Missed Penalties

[saafend_seagull]

Why is a last minute winner "lucky" ?

I see it more of an indication of our fitness and determination to keep going till the last.

Forest, Leicester for example we didn't deserve to win, and got a lucky last minute winner. Or your way of looking at it means Bolton didn't get lucky!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The wierd thing is that in the last two or three years we seem to have won a few penalty shoot-outs, but can't seem to score them during a game.

I've got to the point where I don't get particularly excited when we're awarded a penalty now.

We've won nearly all the penalty shoot-outs for quite a few years except at Luton.

 

[The Large One]

Since Gus arrived in November 2009, we have scored 22, and not scored 12 - though one was scored from a rebound, 23-11.

League / FA Cup / League Cup - not including shoot-outs. Numbers in brackets indicate 'points lost' by missing.

09/10
Murray Scored 2 - Missed 1 (2)
Forster 2-0
Bennett 1-0

10/11
Bennett 0-2 (0, n/a)
Barnes 4-1 (the '1' was scored from a rebound) (0)
Wood 4-1 (1)
Murray 0-2 (1, n/a)
Dicker 1-1

11/12
Barnes 5-1 (1)
Harley 0-1

12/13
CMS 1-1 (2)
Barnes 0-2 (1, 2)
Dobbie 1-0

 

[The Large One]

Still, not as bad as Reading last season - 8 pens, 6 missed.

 

[Tony Le Mesmer]

That's what I said.

Last season was 11/12

My point was we missed one at Southampton in 2010/11 not two as you implied from the original poster.....nevermind!

 

[The Large One]

Forest, Leicester for example we didn't deserve to win, and got a lucky last minute winner. Or your way of looking at it means Bolton didn't get lucky!

Are you saying they're lucky because they were in the last minute, or because over the balance of the game, the better team didn't win? Or was it awarded unfairly?

Just wondering - was Huddersfield's consolation goal against us 'lucky'?

 

[Albion Robster]

Since Gus arrived in November 2009, we have scored 22, and not scored 12 - though one was scored from a rebound, 23-11.

League / FA Cup / League Cup - not including shoot-outs. Numbers in brackets indicate 'points lost' by missing.

09/10
Murray Scored 2 - Missed 1 (2)
Forster 2-0
Bennett 1-0

10/11
Bennett 0-2 (0, n/a)
Barnes 4-1 (the '1' was scored from a rebound) (0)
Wood 4-1 (1)
Murray 0-2 (1, n/a)
Dicker 1-1

11/12
Barnes 5-1 (1)
Harley 0-1

12/13
CMS 1-1 (2)
Barnes 0-2 (1, 2)
Dobbie 1-0

Greats stats! Thank you for looking into the scorers and the serial missers! Can't believe we all forgot Harley's club footed pass-back last season!

As I kind of thought, only just scoring more than half of our penalties.

Is taking a set piece from 12 yards really that difficult?! Apparently so....!!

 

[The Large One]

In summary, since Gus took over...

Forster 2-0 (100%)
Dobbie 1-0 (100%)
Wood 4-1 (80%)
Barnes 9-4 (69%) 10-3 if you count the rebound (77%)
CMS 1-1 (50%)
Murray 2-3 (40%)
Bennett 1-2 (33%)
Harley 0-1 (0%)

 

[saafend_seagull]

Are you saying they're lucky because they were in the last minute, or because over the balance of the game, the better team didn't win? Or was it awarded unfairly?

Just wondering - was Huddersfield's consolation goal against us 'lucky'?

Balance of play, Forest mullered us, and Leicester we didn't deserve to win, and our last minute 'lucky' goals changed the result. Variance now evening itself out.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Balance of play, Forest mullered us, and Leicester we didn't deserve to win, and our last minute 'lucky' goals changed the result. Variance now evening itself out.

I thought things evened out over a season, not years.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

In summary, since Gus took over...


Harley (0%)

Much like his work rate and attitude...

 

[The Large One]

Balance of play, Forest mullered us, and Leicester we didn't deserve to win, and our last minute 'lucky' goals changed the result. Variance now evening itself out.

It might be fortuitous that we won given the balance of play, but the goals weren't lucky - irrespective of what time they went in.

 

[saafend_seagull]

In summary, since Gus took over...

Forster 2-0 (100%)
Dobbie 1-0 (100%)
Wood 4-1 (80%)
Barnes 9-4 (69%) 10-3 if you count the rebound (77%)
CMS 1-1 (50%)
Murray 2-3 (40%)
Bennett 1-2 (33%)
Harley 0-1 (0%)

Pretty sure Dicker took two in one game?

 

[saafend_seagull]

I thought things evened out over a season, not years.

Says who? Didn't realise that was proven, my bad.

They are all within the last year.

 

[The Large One]

Pretty sure Dicker took two in one game?

Yep - missed him out. Ooops.

In summary, since Gus took over...

Forster 2-0 (100%)
Dobbie 1-0 (100%)
Wood 4-1 (80%)
Barnes 9-4 (69%) 10-3 if you count the rebound (77%)
CMS 1-1 (50%)
Dicker 1-1 (50%)
Murray 2-3 (40%)
Bennett 1-2 (33%)
Harley 0-1 (0%)

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It's usually quoted as 'in a season' for final placings in the table.

 

[Gazwag]

Must be stats held somewhere on % success of pen takers. The egg chasers always have that info.
Leon Knight didn't miss very many as I recall whereas AB seems to have missed so many that everyone can recall many of them - is his success rate above 50% ?

Leon Knight wouldn't be allowed to take them the way he use to so comparing his strike rate is no longer applicable.

 

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[Gazwag]

Yep - missed him out. Ooops.

In summary, since Gus took over...

Forster 2-0 (100%)
Dobbie 1-0 (100%)
Wood 4-1 (80%)
Barnes 9-4 (69%) 10-3 if you count the rebound (77%)
CMS 1-1 (50%)
Dicker 1-1 (50%)
Murray 2-3 (40%)
Bennett 1-2 (33%)
Harley 0-1 (0%)

So 21 from 34, on the plus side our shootout stats are 100% I believe

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Leon Knight wouldn't be allowed to take them the way he use to so comparing his strike rate is no longer applicable.

I said this the other day, on another thread, but once his penalty had been seen on tv, he rarely scored them after that as keepers knew to wait until he'd actually kicked it.