Seagull58
In the Algarve
I have no information that they did. What I have seen of Hamas funding is that they are mainly funded, supported and armed by Iran.So why did Israel fund Hamas when they were writing this ?
I have no information that they did. What I have seen of Hamas funding is that they are mainly funded, supported and armed by Iran.So why did Israel fund Hamas when they were writing this ?
Maybe a little more research would make you better informed to comment on the current situationI have no information that they did. What I have seen of Hamas funding is that they are mainly funded, supported and armed by Iran.
you know it was, I’ve noticed you change your posts quite bit when you’ve been quizzed with a legitimate and fair question, you dont like it when people don’t agree with your narrative or perspective of things. You seem single minded and driving on a one track road, and your driving down it quite fast honking your horn all the way.Is your post addressed to me?
I have no information that they did. What I have seen of Hamas funding is that they are mainly funded, supported and armed by Iran.
My post finished with "There were demonstrators openly supporting Hamas and waving Hamas flags, thereby advocating the elimination of Israel." My post did not say that the demos were organised by Hamas.I even quoted the post you replied to make it obvious. @GT49er said the demos were "staged by those in favour of wiping Israel off the map". @Westdene Seagull asked which demos they were and you replied with an extract from the Hamas Charter and a comment about flags.
Hamas don't want a 2 state solution. Their stated purpose is to wipe out the Jews. All of themOffer a ceasefire, and meaningful discussions on a two state solution?
Pretty crass remark. We’ve already been bombed
Bombs (of the Islamic suicide nature) have been detonated in London and Manchester in recent years, killing scores of innocent people.
I repeat, I don’t want to see any bombing on the streets of our country again.
The glorification of 1400 Jews being slaughtered and blatant acts of anti-semiticsm (racist views to you and me) are not welcome on our streets.
Are you trying to express a point here or just continuing to state the irrelevant facts that everyone knows about?If so, I agree absolutely that Hamas didn't organise the demos but there were Hamas supporters there and the Hamas Charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
I didn't misrepresent the demos. I said there were Hamas supporters there.
No, that's not what I do. What I have done on 3 or 4 occasions is make a post and then within 30 seconds or so I edit it and add more content. On a couple if occasions someone has started to respond to my post before I have edited it. I have not gone back and added more content AFTER seeing a response. In one case I even reied to inform the responder that I had added more content while they were replyingyou know it was, I’ve noticed you change your posts quite when you’ve been quizzed with a legitimate and fair question, you dont like it when people don’t agree with your narrative or perspective of things. You seem single minded and driving on a one track road, and your driving down it quite fast honking your horn all the way.
I am replying to posters replying to me. Sorry if its irrelevantAre you trying to express a point here or just continuing to state the irrelevant facts that everyone knows about?
Of course, if they were to fight under the Geneva Convention, then any and all Hamas prisoners in Israel could be shot immediately (enemy fighters on foreign soil not in uniform) while all the Israeli prisoners in Palestine - yes, even the old men and the babies - would be instantly released.A good question and one that can’t be fully answered in specifics without being informed of all the facts, understanding context or dialling down some of the hyperbole surrounding the question - no one would suggest Israel is not justified in responding in some way to the heinous and invasive attacks carried by Hamas - it would be insane to think she shouldn’t or wouldn’t but an appropriate response needs to be;
In fact everything that does not characterise the current response!
- proportionate and measured and which considers the human and political cost of any such response
- one that avoids the risk of further escalation and/or spilling out into a wider conflict
- one that allows for diplomatic dialogue and ceasefire throughout
- inclusive of a self-assessment as to whether an amendment of one’s of political stance might help reduce future antagonism or at least form the basis for a longer term peace strategy
- conducted with due regard to the Geneva and Hague Conventions on war crimes and protecting civilian populations and in accordance international UN charters.
- has a clear and attainable objective, with an exit strategy
What would be an appropriate Palestinian response to the way Israel is conducting her response to 10/7 !? is the glib comeback to a very loaded question. But we are not playing that silly tit for tat game are we?
I wouldn't be so sure. Hitler was not the only German, and there were plenty of Germans who supported him. If Hitler had not been there, another leader would have emerged from the rabble who followed his policies and led the country, perhaps more competently than Hitler did, and caused the war to go on longer.Unfortunately have not learned much on here about any possibility of a solution on here apart aprt from not ending until Israel feel they have finished off Hamas which will result in thousands and thousands of deaths of innocent people Very sad.
Certainly WW2 would have ended if Hitler was killed 2 years earlier. Could the same be said here if able to kill the leaders of Hamas
Somebody please give me some hope for an ending to this.
I read in a book about Stalin that at a meeting with Churchill and USA president months before end of war Stalin said they had thousands of German Officers and were going to shoot them all. Uproar from Churchill who stopped him saying Britain did not act like that
Israel is not a ‘foreign soil’ to Palestinians - they either live in Israel or under Occupation by Israel -Of course, if they were to fight under the Geneva Convention, then any and all Hamas prisoners in Israel could be shot immediately (enemy fighters on foreign soil not in uniform) while all the Israeli prisoners in Palestine - yes, even the old men and the babies - would be instantly released.
FACT CHECK - ’Hamas’ is not a ‘state’ - they are a terrorist organisation - and not ‘fascist’ - but radical Islamic fundamentalist - agree they need to be dealt with in some wayObviously (to me, anyway) Hamas has t be removed. They are a fascist state, -
I find this a really disgraceful comment - if you are seriously suggesting that ’killing all Jews’ in any context could be found reasonable … but ‘killing homosexuals isn’t’and even if their policy, in theory and in practice - of killing all Jews is found to be reasonable surely their policy - in theory and in practice - of killing homosexuals isn't.
Again, this is offensive - Please read @Bozza ‘s post above because it just looks like you are trolling the thread to get it shut again when most of us want to focus on the news and have a serious discussion (or feel free to use the newly provided ‘ignore thread’ option if you prefer )Like Hitler in WW2 (and they are very like Hitler), the Palestinian people will be better for their removal, as well as the Israeli people.
I think we're flogging a dead horse here. Despite posting repeated links to reports such as this, there are some on this thread who have their fingers in their ears and just want to keep stating how evil Hamas is, a fact which we all agree on anyway.For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces - The Times of Israel
The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal fromwww.timesofisrael.com
I think we're flogging a dead horse here. Despite posting repeated links to reports such as this, there are some on this thread who have their fingers in their ears and just want to keep stating how evil Hamas is, a fact which we all agree on anyway.
Good pointsOf course, if they were to fight under the Geneva Convention, then any and all Hamas prisoners in Israel could be shot immediately (enemy fighters on foreign soil not in uniform) while all the Israeli prisoners in Palestine - yes, even the old men and the babies - would be instantly released.
Obviously (to me, anyway) Hamas has t be removed. They are a fascist state, and even if their policy - in theory and in practice - of killing all Jews is found to be reasonable, surely their policy - in theory and in practice - of killing homosexuals isn't. Like Hitler in WW2 (and they are very like Hitler), the Palestinian people will be better for their removal, as well as the Israeli people.
They aren't, see post #2,326 by @ZeberdiGood points
Richard Littlejohn huffed that protesters were all “stuck in a students’ union timewarp”, while Barbara Amiel claimed in the Telegraph that their “real purpose was to attack Israel, America and free enterprise”. The Times warned that “the presence of many Muslim groups and masked anti-globalisation activists could provide cover for terrorists”.