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Rich Suvner
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i'm going to stick my neck out here....
yes Selhurst is crap and.....
yes I wouldn't choose to have a drum at home games.... but.....
i thought the atmosphere last night was excellent - a true derby and clearly meant alot to both sets of fans. whilst the Palace fans in the home end have opted to become European sounding, there was definitely a lot of noise for most of the game from both sets of fans. i'll give Palace their dues, it was a lot better than a lot of the sterile/silent shit you see from many Prem clubs. for many, that was the only entertainment i needed as a youth at football, and i'd wager that's why a lot of the young Palace fans enjoy following them rather than crap like Fulham etc...
I thought the derby started to come back to life last night - two quite evenly matched sides. in the past (2002/2005) frankly i think we were just happt to be playing them again. now we're in this league on at least an equal footing (and gonig in right direction)..
once we start having games with promotion, playoff spots at stakes etc, we'll start creating the modern history many of those under the age of 35 haven't really experienced.
Bournemouth, Reading, Luton and Orient.
Has Stains-Pompey really only just surfaced in the last 40 or 50 years? I doubt that's true!
What a silly comment...for the first time in the last 30 odd years Brighton have the upper hand, and all of a sudden Palace are not fit to be rivals
It beggers belief..when did BHA fans become so big headed and cocksure of themselfs.
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..Well you hear stories of folk watching either team each week - 'my Dad' etc etc...all say it certainly 'ramped up' in the 60's. I must admit it would be interesting to have a cull of rivalries to see how many 'proper' historical ones there are and are still going now. Obviously Rangers - Celtic would be top...
Personally used to detest Reading and Gillingham - just finding it hard to get worked up anymore about other teams
shame!well listened in........
did you not hear anymore of the game or just the last 15 mins? we really didnt need to beat you at our ground, it was much better beating you at YOUR ground 3-1 and in the History books of your club Dick
Tummy Burger
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This was more a case of me reminiscing about the old fanzine article. I was half expecting a couple of people to mention that they may have remembered it. ( Got right up my nose reading that, albeit 20Yrs plus ago ). I flogged all my old gulls eye's so I cannot scan a copy of it. I genuinely did not mean to open up a can of worms, so my apologies. Rest assured, there will always only be one REAL rival for me.
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well listened in........
Dick
Who was the first League team to EVER win at Selhurst ?. Honest question.
..Well you hear stories of folk watching either team each week - 'my Dad' etc etc...all say it certainly 'ramped up' in the 60's. I must admit it would be interesting to have a cull of rivalries to see how many 'proper' historical ones there are and are still going now. Obviously Rangers - Celtic would be top...
Personally used to detest Reading and Gillingham - just finding it hard to get worked up anymore about other teams
My old mate (now 80) recalls back in the 40/50s one week Palace and one week Charlton and if neither were at home off they poped to Millwall, and it was not just him, football was cheap you could pay at the door, and saturdays were for football.
Forget a rivalry which for me goes back over 35 years ... I think not
I have no idea
we were not the fist to win at your place, but it was your 1st loss in the Leauge
School Playground Fights
In the sixties its was Chelsea because of two acrimonious Cup ties. But more importantly, some Chelsea supporters had moved into the neighbourhood and some of their offspring might go to the same schools. The first Palace game eclipsed all but the Chelsea games. Then the frequency of the Palace games left Chelsea in the doldrums of the Second Division.
I don't like the culture of Bromley and Croydon and Catford* so I'd sooner they stay up in sarf London and do not come down here. There is always going to be friction between Brighton and London clubs, mostly Palace, West Ham and Spurs, because more of them move down here (sometimes cause they are thrown out their own towns for being a nuisance).
*Usually though of a Millwall territory but I knew a Palace supporter from there. Moved down here to get away from the Richardsons.
In the sixties its was Chelsea because of two acrimonious Cup ties. But more importantly, some Chelsea supporters had moved into the neighbourhood and some of their offspring might go to the same schools. The first Palace game eclipsed all but the Chelsea games. Then the frequency of the Palace games left Chelsea in the doldrums of the Second Division.
I don't like the culture of Bromley and Croydon and Catford* so I'd sooner they stay up in sarf London and do not come down here. There is always going to be friction between Brighton and London clubs, mostly Palace, West Ham and Spurs, because more of them move down here (sometimes cause they are thrown out their own towns for being a nuisance).
*Usually though of a Millwall territory but I knew a Palace supporter from there. Moved down here to get away from the Richardsons.
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From Wiki. I see Palace owe Brighton a thank you.
In 1922 the site, a former brickfield, was bought from the Brighton Railway Company for £2,570. The stadium (designed by Scottish stadium architect Archibald Leitch) was constructed by Humphreys of Kensington (a firm regularly used by Leitch) for around £30,000, and was officially opened by the Lord Mayor of London on 30 August 1924. There was then only one stand (the present Main Stand), but this was unfinished due to industrial action; Crystal Palace played Sheffield Wednesday and lost 0–1 in front of 25,000 fans.
I think the Portsmouth/Southampton rivalry is much older than that and goes beyond football as well.
But yeah, when I first started following Brighton in 1966 Bournemouth were seen as the 'main' rivals with other clubs coming and going much as they do now: I remember there was a bit of a thing with Fulham for a while and other people remember Luton, Reading, Aldershot and Swindon all featuring at some time. However once the Palace rivalry took off it put all others, including the Bournemouth one, in the shade, it was really intense. Perhaps unsurprisingly it's not nearly so strong now though, despite the best efforts of certain posters on here to keep it alive!
