london no longer a british city discuss

[ostrich]

Liebour has let the country down they have at last admitted they have let all these :mendoza: in so they will vote Labour its a f***ing disgrace.Blair,Brown,Darling,Straw,Harperson hate the middle class hard working british and I hope Liebour never ever get power again the f***ing wankers.Just piss off you one eyed f***ing useless scottish wanker

 

[bagsy]

I have to laugh.........when it is in the UK ,,its is called racism!......but when we send boys and girls to the Afgan thats ok?......double standards..........its very easy to have an opinion when your sat at home in your cosy front room, infront of your 42" TV ........a big reality check is needed!

 

[ostrich]

you cant blame them for wanting to come here.....benefits,housing all given by liebour so they get the votes off them

 

[London Calling]

And why do you think that is? a part of the country with a high population of non-whites is obv not going to vote BNP, are they?

But surely the white enslave British would have the most anst in London, the fact is the BNP has little impact because we just get on with Living.

 

[London Calling]

you cant blame them for wanting to come here.....benefits,housing all given by liebour so they get the votes off them

If I haD THE OPTION, as a refugee I go to Sweden or Denmark , quality services, better housing, better benefits and stunning women.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I just checked wikipedia and was surprised to see it 26% immigrant pop. I saw a few pakistanis that was about it. I would imagine Norway is a pretty difficult country to immigrate not being in the EU . Are Pakistanis the modern day irish, they are everywhere.

An interesting article on attitudes of Norwegians to immigrants.

Statistics Norway: Attitudes towards immigrants and immigration - Xenophobia remains stable

... 83 per cent [of Norwegians] agree to the statement "All immigrants in Norway should have the same opportunities to have a job as Norwegians". This statement gathered most positive answers. Two thirds of the population agree that "Most immigrants make an important contribution in the Norwegian work life", and 70 per cent agree that immigrants enrich the cultural life in Norway.

... Nine out of ten would not be reluctant to have an immigrant as a neighbour. Nine out of ten would not have anything against having an immigrant as a home help themselves or in the close family. 58 per cent would not be reluctant if their son or daughter wanted to marry an immigrant.

... Two thirds of the adult population have contact with immigrants.

 

[auschr]

How much did joining the EU effect UK immigrant numbers? Norway isn't in the EU so their immigration is not as high as others, so I can see why they share those views. I do know that mentioning joining the EU is a big no-no among most socialist parties in Norway as they don't see it as democratic among other things. Norway is a nice place.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Immigration and emigration

My sisters' godmother comes from Norway. I speak to her regularly and there is no mention of immigration ruining her country.

 

[perth seagull]

London is a considered to be a "global city" and has all the characteristics of one. It is not your typical British village, so the xenophobes should get over it. "Global cities" are magnets for people all over the world and that is more a tribute to the city than a hindrance.

Global city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Global City or world city status is seen as beneficial, and because of this many groups have tried to classify and rank which cities are seen as 'world cities' or 'non-world cities'.[3] Although there is a consensus upon leading world cities,[4] the criteria upon which a classification is made can affect which other cities are included.[3] The criteria for identification tend either to be based on a "yardstick value" ("e.g. if the producer-service sector is the largest sector, then city X is a world city")[3] or on an "imminent determination" ("if the producer-service sector of city X is greater than the producer-service sector of N other cities, then city X is a world city").[3]

The characteristics sometimes chosen include

* International, first-name familiarity; whereby a city is recognized without the need for a political subdivision. For example, although there are numerous cities and other political entities with the name Paris or variations on it, one would say "Paris", not "Paris, France".
* Active influence on and participation in international events and world affairs; for example, Washington, Berlin, Brussels are major capitals of influential nations or unions.
* A fairly large population (the centre of a metropolitan area with a population of at least one million, typically several million).
* A major international airport that serves as an established hub for several international airlines, for example, London, Heathrow is the world's busiest by number of international passengers.
* An advanced transportation system that includes several highways and/or a large mass transit network offering multiple modes of transportation (rapid transit, light rail, regional rail, ferry, or bus).
* Cities which attract large foreign businesses and related expatriate communities; for example, Hong Kong, Moscow, Shanghai, Singapore and Tokyo. In the West, the related expatriate communities have names such as Chinatown, Little Italy and Tehrangeles; for example, New York City, Toronto, Tokyo, Mexico City and São Paulo.
* International financial institutions, law firms, corporate headquarters, international conglomerates, and stock exchanges (for example the World Bank, or the New York Stock Exchange) that have influence over the world economy.
* An advanced communications infrastructure on which modern trans-national corporations rely, such as fiberoptics, Wi-Fi networks, cellular phone services, and other high-speed lines of communications. For example, Seoul and Tokyo are known as the digital and technology capitals of the world.
* World-renowned cultural institutions, such as museums and universities.
* A lively cultural scene, including film festivals (such as the Berlinale or the Toronto International Film Festival), premieres, a thriving music or theatre scene (for example, West End theatre and Broadway); an orchestra, an opera company, art galleries, and street performers.
* Several powerful and influential media outlets with an international reach, such as the BBC, Reuters, The New York Times, or Agence France-Presse.
* A strong sporting community, including major sports facilities, home teams in major league sports, and the ability and historical experience to host international sporting events such as the Olympic Games, Football World Cup, or Grand Slam tennis events.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Had you took the time to listen to Nick griffin on QT, instead of shouting 'racist'...'facist' or any other abuse that you was shouting at you're TV, you would of heard him say that he does not want to kick anyone out for no apparent reason. Foreign criminals, then it's different. And shorely evan you would agree that they should not be here?

