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McGhee question



Icy Gull

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Lammy said:
That for me has been his biggest problem. Other managers had a similar budget to work with and less prospect of a stadium in the near future and yet we were able to attract and afford wages for the likes of Kitson. We also relied on load players. We've had the success of McShane but that is it.

He could have spent the CKR and Henderson money on loan players, they'd be gone now and we still might not be in the Championship. As it is we have two players who might make a big difference next year who are actually worth money, and saves us two loan players for next year. Seems to make sense to me but it's not instant enough for many on here. The club and manager are thinking long term, many fans are thinking short term.
 
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Lammy

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Monsieur Leclerc said:
But we have also endured a further 3 seasons of financial losses during McGhee's reign.

This is a piss poor excuse. Look at the EXTRA cash we've raised since he's been here!

Play off final
Spurs away
Virgo
Cullip
Harding

We've never had so much money going into the club. This is far more that LDC is costing us.
 


Rusco

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bhaexpress said:
What, like McShane ? Its more a case of good player don't want to play for peanuts in a struggling side who plays its home games in an athletics stadium.

That is one player who was at a club where it was plain he wasn't going to get a game
 


Lammy

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Icy Gull said:
He could have spent the CKR and Henderson money on loan players, they'd be gone now and we still might not be in the Championship. As it is we have two players who might make a big difference next year who are actually worth money, and saves us two loan players for next year. Seems to make sense to me but it's not instant enough for many on here. The club and manager are thinking long term, many fans are thinking short term.

You're right, getting relegated is a great long term plan! :rolleyes:

We easily had the personal to stay in this league we just didn't have the right management.

The money from Coca Cola couldn't be spent on a loan player anyway so a silly argument.

I would argue that we didn't even need Henderson anyway as Kuipers is good enough to fill that space.

Some could also argue that money spent on;

Molango
Jarrett
Turenzo

could have been spend on at LEAST a couple of decent loan players!
 


Rougvie

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Aug 29, 2003
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Hove, f***ing ACTUALLY.
What ever anyone says, McGhee seems not that well loved in some football circles and relies heavily on his 'Class of Gothenburg 83' connections from his Aberdeen days.

He did fantastically well to get McShane and for that he deserves credit.
 




Clapham Old Mug

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Dead right, BHAExpress. Players only come to us when they are told to by top managers like Wenger and Fergusson. Then they actually seem to quite enjoy it...
But the truth is that we have a horrible little stadium and no corporate hospitality facilities. Sheffield Wednesday had over 30,000 watching them on the weekend before they blew us out of the Championship and I bet all their executive boxes were full too - you can hire quite a lot of part time talent from gates like that.
But, hey, sod it. It nearly summer and Sussex are unbeaten...
 


Tony Meolas Loan Spell

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I thought DK got McShane and NOT MM. At least thats what DK said at a breakfast meeting at the beginning of the season.
 


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Lammy said:
This is a piss poor excuse. Look at the EXTRA cash we've raised since he's been here!

Play off final
Spurs away
Virgo
Cullip
Harding

We've never had so much money going into the club. This is far more that LDC is costing us.

The balance sheet is nothing to do with McGhee, you should be directing that one at the Chairman & the board.
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell

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34064 Fighter Command said:
The balance sheet is nothing to do with McGhee, you should be directing that one at the Chairman & the board.

Much as I hate Magoo (and I feel he is solely to blame for our relegation) I have to agree with that comment.
 
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Meade's Ball

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MM is not a man of natural charisma or charm (unless you love beige safari suits on the opening day of one season), so he is not someone to automatically admire or want to be. I can't remember him grasping my heart and making it beat a way i couldn't recall elswhere. If i met him in a pub, he'd stare at me for a moment or two until i apologised for the things i once thought or the man i will always fail to become.
It's a shame, but not something to directly lose him his job. Would be nice if i could imagine any connection there, but its his job to connect with footballers rather than me.
Somewhere, i'd probably, foolishly, prefer to meet Wayne Sleep hiding under the table in one pub.
 


Dave the OAP

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blockhseagull said:
You could say that MM actually has signed one of the best loan players to EVER play for us


who is that? Henderson?


I would have thought zamora was the best loanee we signed and that was Mickey Adams

Surely Sidwell is the best loanee we ever had.

Ingmarrsen was class too


Shame we couldnt afford them
 




blockhseagull

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Dies Irae said:
who is that? Henderson?


I would have thought zamora was the best loanee we signed and that was Mickey Adams

Surely Sidwell is the best loanee we ever had.

Ingmarrsen was class too


Shame we couldnt afford them

McShane.... and i said ONE OF THE BEST...NOT THE BEST
 


Lammy

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34064 Fighter Command said:
The balance sheet is nothing to do with McGhee, you should be directing that one at the Chairman & the board.

My point is there is no way he was on a smaller budget than other managers and yet they seem to have been able to attract players.
 






Dave the OAP

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blockhseagull said:
McShane.... and i said ONE OF THE BEST...NOT THE BEST


sorry...
 


Dave the OAP

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actually the best must be Keown really.

England International...world cup player
 


Marshy

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ive been pretty much supportive of Mcghee during the season, but now its over and the realism of league 1 football is with us.
I beleive a change in management is required.
If only to freshen it up again.
 


ditchy

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Jul 8, 2003
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Rougvie said:
The ONLY good thing about relegation is that there can be no excuses about MONEY, FACILITIES etc etc yada yada boring.

We have less debt that 90% of the other clubs in L1, we can compete with most of the clubs in L1 because of our excellent financial management, we have a stadium that is marginally better than many of the dumps that we will visit, oh and in case anyone has forgotten, its location is Brighton, one of the BEST places to live in the United Kingdom, sorry and before anyone can mention training facilities, at least we dont have to train in dog shit infested public parks like some of our rivals have to.

I'm sure McGhee will still come up with something tho.....

Have we a better stadium than alot of the champ 1 clubs .. im not so sure ?
 




Brighton Breezy

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Uncle Buck said:
Just out of interest, there is a section of our support that says the rather poor season we have just had is not the fault of McGhee and that it was other factors that lead to our demise.

So if this is the case, the promotion and then staying up last year were not down to him either.

If he wants the credit, he must also take the criticism.

Now which CLEVER person came up with THAT argument eh?;)
 


Scoffers

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ditchy said:
Have we a better stadium than alot of the champ 1 clubs .. im not so sure ?

Just what I was thinking, surely Withdean is THE WORST ground in the entire Football League
 


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