Not sure about rivalry in the early 1960s or before, one of the (very) old posters might be able to answer.
Tummy Burger
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Precisely.
..Well you hear stories of folk watching either team each week - 'my Dad' etc etc...all say it certainly 'ramped up' in the 60's. I must admit it would be interesting to have a cull of rivalries to see how many 'proper' historical ones there are and are still going now. Obviously Rangers - Celtic would be top...
Personally used to detest Reading and Gillingham - just finding it hard to get worked up anymore about other teams
Yep, watching several clubs was especially true in south London. I was dragged along once to see Palace beat Manchester United 5-0 and Portsmouth beat Sunderland 5-0.
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f for the first time in recent years we are potentially going to be more successful than the pock-faced pikeys, I for one will be very keen to elevate the rivalry to hitherto extraordinary levels.
Rather than bin it off we should now commence a delight in the rivlary as we are now perfectly placed to gloat. Something that those disgusting little peasants have rightly done to us for the last 25 years.
The unpalatable truth is that they have played at a higher level, in front of bigger crowds and sustained their existence in the top two leagues for the last 3 decades pretty much.
We on the other hand have been slugging it out with Orient, Barnet, Oxford, Southend in front of crowds under 7k - even in the 1991 play off year we averaged around 8k - so let's just keep things in perspecitve.
Now the wheel of fortune has started to turn our way. I have paid my dues for many years to get to this moment. I have been taunted on trains, escalators on the tube with those bastards singing what division are you in? - for the last 15 years in particular it has been painful.
Now we have the upper hand potentially and a stadium and fan base that for the first time since the 70's has a match day experience to savour and a brand of football to enjoy.
Let's see how the next 10 years pan out and make it happen. For i shall revel in the moment of rubbing a pikeys face in the mud and gloating at their broken shell of a club, shit players, dwindling crowds and miserable existence.
But don't forget why this feels so amazing - because we have been flat on our faces for 20 years. Bin the rivalry
Do me a favour!!!!!!
Rather than bin it off we should now commence a delight in the rivlary as we are now perfectly placed to gloat. Something that those disgusting little peasants have rightly done to us for the last 25 years.
The unpalatable truth is that they have played at a higher level, in front of bigger crowds and sustained their existence in the top two leagues for the last 3 decades pretty much.
We on the other hand have been slugging it out with Orient, Barnet, Oxford, Southend in front of crowds under 7k - even in the 1991 play off year we averaged around 8k - so let's just keep things in perspecitve.
Now the wheel of fortune has started to turn our way. I have paid my dues for many years to get to this moment. I have been taunted on trains, escalators on the tube with those bastards singing what division are you in? - for the last 15 years in particular it has been painful.
Now we have the upper hand potentially and a stadium and fan base that for the first time since the 70's has a match day experience to savour and a brand of football to enjoy.
Let's see how the next 10 years pan out and make it happen. For i shall revel in the moment of rubbing a pikeys face in the mud and gloating at their broken shell of a club, shit players, dwindling crowds and miserable existence.
But don't forget why this feels so amazing - because we have been flat on our faces for 20 years. Bin the rivalry
Do me a favour!!!!!!
I think these are all great reasons for having them as rivals. I detest their goal music, and their drum is embarrassing. Just how I want to think of our rivals. The last thing I want is to respect them and think they're a good club.
I couldn't care less about SCC. Adkins is a twat, as is Hammond, but they won't be there forever.
f for the first time in recent years we are potentially going to be more successful than the pock-faced pikeys, I for one will be very keen to elevate the rivalry to hitherto extraordinary levels.
Rather than bin it off we should now commence a delight in the rivlary as we are now perfectly placed to gloat. Something that those disgusting little peasants have rightly done to us for the last 25 years.
The unpalatable truth is that they have played at a higher level, in front of bigger crowds and sustained their existence in the top two leagues for the last 3 decades pretty much.
We on the other hand have been slugging it out with Orient, Barnet, Oxford, Southend in front of crowds under 7k - even in the 1991 play off year we averaged around 8k - so let's just keep things in perspecitve.
Now the wheel of fortune has started to turn our way. I have paid my dues for many years to get to this moment. I have been taunted on trains, escalators on the tube with those bastards singing what division are you in? - for the last 15 years in particular it has been painful.
Now we have the upper hand potentially and a stadium and fan base that for the first time since the 70's has a match day experience to savour and a brand of football to enjoy.
Let's see how the next 10 years pan out and make it happen. For i shall revel in the moment of rubbing a pikeys face in the mud and gloating at their broken shell of a club, shit players, dwindling crowds and miserable existence.
But don't forget why this feels so amazing - because we have been flat on our faces for 20 years. Bin the rivalry
Spot on, although you think Zaha is shit, check your own boards for Palace players you would like Zaha, Clyne, Speroni were the top 3 I think, you would not like any of them!!
Lush
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Can't rewrite history. They ARE our rivals.
Have to say I didn't really enjoy last night. Seemed like a lot of idiots out - big groups of shouty kids with lager cans banging any metal wall/car/ceiling they passed. 70's hooligans now grown-up who were more interested in getting rid of their pent-up aggression at the Palace fans than actually watching the game. Felt more like a war zone than a football match.
Is here a good place to say that I thought the flying eagle was really cool?
Have to say I didn't really enjoy last night. Seemed like a lot of idiots out - big groups of shouty kids with lager cans banging any metal wall/car/ceiling they passed. 70's hooligans now grown-up who were more interested in getting rid of their pent-up aggression at the Palace fans than actually watching the game. Felt more like a war zone than a football match.
Is here a good place to say that I thought the flying eagle was really cool?