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- Thread starter Simster
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Strike
Sussex Border Front
looney said:What westdene said....
good that he makes the continual distinction between EU and Europe.
10/10
Simster your just a cardboard steriotype lefty. Your funniest when your pontificating.
What he said.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
Well-known member
Thanks for replying Westdene. when i say Europe i do mean the E.U. I wasn't implying that people want to row Britain away from the continent and drop anchor in the middle of the antlantic. And i'm not going to start calling you names either!
O.K, to respond to your points.
Whilst it needs a lot of work in sorting itself out, becoming transparent, less beareucratic(sp?!) and more representative I think what is at it's heart is a worthy ideal and is well worth working towards. You are always going to encounter problems in a project such as this and i think that they are kinks that will smooth out the longer the process goes on. As for corruption, show me a government anywhere that isn't.
What laws in Brussels are you talking about? Can you give me examples?
I don't think the countries you mention will 'jump' at the chance to work with us if we're not in the E.U. I think that working with countries such as China and the U.S we will have more leverage within the E.U.
i think that we would have more control of our future if we cede some sovereignty to the E.U than if we regain complete sovereignty. As i said before i think that if we go it alone, we will have very little influence on things outside of Britain, that when we need the big boys's help it will be on their terms and not ours. I think that being part of a bigger organisation will give us greater protection, greater leverage and ultimately greater wealth.
O.K, to respond to your points.
Whilst it needs a lot of work in sorting itself out, becoming transparent, less beareucratic(sp?!) and more representative I think what is at it's heart is a worthy ideal and is well worth working towards. You are always going to encounter problems in a project such as this and i think that they are kinks that will smooth out the longer the process goes on. As for corruption, show me a government anywhere that isn't.
What laws in Brussels are you talking about? Can you give me examples?
I don't think the countries you mention will 'jump' at the chance to work with us if we're not in the E.U. I think that working with countries such as China and the U.S we will have more leverage within the E.U.
i think that we would have more control of our future if we cede some sovereignty to the E.U than if we regain complete sovereignty. As i said before i think that if we go it alone, we will have very little influence on things outside of Britain, that when we need the big boys's help it will be on their terms and not ours. I think that being part of a bigger organisation will give us greater protection, greater leverage and ultimately greater wealth.
garry nelsons left foot said:
Basically, whilst the ideas of the project are sound, they will never benefit the people it was intended for - us. It only allows those in power to become yet more powerful, to control more people and their lives and above all become less and less accountable for their actions.
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hahaha strike accusing me of leftie shit
I know my stuff. Im sorry I dont usually sound arrogant but on this subject I know my stuff, and strike...im not gonna have my views dumbed down by you.
UKIP, and the essence of UKIP, are one of the reasons the Tory Party Imploded in the early 90s.
from a man who has an irrational hatred of french people, I dont think what I say should be dismissed as "leftie shit"
my ex gf was half portugese...she went off with some italian. Hasnt led me to hate either races...still respect europeans
Strike...how many UKIP candidates do you expect to retain their deposits then? 10, 7, 0?
the reason for UKIP's euro election success was partly due to the dire election turnout at european elections. Look at the result of the 1999 euro elections. The Tories performed the strongest...then did abysmally in 2001. UKIP came 3rd, they are gonna be waaaaaay off the scale. People use local/european elections as a protest vote..similar to by-elections. People will wake up to UKIP's awfulness by May
I know my stuff. Im sorry I dont usually sound arrogant but on this subject I know my stuff, and strike...im not gonna have my views dumbed down by you.
UKIP, and the essence of UKIP, are one of the reasons the Tory Party Imploded in the early 90s.
from a man who has an irrational hatred of french people, I dont think what I say should be dismissed as "leftie shit"
my ex gf was half portugese...she went off with some italian. Hasnt led me to hate either races...still respect europeans
Strike...how many UKIP candidates do you expect to retain their deposits then? 10, 7, 0?
the reason for UKIP's euro election success was partly due to the dire election turnout at european elections. Look at the result of the 1999 euro elections. The Tories performed the strongest...then did abysmally in 2001. UKIP came 3rd, they are gonna be waaaaaay off the scale. People use local/european elections as a protest vote..similar to by-elections. People will wake up to UKIP's awfulness by May
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
Well-known member
Westdene Seagull said:
Fair enough. I think we'll have to agree to disagree. Whilst I know that there are many problems-the two law examples you gave being good ones- they are only short term problems, IMO. I think that national governments sticking to their guns will ensure that the best possible deal will be reached. We're going to have to accept some crappy results in the short term to get to the positives of the future. I honestly believe that withdrawing from the E.U will harm Britain more than if we stay in and unify further, even with the drawbacks that this entails.
Strike
Sussex Border Front
I do not have an irrational hatred of French. Dunzebigc said:hahaha strike accusing me of leftie shit
I know my stuff. Im sorry I dont usually sound arrogant but on this subject I know my stuff, and strike...im not gonna have my views dumbed down by you.
UKIP, and the essence of UKIP, are one of the reasons the Tory Party Imploded in the early 90s.
from a man who has an irrational hatred of french people, I dont think what I say should be dismissed as "leftie shit"
my ex gf was half portugese...she went off with some italian. Hasnt led me to hate either races...still respect europeans
Strike...how many UKIP candidates do you expect to retain their deposits then? 10, 7, 0?
the reason for UKIP's euro election success was partly due to the dire election turnout at european elections. Look at the result of the 1999 euro elections. The Tories performed the strongest...then did abysmally in 2001. UKIP came 3rd, they are gonna be waaaaaay off the scale. People use local/european elections as a protest vote..similar to by-elections. People will wake up to UKIP's awfulness by May
I don't hate French people, just dislike them, the same way us Sussex folk dislike people from Croy***. If you went on a French footy board and said what do you think of the English, what answer would you get? Yes most would say they would dislike us. Don't see anything wrong about it.
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Brighton Breezy
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Strike said:
Strike
Sussex Border Front
Richie Morris said:
Brighton Breezy
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How many french people do you know Strike?
disgruntled h blocker
Active member
Strike said:
err... so we don't trade with the rest of the world? Utter nonsense!
Being in the EU is great for trade - we are in a free-trade zone, so no duties and tariffs to be paid.
It's scary how uneducated some people are!
Strike
Sussex Border Front
Does not matter Bigc got other matters to worry about at the mo, than answering to stupid responses on this board, good day to you mate. 
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