[Football] Newcastle sold for £300m,valuing us at ?

[maltaseagull]

Who in their right mind would want to invest in a football club right now?

Saudi Arabian money launderers?

 

[maltaseagull]

Thats not how you value a business.

Correct.

Goodwill is also a factor.

After a win in the Premier League value £300 million

After a defeat at home to a rival club £50 million

 

[schmunk]

I've always thought what this board was lacking was some sort of football finance expert......alas if only we had one!

You should raise it with the moderators.

 

[Live by the sea]

Not being a global brand and unable to expand the stadium any more than 32,500 and being one of the favs to get relegated each season puts us I would say somewhere between £200 -250 m .

The problem is the big 6 are all global brands so will be worth at least 5 times more than us .

 

[worthingseagull123]

Not being a global brand and unable to expand the stadium any more than 32,500 and being one of the favs to get relegated each season puts us I would say somewhere between £200 -250 m .

The problem is the big 6 are all global brands so will be worth at least 5 times more than us .

In the pecking order, there are bigger more attractive clubs for investors in the Championship.

 

[father_and_son]

4) would the council sanction a new stadium, when, there isn't a real need for it?

They wouldn't when there was. So... No.

 

[stingray]

The population of Newcastle is lower than Brighton, and we have a huge catchment area just like they do. They might have a moderately higher fanbase right now because of their history in the top flight, but it's not overly significant surely... and over time we easily have the potential to exceed theirs, with a more affluent population too.

In addition, in terms of material assets, we have a state of the art training ground and stadium in the South. Land value is surely a lot higher than theirs.

We would surely be a better investment and thus worth more money, if thinking surely from a business perspective. You are right though that our relatively low ground capacity limits our potential.

dream on. Tyneside is over 800,000 chuck in huge parts of counties of Durham, Northumberland it's over 1.5m. Frankly everything about them is bigger.

But doesn't matter a jot. Albion's not for sale.

 

[Bold Seagull]

How much would you say we are worth then?

Amex + Lancing training ground alone £150m? Squad value £100m or more? And the business value?

If the club isn't worth £300m I'd be shocked.

You can even look at shirt sales, Newcastle are 9th in English football, we are 28th, just below Bristol City and Charlton (based on 19/20 sales figures).

The Amex is only worth the revenue it can generate vs how much it costs to run. It's not like a commercial building asset, it can only be used for one thing, and we know from Championship and PL figures, it doesn't get anywhere near raising enough to prevent running a competitive team in the black.

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

dream on. Tyneside is over 800,000 chuck in huge parts of counties of Durham, Northumberland it's over 1.5m. Frankly everything about them is bigger.

But doesn't matter a jot. Albion's not for sale.

Not only that, Newcastle only have Sunderland in close proximity

We have all those London clubs just up the road

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

How much are Sheffield Wednesday worth?


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[Icy Gull]

How much are Sheffield Wednesday worth?


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With that antique stadium I’d suggest priceless. Massive club

 

[Change at Barnham]

Out of interest, has anyone ever seen a Brighton playing shirt on sale outside of Sussex? (not including online).

 

[gazingdown]

Not only that, Newcastle only have Sunderland in close proximity

We have all those London clubs just up the road

And Middlesbrough, as close to Newcastle as London clubs to Brighton.

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

And Middlesbrough, as close to Newcastle as London clubs to Brighton.

well yes,all due respect to Midd'boro

but it's not the same as having Spurs,Arsenal,Chelsea and West Ham

 

[Lurchy]

In the pecking order, there are bigger more attractive clubs for investors in the Championship.

Qatar Sports who are rumored to be interested in Leeds United value the club at around 60-80m. Current owner values it as being significantly more. Ultimately the true value is only what a person is willing to pay.

 

[Seasidesage]

For me they are two different questions. Bigger than Newcastle? Not now, not in 10 years, 50? Who knows?

Can we get 50k for a home game? Not at the Amex no, could we elsewhere? Yes I think we could, in normal PL times we have 30k with a waiting list of 8k, this despite being at the wrong end of the table. If we had some sustained success I think we could do it. Will we? Probably not, as others have said where could we build such a stadium?

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

If Newcastle got relegated and stayed there, and we didn't, it would be only a few years before we would be indisputably "bigger" than them.

In the same way, Bournemouth are now bigger than Sunderland, for example. Something that would have been unimaginable just a decade ago.

disagree

just staying in the top flight doesn't make you a big club

Coventry & Stoke are prime examples

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

Coventry & Stoke were big clubs. We used to be a tiny club.

Football fans are fickle and club stature changes very, very quickly.

not really

we are off alot of people's radar,as are B'mouth

it takes sustained success and some history to make a big club

 

[Weststander]

It’s often said on NSC that if we got relegated and stayed in the Championship, that in subsequent seasons Amex crowds would drop significantly, the s/t waiting list would disappear and all the PL JCL’s would disappear. I’m more optimistic than that, and see base level crowds of say 25,000 (if we have a decent squad and manager).

Newcastle have far more support than that. They have the vast majority of a big conurbation to themselves, football is life itself to huge numbers of people in the cities of northern England and Scotland, a religion. Look at the big crowds Sunderland still get, despite floundering in the third tier, in a catchment population far smaller than the Albion’s.

Imho Newcastle are a bigger club than the Albion.

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

Coventry & Stoke were big clubs. We used to be a tiny club.

Football fans are fickle and club stature changes very, very quickly.

Premier League is the international stage - and the only way to pick up thousands, or millions, of new fans in a very short period.

But they will soon forget about a club once they leave it - See Portsmouth.

Pompey are the most successful club on the south coast

most proper fans know this

we have along way to go