[Albion] Matt O Riley [26/08/24 - sings on a 5-year deal]

[Bakero]

Have you got defensive play stats too please eg tackling success?

In the pub. Wil share later

 

[Bakero]

I’m not saying Billy is either. In terms on keeping the ball and playing good passes he’s very good at it. Rodri is also a brilliant DM if not the best. It’s rare to find a player who is great at both.

Not many Rodris about. Every team would love to be able to play with a single pivot but it takes a beast of a player

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Have you got defensive play stats too please eg tackling success?

Underwhelmed.
Very interested in the above as well.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I’m not saying Billy is either. In terms on keeping the ball and playing good passes he’s very good at it. Rodri is also a brilliant DM if not the best. It’s rare to find a player who is great at both.

Rodri is double the size of WBG, can score goals and tackle whilst having the same passing ability. That’s why Rodri is world class and WBG will always have to fit in to a certain system rather than being brilliant in any team he plays for.

WBG was one of our best players last year in a system that sort of suited him (he could have done with an enforcer alongside him). This year? I can’t see it but thought he did well at the weekend once we’d got the goals we needed.

 

[Flounce]

This thread is moving into politics style territory, WBG fans and WBG needs improving on posters. I reckon not a single person on whatever side is going to change their mind.

Big WBG fan here, don’t waste your time trying to convince me that he needs replacing

I accept FH may be in the “get rid“ camp, hopefully not

 

[Change at Barnham]

For anyone who missed it, as posted by Couldn't Be Hyypia two weeks ago.....

 

[Blue3]

Being completely honest, how many games did gilmour actually control?

I think he's a good passer but rarely did I watch us last season and think gilmour ran that game.

I think WBG has been one of the first names on the team sheet but that was with a much weaker midfield options but he has not let us down however I tend to agree that rarely was he bossing the midfield and his shooting although better than my own was woeful

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

This thread is moving into politics style territory, WBG fans and WBG needs improving on posters. I reckon not a single person on whatever side is going to change their mind.

Big WBG fan here, don’t waste your time trying to convince me that he needs replacing

I accept FH may be in the “get rid“ camp, hopefully not

May well be.
Don’t particularly rate, but struggling to see if O’Riley is an improvement

 

[Weststander]

Underwhelmed.
Very interested in the above as well.

Also, the Celtic stats were largely against inferior opposition to that faced by Gilmour.

 

[Baldseagull]

Rodri is double the size of WBG, can score goals and tackle whilst having the same passing ability. That’s why Rodri is world class and WBG will always have to fit in to a certain system rather than being brilliant in any team he plays for.

WBG was one of our best players last year in a system that sort of suited him (he could have done with an enforcer alongside him). This year? I can’t see it but thought he did well at the weekend once we’d got the goals we needed.

I think this is it, Gilmour is great in a limited role, he isn't an all rounder, that can impose himself on any game.
O Riley is the player I think Moder could be, but isn't yet. Maybe good for Moder to go the other way, to replace O Riley, Celtic could well bring him on.

 

[Farehamseagull]

I picked those stats to counter the suggestion that Gilmour is a sideways-passing merchant. I assumed that was obvious.

In my previous post, I'd shared more stats highlighting the relative strengths and weaknesses of WBG and O'Riley.

Bravo on the use of merchant

Football Cliches?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Also, the Celtic stats were largely against inferior opposition to that faced by Gilmour.

Therein lies the problem. Unless we buy a proven player from the PL (unlikely) or La Liga or to a lesser extent the Bundesliga or Ligue 1, there will always have to be a greater leap of faith. The data is presumably all we have, unless Tony Bloom has another unseen angle!

 

[S'hampton Seagull]

Fairly relaxed on this one. If we get him then great, but also happy if WBG stays as he's never let us down and is a decent player in his own right.

 

[chaileyjem]

The best player in a Premier League match i watched yesterday was a young England midfielder who , until he was signed, spent most of last season playing football in the Championship and on the losing side v. the likes of Plymouth, Coventry and Huddersfield.
So all the pearl clutching cos we're after a young midfielder who has been playing and doing well against the likes of Ross County , Kilmarnock and St Mirren doesn't really stand up.

 

[chaileyjem]

Therein lies the problem. Unless we buy a proven player from the PL (unlikely) or La Liga or to a lesser extent the Bundesliga or Ligue 1, there will always have to be a greater leap of faith. The data is presumably all we have, unless Tony Bloom has another unseen angle!

So should we make a bid for Will Hughes ? - he's a proven centre midfielder for a top 10 PL side ?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

So should we make a bid for Will Hughes ? - he's a proven centre midfielder for a top 10 PL side ?

Too, um too palacey?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

The best player in a Premier League match i watched yesterday was a young England midfielder who , until he was signed, spent most of last season playing football in the Championship and on the losing side v. the likes of Plymouth, Coventry and Huddersfield.
So all the pearl clutching cos we're after a young midfielder who has been playing and doing well against the likes of Ross County , Kilmarnock and St Mirren doesn't really stand up.

May well do over a course of a season.

Last decent player to come south, VVD?
Any more recent, maybe McGinn? If you like cloggers.

PS - I’d fancy Coventry to beat a lot of the SPL teams

 

[martin tyler]

Rodri is double the size of WBG, can score goals and tackle whilst having the same passing ability. That’s why Rodri is world class and WBG will always have to fit in to a certain system rather than being brilliant in any team he plays for.

WBG was one of our best players last year in a system that sort of suited him (he could have done with an enforcer alongside him). This year? I can’t see it but thought he did well at the weekend once we’d got the goals we needed.

And I suppose that is what I’m saying. Billy is great at what he does. In a double pivot next to a real unit he offers a lot. This season in a single pivot I’m not sure myself where he fits in although like you thought he played well when it came down to it over the weekend. Rodri is the complete CM can do all jobs and tbh there isn’t many players like him if any about at the moment.

 

[severnside gull]

I do realise that players will leave and be replaced - but this is only normally good (unless you're getting £115M or something) if it means you are upgrading.
I'm not convinced that O'Riley is an upgrade on WBG. Still, perhaps he's taller.............................

If knowing where the goal is can be considered an upgrade then he probably qualifies

 

[severnside gull]

Im a little in your camp here... Ferdi is an absolute must as full back is a clear space but do we really need more creative midfielders and if we had them would it result in more unhappy players not getting enough game time? It's a niggle in the back of my head which Im drowning out with all the excitement. Still getting used to 'Brighton as a club known and loved all over the world'. Time was I mentioned Brighton and people said 'who? Why don't you support a REAL team'

…….true for the first 65 years of my life