slap in the face for Mrs Clinton. She held three rallies there in the 24 hours before voting compared with Mr Obama's single event, though it dwarfed hers by attracting a record crowd of some 21,000.

Opinion polls have given Mr Obama a 20-point advantage in Virginia and Maryland and he is also favoured in the District of Columbia.
 


Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
Obama to win! Clinton was stupid enough to take back her ratbag husband, what else will she be stupid enough to do?
 








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