I like to see myself as being impartial, forgiving and open to various opinions, but Griffin's track record and his obvious dislike for anything 'non-white' leaves me in a difficult osition when it comes to impartiality.

He said he didn't want to kick any old sailor out, but his party politics would suggest otherwise. His party masquerades as a political party, but they do not have any policies other than the racial standpoint.

Of course foreign criminals should not be here, but I will be damned if I am voting for the BNP. Contrary to popular belief, the major parties do not want the same. Labour have let us down on that front, but that does not mean I would want to vote for a fascist party.

Incidentally, London may have plenty of 'non-white' faces in the centre (whether they be tourists or visitors or visiting London residents), but have you ever been to major cities throughout the world? It is the same.

The answer? Evolve and accept that we have a free market. Inclusion is the answer as opposed to marginalising 'johnny foreigner'.

 

[Gully]

The answer? Evolve and accept that we have a free market. Inclusion is the answer as opposed to marginalising 'johnny foreigner'.

Precisely, someone who is an immigrant to a country is more likely to make a valid contribution to their society if they feel welcome and included, if the opposite is the case then they will feel marginalised and are more likely to end up causing a problem than being a solution to one. The comments above about the attitude of Norwegians to immigrants makes a good point, is there any correlation between that view and the fact that their country is always higher up the list of best places to live than ours is, perhaps they are just more developed as a society than we are and are therefore reaping the benefits.

Let us not forget that many economic migrants to Britain have come here to fill a gap in the employment market, to fill positions that the native populace cannot or do not want to take. I have an NHS dentist who is Polish, my understanding is that not enough British people feel inclined to take this up as a profession hence the local health authority have hired someone from overseas, I have absolutely no problem with that and am grateful that he has chosen to practice in this country.

 

[El Presidente]

Because on the whole they actually don't like us. As I have said before people are tribal. Ethnic groups tend to stick together. They will also want to better there position in society. Groups pushing against other groups.

A sweeping generalisation if ever there was one.

Out of interest, why does Nick Griffin live in Wales, they do hate pasty faced white English twats there with good reason, not just because he is a racist.

 

[The Spanish]

An interesting article on attitudes of Norwegians to immigrants.

Statistics Norway: Attitudes towards immigrants and immigration - Xenophobia remains stable

... 83 per cent [of Norwegians] agree to the statement "All immigrants in Norway should have the same opportunities to have a job as Norwegians". This statement gathered most positive answers. Two thirds of the population agree that "Most immigrants make an important contribution in the Norwegian work life", and 70 per cent agree that immigrants enrich the cultural life in Norway.

... Nine out of ten would not be reluctant to have an immigrant as a neighbour. Nine out of ten would not have anything against having an immigrant as a home help themselves or in the close family. 58 per cent would not be reluctant if their son or daughter wanted to marry an immigrant.

... Two thirds of the adult population have contact with immigrants.

Comparing Britain to Norway is bonkers. The first industrialised nation with many cities with a history of extreme urban poverty, who had the worlds largest ever empire controlling countless millions of people

v a small population that up to very recently was mainly rural and borderline subsistence, who won an oil lottery.


its like asking why London is not as laid back as Brighton.

 

[The Spanish]

I've only ever lived in one part of London - and that for a very short period of my life. What is very noticeable to me about Rotherhithe (SE16) today is that the major "immigrant" community that I remember is hardly visible these days (although their church still dominates the centre).

Where have all those Norwegians gone?

I am pals with the Danish seamans pastor in Rotherhithe LB. I understand there he has equivilents for his brother nations too. f***ing hell he can have a drink for a vicar.

they look after the whole of the UK now, but Rotherhithe is still their traditional base.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

And why is that? Because the BNP want to kick the negroes, pakis, spades, ragheads and so on, out for no apparent reason?

I seem to recall that many Asians came here in the seventies because Idi Amin ethnically cleansed them from Uganda.

 

[El Presidente]

I seem to recall that many Asians came here in the seventies because Idi Amin ethnically cleansed them from Uganda.

Yup, Idi had a dream in which God spoke to him and told him to get rid of all the Asians in Uganda. About 30,000 of them came to the UK.

 

[coventrygull]

Yup, Idi had a dream in which God spoke to him and told him to get rid of all the Asians in Uganda. About 30,000 of them came to the UK.

and asians and africans love each other

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Comparing Britain to Norway is bonkers.

Most comparisons fall down at some point.

The reason I introduced Norway into this discussion is that the Norwegian community that I remember in 'my' part of London seemed to me to be totally integrated into local life - despite having its own social networks, separate recreational facilities and even a huge great place of worship that functioned entirely in a foreign language.

 

[coventrygull]

Isn't the progress party the second largest Party in Norway?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

According to Nick Griffin, i,m worried about that.

That's OK, BNP aren't a british party