Labours latest attempt to sell the lie that immigrants are not quejumping for housing

[looney]

BBC NEWS | Politics | Housing 'not favouring migrants'


This is quite laughable really, a leftwing think tank does research for the Equality commision(leftwing) for a leftwing government and comes up with the conclusion that immigrant que jumping for social housing is a myth.


Taking the basic figures. Without any mention of any growth in the housing stock "Just 11% of new arrivals get help with housing - almost all of them asylum seekers. "

Just 11%? With a weighting list of 4 million and immigration running close to 100,000 a year from non EU countries over 10 20 30 years that ads up to a hell of a lot.


Sadly this is why the BNP are now a mainstream party, even the governments bullshit doesn't make any sense.

 

[beorhthelm]

why do you not believe about the 11% yet believe the 4 million waiting list? just where does that number come from anyway?

 

[raymondbriggs]

i know you describe yourself as looney
but how f***ing looney do you have to be to describe Brown's thatcherite post blair new labour government as left wing?

you must have REALLY shat your pants over a trotskyite like Neil Kinnock

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

I have heard, not far from me, that two foreign couples have been able to obtain council housing because they are intending to buy in the future.

This may be scurrolous rumouring but the known facts could lead some to that conclusion.

 

[raymondbriggs]

I have heard, not far from me, that two foreign couples have been able to obtain council housing because they are intending to buy in the future.

This may be scurrolous rumouring but the known facts could lead some to that conclusion.

rules over right to buy make this f***ing unlikely,apart from the clawback clause on profit made in the first two years the right to buy discount of £38000 MAXIMUM(and peanuts compared to the markdown discount for investment properties having secure tenancies)makes any prompt purchase,to obtain a small portion of that maximum,in the climate of falling houe prices no massive incentive

 

[The Cardinal]

BBC NEWS | Politics | Housing 'not favouring migrants'


This is quite laughable really, a leftwing think tank does research for the Equality commision(leftwing) for a leftwing government and comes up with the conclusion that immigrant que jumping for social housing is a myth.


Taking the basic figures. Without any mention of any growth in the housing stock "Just 11% of new arrivals get help with housing - almost all of them asylum seekers. "

Just 11%? With a weighting list of 4 million and immigration running close to 100,000 a year from non EU countries over 10 20 30 years that ads up to a hell of a lot.


Sadly this is why the BNP are now a mainstream party, even the governments bullshit doesn't make any sense.

And of course no proof at all from you that immigrants do jump any lists. Still carry on with your shit stirring, it's always nice to see you in your true colours.

 

[raymondbriggs]

it's always nice to see you in your true colours.

some remember his true colours as a cut and paste merchant with a peculiar obssession of randomly posting disturbing excerpts from various gay porno sites.

 

[Dandyman]

some remember his true colours as a cut and paste merchant with a peculiar obssession of randomly posting disturbing excerpts from various gay porno sites.

You can take the freak out of the scouts, but you can't take the scouts...

 

[janee]

I work in housing and used to house people in a number of local authorities. The law is based on housing need not on race - if you are homeless and with kids/pregnant/disability/old then you get housed when one is available.

Immigrants are not entitled to permanent housing until a lengthy qualifying period.

That's the law - it pretty much favours British nationals

The main issue is that there is not enough housing - if there was, it wouldn't need to be rationed.

 

[NMH]

"the lie" is one that's constantly propagated by loser chavvy ne'er-did-wells who ALWAYS have to blame someone else for the predicaments they found themselves in. Usually sapping off the state for years on end, they still want to blame someone they don't like so that they don't have to dislike themselves for not getting an education... or a job... and having kids they can't afford....and losing money at the bookies...and wasting it down the local.... all the while lamenting their inability to climb the social or professional ladders that they don't even step onto rung number one of.

"it's the government, it's the coloureds, it's the whites, it's the pakkis, it's the Polish, it's the Arabs, it's everyone but me".

Congratulations on joining in their cause, malcontent looney.

 

[NMH]

I work in housing and used to house people in a number of local authorities. The law is based on housing need not on race - if you are homeless and with kids/pregnant/disability/old then you get housed when one is available.

Immigrants are not entitled to permanent housing until a lengthy qualifying period.

That's the law - it pretty much favours British nationals

The main issue is that there is not enough housing - if there was, it wouldn't need to be rationed.

Horse's mouth, pretty much.
Time the horse's arses stopped spewing their manure, really.

