[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

They’re for real. And there’s a heck of a lot of them.
Like there was in 1930’s Germany
A minority that grew into enough (just under 30%) that gave a nice chap called Adolf, enough of a political platform to seize power
Couldn’t happen here though eh?

Nope.

We don't have PR.

Thank f***.

 

[Dr Q]

Two things can be true at once here;

1. This is an outrageous assault and utterly unacceptable
2. Farage is a twat whose rhetoric and actions increases the risk of twats doing this

I agree, as much as I'd like to see Froggy croak (of natural causes) sometime soon and every dog in the neighbourhood use his grave as a toilet, attacking political candidates is definately a no-no. Sadly, it makes the opposition to him look the bad guys and he'll milk it.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Only takes one guy to burn down the Reichstag...

Yes but THIS one guy wasn't/isn't a 'mob' (his feelings about the country, unknown).

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That’s exactly the violent division he seeks.

Yes, protect him, but let’s not pretend it’s not his fault.

Mate, you know I loath the carpet-bagging shit.

But it is not his fault if he is physically attacked.

If he has broken the law by what he has said, he can be arrested.

 

[A1X]

Yes but THIS one guy wasn't/isn't a 'mob' (his feelings about the country, unknown).

My point was more that those who wish to can whip up rhetoric about individuals to imprison thousands of people. Sorry it wasn’t intended as a criticism of your point.

 

[Berty23]

Only takes one guy to burn down the Reichstag...

Well they found one guy to be the fall guy no don’t think anyone really knows for sure who did it do they? It was very fortunate timing for the Nazis.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

My point was more that those who wish to can whip up rhetoric about individuals to imprison thousands of people. Sorry it wasn’t intended as a criticism of your point.

Gotcha

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I agree, as much as I'd like to see Froggy croak (of natural causes) sometime soon and every dog in the neighbourhood use his grave as a toilet, attacking political candidates is definately a no-no. Sadly, it makes the opposition to him look the bad guys and he'll milk it.

Just as I deplore the assault, I also deplore his (and other peoples') attempts to conflate this to include anyone who disagrees with him.

I think he's a ****, but I ain't a bad guy (when you get to know me).

 

[Hotchilidog]

Politicians should be safe from physical assault, even odious scum like Farage. The guy throwing the object should have the book thrown at him by the law.

No exceptions

 

[Guinness Boy]

Mate, you know I loath the carpet-bagging shit.

But it is not his fault if he is physically attacked.

If he has broken the law by what he has said, he can be arrested.

He stokes the division with his comments about Muslims and White British culture, and hires people who admire Hitler and Putin.

That’s divisive AF and quite deliberately so.

Agreed, he hasn’t thrown the brick at himself, but tone down the rhetoric and no one else would either.

 

[nicko31]

Nigel Farage: Objects thrown at Reform leader while campaigning

The Reform UK leader says he will not be cowed by the incident, which was caught on film.

www.bbc.co.uk

I don't like this, just increases his sense of being the victim.

Get him in with a proper journalist for a proper grilling interview and he'll fall apart quickly

 

[jcdenton08]

He stokes the division with his comments about Muslims and White British culture, and hires people who admire Hitler and Putin.

That’s divisive AF and quite deliberately so.

Agreed, he hasn’t thrown the brick at himself, but tone down the rhetoric and no one else would either.

This sounds suspiciously like victim blaming.

As long as he stays within the confines of the law, I don’t see what else can be done. You can’t go around saying “they were asking for it”. It’s not a valid defence in court, unless directly provoked and acting in self defence. Which clearly neither party was.

 

[jcdenton08]

I don't like this, just increases his sense of being the victim.

Get him in with a proper journalist for a proper grilling interview and he'll fall apart quickly

Absolutely. Smash the cretin with words, not bricks. Don’t make him - or anyone else - a martyr. Let’s do politics.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Folks, some of us saw this coming.

For pages and pages I’ve been saying that it isn’t the milkshake per se, it’s the very real danger of normalising assaulting politicians in what should be a democracy.

I spoke before at some length about one-upmanship and the dangerous risk of copycat attacks, particularly due to exposure and engagement via TikTok et al.

This can not be laughed off or trivialised as many did originally, because some of us see the bigger picture and the inherent risk in undermining our democracy by not absolutely condemning attacks of any politician in public.

It happened 90 years ago when someone threw bricks at Oswald Mosley. I mentioned it the other day. Fascists will always attract violent protestors.
That doesn’t make it right, but it’s unsurprising.

Don’t blame me, I’m out of the country.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

, but tone down the rhetoric and no one else would either.

Was Jo Cox's rhetoric the problem?

How about David Amess?

 

[Withdean South Stand]

I understand the urge to throw things at the c8%t. But it's not appropriate and fuels his arguments and his victimhood. He needs to be absolutely battered into submission at the ballot box but there should be no violence of any kind against him, or other politicians. Or anyone else, for any reason. Even in Portslade (Hove, actually).

 

[Thunder Bolt]

People on this thread saying it was a coffee paper cup?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Was Jo Cox's rhetoric the problem?

How about David Amess?

No. However, the extremist views of Jo Cox’s killer were inspired by people like Farage. That’s literally my point.

 

[Diablo]

Chucking a milkshake is harmless !! Chucking a brick could kill !!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Chucking a milkshake is harmless !! Chucking a brick could kill !!

Where does it say it was a brick?