Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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No idea why you are so intent on doffing the cap to some whiney Manc pub team who are taking themselves WAY too seriously. Care even less
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Have we had a more tiresome bunch of visiting fans than FCUM?
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No idea why you are so intent on doffing the cap to some whiney Manc pub team who are taking themselves WAY too seriously. Care even less
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
No idea why you are so intent on doffing the cap to some whiney Manc pub team who are taking themselves WAY too seriously. Care even less
maybe it's something totally "out there", like treating others (especially visitors to your own turf) like you'd like to be treated yourself? i hope they come down, create a cracking fa cup atmosphere, meet the locals, enjoy brighton and get played off the park.
raymondbriggs
New member
I dont know his motive either but.No idea why you are so intent on doffing the cap to some whiney Manc pub team who are taking themselves WAY too seriously. Care even less
that whiney Manc pub team have started at the bottom of the footie pyramid and are working their way up the leagues,they have a long way to go and will probably never get to the Premier League but they are trying and trying to build a ground of their own.
I admire them,some of us thought we would have to do the same till D.K. rescued us.
Agent_Torpor
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- May 1, 2009
- 150
My thoughts exactly. Self-righteous fuckwits wanted things their way, so they packed up the pram and started their own party. They can rot.
AFC Wimbledon, now that's a club I can safely quantify as having "noble" roots/
AFC Wimbledon, now that's a club I can safely quantify as having "noble" roots/
bhaexpress
New member
Whilst they have a point to make they haven't put it very well, a poor attitude from several posters who seem to think they have some devine rights thanks to being ex Man Utd fans. I don't have much sympathy now.
Nice to read a "well" informed comment
. A couple of FCUM supporters in Brighton would be back at OT in a shot if Glazers f***ed off and football made more affordable.
A good percentage of FCUM support never went to OT in the first place and only starting going to games because of what FCUM stands for. Yes a large proportion of our support are MUFC fans but I seriously doubt we would all f*** off back to OT.
If your looking for a reason why we are "different" to mainstream MUFC then read this...
FCUM Story
we are using this as an excuse if you beat us.
Win, lose or draw we will enjoy it, sing our hearts out, drink your pubs dry and NOT cause trouble. it would be nice if we could do this WITH the BHA fans with friendly banter, of course.
Well said. I didn't realise you guys did so much for your principles. Makes our friendly "invasion" of Rochdale pitch seem small fry to this and they make us Cat C. We should be scared of coming to you. We have quite a few Brighton fans who have been to several FCUM games and have been on our forum for ages and visit regularly for a chat. They have warned us that this forum does have it's fair share of ill-informed fans. Maybe some of the forumistas on here should read your post before critisizing us for what we have done. The phrase "double standards" comes to mind.
Glazer was the straw that broke the camel's back. We were disillusioned long before that.. sterile atmospheres, all seater stadiums, dodgy away ticket allocation (executives given priority), increased ticket prices, altered KO times for TV (especially United games), greedy players who have no rapport with fans, difficulty in getting tickets to take our kids to OT, overzealous stewarding, fans having no say in how club is run.
All the above are inherent at all clubs in the top flight and not just MUFC!
Contrast this with OUR Club: No Glazer type person.. WE are the owners (Our Club, Our Rules), we have fantastic atmospheres (see Rochdale game), we are not forced to sit (not all the time anyway), away tickets (BHA apart) are easy enough to get (clubs at our level welcome us with open arms as we generate much needed cash), it cost £7-8 to watch a game at our level (FC United offered season tickets on a pay what you can afford deal). We play at 3pm on saturday (apart from Rochdale game, we had no choice!). Our players are played pittance if at all. In fact after most games they can be seen mingling with the supporters in pubs getting pissed. It is easy and affordable to take the family to watch games (I have even seen babies in prams at Gigg Lane).
If this is being self-righteous then I am happy to be self-righteous.
To quote a scouser (not very often a manc would do this)
I'm just one of the people who stands on the ***. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It's a kind of marriage of people who like each other."
This is the relationship we have with our manager: Karl Marginson
Raymondbriggs I hope to see in Brighton and maybe we could have a few pints and you can tell me more of your exploits.
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I gave mine away aswell.
Poor sod he only got details of me at 2.35pm hope he got to ground OK.
Good tip about buying kids tickets. Might do that for a later round if you draw MUFC
livelylobster
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- Nov 19, 2010
- 36
Every woman, every man join the caravan of love. FC conga down Trafalgar street... Lord Nelson love-in. Wear flowers in your hair.
chimneys
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- Jun 11, 2007
- 3,605
I gave mine away aswell.
Poor sod he only got details of me at 2.35pm hope he got to ground OK.
Good tip about buying kids tickets. Might do that for a later round if you draw MUFC
Out of interest, you and others with tickets in the home end, will you/they be giving it the large one in the event you score?
I would usually but i understand and respect that im in the home end and plan on staying in the ground. I just want to be there for the game and not upset anyone and end up causing any trouble
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,319
Well the ESPN vid on FCUM made perfect sense to me and fair play to them. Some on here are being really harsh - so what if a lot of them were Man U fans - at least they were real Man U fans FROM Manchester?! They seem real football fans to me hence they don't care what lg the team they support are in!
The Ringleader Returns!
Banned
Just another club. Hope the fans have a good day. Hope we dick 'em on the pitch though. Some of their fans are twats, every club has twat fans.
Gazwag
5 millionth post poster
Its not the fact that they invaded the pitch that is the problem at all, its the way some of their fans come on here giving the big I am and sob story when all they have done is abandon their club without a fight and form their own. Maybe you need to read the other thread in detail.
