Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Rugrat]

Well, like a lockdown but slightly less restricted - like the "half way house" thing you mentioned.

I also hope it will work but its going to be impossible to tell before the whole pandemic is over. I also believe that it is going to cost a lot of lives now (could see us being very high in deaths per capita when we reach the expected drop in May/June) but save us a lot of lives in the very likely second wave of the pandemic and in the possible third.

I'm not sure anything 'works' better than anything else, isn't it just a case of quicker vs slower?

When 'the whole pandemic is over' has to be when a vaccine is widely available I'd have thought ... can't see how it's over before then, but more than happy to be corrected

 

[ManOfSussex]

40 minutes on hold now - this is really going well.

I did happen to notice some quite large queues outside a couple of banks earlier and ATM's on the way home. Obviously the social distancing makes the queues appear longer, but it did make me wonder.

Anyone else noticed this today?

 

[Dr Bandler]

I'm not sure anything 'works' better than anything else, isn't it just a case of quicker vs slower?

When 'the whole pandemic is over' has to be when a vaccine is widely available I'd have thought ... can't see how it's over before then, but more than happy to be corrected

I think you are right. I have seen medical experts say that we will have rolling waves of shutdowns until a vaccine is issued and administered to around 60% of the population (I assume those without immunity). That is the only exit. The shutdowns are to prevent the health systems becoming overloaded. Until the vaccine the pandemic will not "be over."

 

[beorhthelm]

I think you are right. I have seen medical experts say that we will have rolling waves of shutdowns until a vaccine is issued and administered to around 60% of the population (I assume those without immunity). That is the only exit. The shutdowns are to prevent the health systems becoming overloaded. Until the vaccine the pandemic will not "be over."

thats the long term, for the short term the focus is getting healthcare ramped up. then we can ease restrictions go back to some normality and let infection spread. keep start stop on lockdown is not practical.

 

[Rugrat]

thats the long term, for the short term the focus is getting healthcare ramped up. then we can ease restrictions go back to some normality and let infection spread. keep start stop on lockdown is not practical.

Whilst I agree stop/start lockdown is impractical it does regulate the problem. I'm not sure that our healthcare system can be ramped up sufficiently to deal with anything else. It may not be numerous times but over the summer I was expecting another 2/3, not based on anything other than my own supposition

 

[ManOfSussex]

Despite being a key worker, I get the distinct impression I won't be WFH on my second hand laptop with the wrong charger, that doesn't work and that should only be set up in the office anytime soon.

It's a bit like some of the kids at work who were also issued with laptops today when I went in, who don't actually have the internet at home, as they just go online on their phones.

We're listed on the LSE and regulated by The FCA though, so I'm sure it'll all be rather lovely.

 

[The Wizard]

UK figures out soon.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

There's a video circulating with 2 housing officers in full protective gear, putting letters through everyones door in a block of flats, saying a man had died from Corona virus. People saw the man leave in a police car half an hour before, very suspicious.

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[The Wizard]

UK figures in total delayed

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Figures to now include deaths in the community as well as in hospital.

How will this affect the overall death toll I wonder?

 

[Birdie Boy]

It's a bit like some of the kids at work who were also issued with laptops today when I went in, who don't actually have the internet at home, as they just go online on their phones.

They can tether their laptops to their phone to use the phones Internet. Hopefully they have plenty of data on their phone plan though.


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[Notters]

I think you are right. I have seen medical experts say that we will have rolling waves of shutdowns until a vaccine is issued and administered to around 60% of the population (I assume those without immunity). That is the only exit. The shutdowns are to prevent the health systems becoming overloaded. Until the vaccine the pandemic will not "be over."

No I don't think that's true. Having had 60% (or whatever) of the population infected by the virus will have the same effect and is likely to happen long before a vaccine becomes available.

 

[RossyG]

No I don't think that's true. Having had 60% (or whatever) of the population infected by the virus will have the same effect and is likely to happen long before a vaccine becomes available.

We might even be nearly there now. I’ve a feeling this virus was at large sooner than first believed. Any deaths could well have been put down to flu and pneumonia.

 

[Notters]

We might even be nearly there now. I’ve a feeling this virus was at large sooner than first believed. Any deaths could well have been put down to flu and pneumonia.

Yep, me too. Here's hoping anyway.

 

[ManOfSussex]

They can tether their laptops to their phone to use the phones Internet. Hopefully they have plenty of data on their phone plan though.


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They'll need unlimited data if they do that, won't they? Unfortunately it doesn't stipulate in their work contracts what plans they needed from which mobile providers, or the need for WiFi at home. It's all going to be very hit and miss.

If I ever get set up, I'll be fine WFH in terms of fixed WiFi signal and working environment, but those in flats without desks and intermittent mobile signals and crying babies in the background won't.

 

[atomised]

180 deaths reported uk. Metro doing their best to put a different slant on the figures so.ehow claiming its 3 days in a row of figures going upwards

 

[dangull]

The UK doesn't seem to following the rate of increase as Italy and Spain, a good sign, but RIP to those significant number of people.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

180 deaths reported uk. Metro doing their best to put a different slant on the figures so.ehow claiming its 3 days in a row of figures going upwards

180? Wow, lower than expected and heartening in all respect to the evident tragedy.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

We might even be nearly there now. I’ve a feeling this virus was at large sooner than first believed. Any deaths could well have been put down to flu and pneumonia.

I agree with this, there was a wave of sickness at the turn of the year which have symptoms much like corona.

 

[The Wizard]

Italy on the 16th were on 2158 deaths, as of yesterday they are on 10779 deaths.
Spain on the 16th were on 342 deaths, they are now on 7500 deaths. What a shockingly horrible fast rise they’ve had.

UK looks to be on a better trajectory, still horrible but we are now nearly 800 deaths behind where Italy were, after initially being equal at one point, let’s be positive and hope we are doing something right. RIP to all those lost.