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Norman Baker on the Phone-in



London Irish said:
All excellent questions.

There is a point to having him on, because you can expose his hypocrisy.

Last time Ian had him on, Baker promised point blankly to SCR listeners that he would abide by Prescott's decision, even if it was in favour of the stadium.

If SCR still have that comment on tape, it would be a simple matter just to play it and ask him to account for his broken promise to the people of Sussex.

Was that comment also quoted in The Argus? How could we find it if it was put in the paper?
 




smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,370
On the ocean wave
Can you believe that the people of Lewes vote for such a horrible, greasy, hypocritical, ****!?
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
Southover Street Seagull said:
Was that comment also quoted in The Argus? How could we find it if it was put in the paper?

Taking into account Bellotti's history on phone ins, of only answering questions that have been sent in prior to the show, and that he had vetted, I would expect Baker to follow suit and refuse to answer or allow that question to be put to him as a condition of attending the phone in.
 


Lawro's Lip

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Feb 14, 2004
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BensGrandad said:
Taking into account Bellotti's history on phone ins, of only answering questions that have been sent in prior to the show, and that he had vetted, I would expect Baker to follow suit and refuse to answer or allow that question to be put to him as a condition of attending the phone in.

He should not be allowed to be on it under those terms.
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Do you realise how much damage you have done to the Liberal Democratic Party in Sussex, one place where there was reasonable chance of advancement at the next election?
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
How do you square the Liberal Party's policy on supporting sustainable transport by opposing a football stadium built next to a railway station in favour of one that will increase the number of car journeys?
 


Rougvie

Rising Damp
Aug 29, 2003
5,131
Hove, f***ing ACTUALLY.
Thing is he probably wont loose his seat at the next election, he may be a ****, but his popularity outwith Albion fans in Lewes is still relatively good, the groundswell of overwhelming support for Falmer is still in the city itself, clowns like Baker and De Vecchi have been getting away with saying whatever they like from the cover of Lewes because they know that its safe to do so, lets face it there was more public outcry in Lewes itself about the new f***ing parking system than Falmer.

I'm going to ask him why he cant take into consideration the FACT that only a tiny part of this stadium actually is in LDC, the rest of it is in the city of Brighton and Hove, of which a resounding 56,000 people from that area have signed a petition demanding that a stadium is built.

Its time to crush LDC and Baker with a wave of public (not just a hardcore of Albion fans) support from the city itself.
 






Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
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The free state of Kemp Town
Fat chance he'll partake.

They didn't even have the guts to discuss their opposition to the stadium during public council meetings for fear of being made to look stupid.

His arguments are weak and invalid at best and he knows full well their lies and propaganda won't wash over the airwaves of Sussex when countered by educated Albion fans and other enlightened local residents
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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London Irish said:
All excellent questions.

There is a point to having him on, because you can expose his hypocrisy.

Last time Ian had him on, Baker promised point blankly to SCR listeners that he would abide by Prescott's decision, even if it was in favour of the stadium.

If SCR still have that comment on tape, it would be a simple matter just to play it and ask him to account for his broken promise to the people of Sussex.
Unfortunately, unless he only ever wants to play Devil's Advocate, Harty doesn't appear to be up to speed on Falmer and its developments. Certainly not enough to allow Baker to get away with the lies he will almost certainly spread.
 


Publius Ovidius

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Jul 5, 2003
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The Large One said:
Unfortunately, unless he only ever wants to play Devil's Advocate, Harty doesn't appear to be up to speed on Falmer and its developments. Certainly not enough to allow Baker to get away with the lies he will almost certainly spread.


uncalled for

Harty is very well aware of the Falmer situation as well you know
 






sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,087
Hove
Is it true he has good personnal friends on Falmer Parish Council / LDC that he regularly socialises with?
 
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Rougvie

Rising Damp
Aug 29, 2003
5,131
Hove, f***ing ACTUALLY.
The Large One said:
Unfortunately, unless he only ever wants to play Devil's Advocate, Harty doesn't appear to be up to speed on Falmer and its developments. Certainly not enough to allow Baker to get away with the lies he will almost certainly spread.

Harty 'seems' to represent a lot of fans who can remember a lot further back to a time when the product on the park was the most important thing about being an Albion fan.

There are lots of older Albion fans who have simply lost the plot over Falmer and the latest developments.
 




BensGrandad said:
Taking into account Bellotti's history on phone ins, of only answering questions that have been sent in prior to the show, and that he had vetted, I would expect Baker to follow suit and refuse to answer or allow that question to be put to him as a condition of attending the phone in.

Simple really, find the evidence of him saying that whatever the public enquiry decision we must all abide by it, and then spring it on him. If he walks out of the interview then it looks bad on him doesn't it?
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Southover Street Seagull said:
Simple really, find the evidence of him saying that whatever the public enquiry decision we must all abide by it, and then spring it on him. If he walks out of the interview then it looks bad on him doesn't it?
He won't do that - he's got an entire bag of lies to bring in with him, and he'll just pick one out when he feels cornered. The fact he can't back it up makes not one jot of difference to him. To Norman Baker, the prime objective is mis-information and division, and the reality of the issue can be found hovering in the background somewhere.
 
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The Large One said:
He won't do that - he's got an entire bag of lies to bring in with him, and he'll just pick one out when he feels cornered. The fact he can't back it up makes not one jot of difference to him. To Norman Baker, the prime objective is mis-information and division, and the reality of the issue can be found hovering in the background somewhere.

I cannot see what lie he could peddle to get him out the statement along the lines of " when the stadium decision is reached we must all accept it". Something that he clearly has not done.
 


jonny.rainbow

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Southover Street Seagull said:
I cannot see what lie he could peddle to get him out the statement along the lines of " when the stadium decision is reached we must all accept it". Something that he clearly has not done.

He would argue that it hasn't been reached as there was a flaw with Prescott's original decision.
 




jonny.rainbow said:
He would argue that it hasn't been reached as there was a flaw with Prescott's original decision.

There wasn't a flaw with the decision, there was a flaw with the wording of the letter that Prescott sent out.
We really need the full transcript of what he said about accepting the decision.
 




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