 

[Acker79]

Horse's mouth, pretty much.
Time the horse's arses stopped spewing their manure, really.

How rude!

I don't think you look like a horse, Janee.

 

[Ernest]

I work in housing and used to house people in a number of local authorities. The law is based on housing need not on race - if you are homeless and with kids/pregnant/disability/old then you get housed when one is available.

Immigrants are not entitled to permanent housing until a lengthy qualifying period.

That's the law - it pretty much favours British nationals

The main issue is that there is not enough housing - if there was, it wouldn't need to be rationed.

But if you didn't have homeless IMMIGRANTS jumping to the top of the queue then TRIED and tested ENGLISHMEN would get HOUSED

 

[looney]

why do you not believe about the 11% yet believe the 4 million waiting list? just where does that number come from anyway?

I do belive the 11% its the just part thats full of ironey, the figures are from the link on the BBC site.


Even with a 5 year qualifying period thats still a hell of a lot of people to let in without any increase in social housing.

 

[BensGrandad]

I have heard, not far from me, that two foreign couples have been able to obtain council housing because they are intending to buy in the future.

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I believe that councils/housing associations are trying to push the idea of part rent part buy for houses and as such are sending out mailshots inviting applications.

 

[The Spanish]

I would really love to see the conversation with African dominated housing departments in Soutwark or Bangladeshi run Tower Hamlets.

Right lads white working class people will get priority from now on. Are you happy with that?

hahahahahaha


The same Southwark council that has, with Harman's support, been pouring ethnics into Bermondsey and Rotherhithe as they see it as 'too white'.


f***ing idiots any of you that believe this bollocks.

 

[Dandyman]

I believe that councils/housing associations are trying to push the idea of part rent part buy for houses and as such are sending out mailshots inviting applications.

Which local authorities are doing this ? To exercise right to buy, someone would surely need to already be a tenant.

 

[The Spanish]

I work in housing and used to house people in a number of local authorities. The law is based on housing need not on race - if you are homeless and with kids/pregnant/disability/old then you get housed when one is available.

Immigrants are not entitled to permanent housing until a lengthy qualifying period.

That's the law - it pretty much favours British nationals

The main issue is that there is not enough housing - if there was, it wouldn't need to be rationed.

Tower Hamlets late eighties policy would drive a coach and horses through what you say. The One Offer Only policy to Bangladeshi immigrants that put them all on the Barkantine estate on the Isle of Dogs led DIRECTLY to Derek beackons election as Britains first BNP councillor. It favoured them over white British people wanting to stay within their commmunity. No one on the list until then had travelled 4000 miles to get there, for no other reason than the benefits system or a 'better life'. They had just had the misfortune to be British in an area of de-industrialisation. But f*** them eh.

Rightly or wrongly, whatever the Emperors New Clothes of housing policy, British people get f***ed over. Look at the redevelopment of the Heygate in Southwark or the Ferrier in Greenwich, I could go on if you like. Housing meant for British people, originally, not waifs and strays from war torn Horn of Africa or sierra Leone.

Depends on what your priorities are at the end of the day.

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

I work in housing and used to house people in a number of local authorities. The law is based on housing need not on race - if you are homeless and with kids/pregnant/disability/old then you get housed when one is available.

Immigrants are not entitled to permanent housing until a lengthy qualifying period.

That's the law - it pretty much favours British nationals

The main issue is that there is not enough housing - if there was, it wouldn't need to be rationed.

Case 1, Family of 4 from Africa, into HA home within 4 mths. Two sons, one in residential care for health reasons, other (younger) nearing 18. Apparently, from what they told neighbour, they wanted right to buy so arranged to move into 3 bedroomed CH in Coldean. They moved last week, nobody has moved in so not a 'swap'.

Case 2. Spanish guy, Polish wife, 2 young boys, obtained 3 bedroomed CH. Not from countries where you would expect asylem to be reason, not outwardly poor. Have also said they intend to buy.

Both the eabove have been good neighbours, certainly better than some 'home grown' and theremay (should) be some valid reasons why they have obtained housing where others have not. But people seeing these cases are bound to wonder.

 

[Scampi]

The problem with this report is that for some people it is an article of faith that immigrants jump the housing queue. Looney nicely illustrates this point, by dismissing the report out of hand because he disagrees with the conclusions and doesn't like the messengers.
It reminds me of the atttitude of creationists who aren't interested in evidence because their minds are already made up.