Jackson - NSC decides

[Normal Rob]

Given the binfest on the other thread i thought that i'd just run a poll as to what the great and the good of NSC think.

Simple question - do you believe that Michael Jackson was a paedophile.
Yes or no.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

Was he a paedophile? I think so.

Did he realise what he was doing was wrong - Probably not.

 

[alex_brighton]

YouTube - The Michael Jackson Interview part 1/9 Footage u weren't meant to see
(its in 9 parts)
watch this and make up your own mind up, after watching that i dont think he is.

 

[Wilko]

Do I believe he slept with a kid? no

Did he sleep in a bed with kids? Yes

Is this wrong? Yes

Is he a musical genius? Yes

 

[clapham_gull]

This has been done to death, but it is my duty as a fan to stick up for the legend.

No from me.

I would be inclined to suggest that anyone that says yes are the same people that read and believe that he was gay in todays Sun.

Would it be a problem if he was ?

 

[Jam The Man]

Just when i thought his death would mean i'd stop getting into arguments!

How wrong i was!

 

[Collar Feeler]

If he was a convicted paedophile would 'your duty as a fan' still include sticking up for him?

I never read the sun or any other tabloid but followed the various cases on a number of respected TV news channels over the years as well as numerous pro, anti and neutral websites and I have formed the opinion he had an unhealthy obsession with children bordering on dangerous. Was he a paedophile though? None of us really know for sure one way or the other. Was he a great musician and performer? Absolutely. Separate the two though because if you take away his undoubted talent and stardom and apply all the evidence and testimony against a normal everyday person, that person would without any doubt be labelled a paedophile by almost every person and treated as such in society.

 

[Normal Rob]

If he was a convicted paedophile would 'your duty as a fan' still include sticking up for him?

I never read the sun or any other tabloid but followed the various cases on a number of respected TV news channels over the years as well as numerous pro, anti and neutral websites and I have formed the opinion he had an unhealthy obsession with children bordering on dangerous. Was he a paedophile though? None of us really know for sure one way or the other. Was he a great musician and performer? Absolutely. Separate the two though because if you take away his undoubted talent and stardom and apply all the evidence and testimony against a normal everyday person, that person would without any doubt be labelled a paedophile by almost every person and treated as such in society.

are you a politician?

yes or no? was the question.

 

[drew]

This has been done to death, but it is my duty as a fan to stick up for the legend.

No from me.

I would be inclined to suggest that anyone that says yes are the same people that read and believe that he was gay in todays Sun.

You are one seriously sad person, you attack anyone that doesn't agree with you and suggest because of that they are just dumb sun readers.

Did Michael Jackson have any long term serious girlfriends, the sham marriages aside. No. Could this suggest he may have been a closet homosexual, possibly. Doesn' it matter? Not to most people but probably to you.

With regard to the poll, I think he was a paedophile based on the evidence and the circumstances he put himself in. Can it be proved, probably not. Do I read the Sun? No.

Threatening people with an insult if they disagree with you is surely a sign of insecurity!!!!!

 

[Collar Feeler]

are you a politician?

yes or no? was the question.

I don't care what the question was, I'll answer it as I see fit. Thats the internet for you.

 

[Normal Rob]

I don't care what the question was, I'll answer it as I see fit. Thats the internet for you.

ahh i see. You are a politician.

 

[Lokki 7]

Did he f*** kids up the bum? No, I don't think so. Did he like their company to a level that was inappropriate and possibly damaging for the kids? Yes.

Was probably also gay but as has been said, so what? Just sad he couldn't come to terms with it if true.

 

[readingstockport]

This has been done to death, but it is my duty as a fan to stick up for the legend.

No from me.

I would be inclined to suggest that anyone that says yes are the same people that read and believe that he was gay in todays Sun.

Or they have read the statement from one of the children he bought off, and there was more than one.

Michael Jackson's Other Legacy - June 25, 2009

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Did he f*** kids up the bum? No, I don't think so. Did he like their company to a level that was inappropriate and possibly damaging for the kids? Yes.

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Bullseye.

 

[Gritt23]

No, I'm convinced he was not.

Of course his behaviour at times was inadvisable, as it could be misconstrued, but he was child-like in his own thought processes at times.

As for the cases brought against him, just look at how many bull-shit rape claims are made against wealthy footballers in the Sunday papers. Baseless claims made against rich people in the hope that they just pay up to make the allegations fade away. For me, that was all that was happening with Jackson. When the kids he hung around with were rich already (that "Home Alone" kid) there never seemed to be any allegations.

He got on well with kids, because he missed his own childhood and found them far less judgemental than the rest of us. That makes perfect sense to me.

 

[beorhthelm]

Was he a paedophile? I think so.

Did he realise what he was doing was wrong - Probably not.

which doesnt change the fact that it was wrong. if it was anyone else's behaviour being questioned in the same way, this would be 99% paedo.

 

[Lokki 7]

Of course his behaviour at times was inadvisable, as it could be misconstrued, but he was child-like in his own thought processes at times.

I agree with you but even if the thought processes were childlike the behaviour was not acceptable.

For example. A bunch of 9 year olds have a sleep over and all decide to get their 'old men' out to compare. Not wholly unusual or damaging. Now imagine the same scenario in a 40 year old mans bedroom where said man is encouraging and joining in.

As childlike as MJ may have been, would you want your child exposed to that?

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

which doesnt change the fact that it was wrong. if it was anyone else's behaviour being questioned in the same way, this would be 99% paedo.

I agree with you. I think that if it were anyone else he would have been sectioned years ago for his own safety.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Two words: duck butter