We did all of the above to try and save our club and eventually won, then we had a huge fight for a real home and, maybe against the odds, we won again.
Its nothing to do with whether or not they are hooligans. They invaded the pitch and have suffered because of that with a reduced allocation.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
For tips on how to achieve this ... watch what happens at Southampton on Tuesday.
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/commshares/FCUM%20Business%20Plan%20Summary%202010.pdf - at least they have a viable business plan for their long term future - unlike a certain couple of larger neighbours.
Also forget the Wimbledon v Wimbledon scenario. If it all goes horribly wrong, there could
be this.....
FC United and Manchester United together (possibly) for the first time | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian
FC United and Manchester United together (possibly) for the first timeFC United are two wins away from a place in the third round of the FA Cup and a tie against the club they broke away from
FC United's manager Karl Marginson decribes the prospect of facing Manchester United as "mind-blowing"
It feels slightly outlandish, even bearing in mind everything we know about the FA Cup. Could it really be that FC United of Manchester are only two wins from a place in the third round and, whisper it, a possible date with Manchester United? The Red Devils against the Rebels. It is difficult to think there would ever be a tie laced with more intrigue, charm and fascination and maybe, from Sir Alex Ferguson, acrimony, too.
The king of the put-down has already pithily dismissed FCUM as "publicity seekers", so goodness knows what he will make of their first-round tie at Rochdale tonight being live on television. Ferguson has fallen out with the Manchester Evening News for giving 'Little United' what he perceives to be undue coverage. One reporter once asked for a comment about their success and a tribute for their driven, young manager, Karl Marginson. "Not interested! Not interested!" Ferguson thundered, and walked out of his press conference.
The bee in the Scot's bonnet can buzz out of control whenever FCUM are mentioned, which is strange because the people behind this breakaway movement still retain affection for the club they left behind. They just don't like the way the place is run and the way the supporters are treated. Their principles when it comes to the Glazer family and the rampant commercialism that drove FCUM's founders away from Old Trafford remain the same.
"Mind-blowing" is the word Marginson uses when he imagines the dream scenario of standing in the opposite dugout to Ferguson at Old Trafford. "But the away end would be empty. There's a saying among our fans: 'Not one penny more while Malcolm Glazer is at Old Trafford.' We'd turn up and play the match, but our fans wouldn't go. These people have principles. We'd play to the best of our ability, but we wouldn't sell any tickets."
There's a long way to go until then, of course, but they can be forgiven for allowing themselves to dream. This is the first time they have reached the first round and it represents possibly the biggest night in their five-year history. They will be backed by 3,200 of the fans who have abandoned United to follow this team of local lads across the villages and towns of northern England.
"We are United supporters, united as supporters," Alan Hargrave, a board member, says. "We try to follow the playing ethos of United. Some of us had 30 years following them home and away, going to places like Nou Camp. Now we're excited about going to Spotland [Rochdale's ground]. It's tremendous."
The aim, ultimately, is for Manchester to have three professional clubs. Marginson believes this is conceivable within the next five to 10 years. Plans have been submitted for a £3.5m stadium, so they can move away from playing at Bury's Gigg Lane (which costs £5,000 per game), with a decision on planning permission due on 25 November.
"We're no longer just a protest movement," Hargrave says. After three promotions, FCUM are now in the Evo-Stik League (formerly the Northern Premier), two divisions below the Football League. The general manager Andy Walsh remembers the club's first promotion from the North West Counties League Division Two: "We had an open-top bus ride, 200 yards to the nearest pub." Alan Gowling, a BBC Radio Manchester pundit, had said they would not last until Christmas, which has become the equivalent of Alan Hansen's 'you won't win anything with kids' moment. The club have printed T-shirts to that effect.
Marginson, 39, has been there since the start and now works for the club full-time, having given up his job as a fruit and veg delivery man. He first went to Old Trafford to see United play Everton in 1978. "Martin Buchan scored from 30 yards and I missed it because I'd left 10 minutes before the end and was at the bus stop." His last game was the 3-1 defeat to Chelsea in May 2005, shortly before the Glazers took over.
"Sir Alex Ferguson is the manager of Manchester United so he needs to look after their interests but, coming from Glasgow with his background in the shipyards and the trade unions, it's disappointing, and I would have done things very differently," he says.
"I would have walked away, personally. I'm not money-driven. I've got a car and a house, and it would be nice to earn a bit more, but if something like that happened [the Glazer takeover], I would have looked at the genuine fans – people I have grown up with – and I would have walked away. I would have said: 'Stuff it, I'm off.'"
The divisions FCUM have created are brilliantly encapsulated in Ken Loach's film Looking For Eric, when supporters of the two clubs become embroiled in a long and impassioned debate about the rights and wrongs.
"Sometimes, if you're in love with something, it's hard to see the bad side," Marginson says. "But football is about more than the 90 minutes. Football has a deeper responsibility to its communities and its fans and, excuse my French, but they're getting the piss taken out of them at Old Trafford."
Also forget the Wimbledon v Wimbledon scenario. If it all goes horribly wrong, there could
be this.....
FC United and Manchester United together (possibly) for the first time | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian
FC United and Manchester United together (possibly) for the first timeFC United are two wins away from a place in the third round of the FA Cup and a tie against the club they broke away from
FC United's manager Karl Marginson decribes the prospect of facing Manchester United as "mind-blowing"
It feels slightly outlandish, even bearing in mind everything we know about the FA Cup. Could it really be that FC United of Manchester are only two wins from a place in the third round and, whisper it, a possible date with Manchester United? The Red Devils against the Rebels. It is difficult to think there would ever be a tie laced with more intrigue, charm and fascination and maybe, from Sir Alex Ferguson, acrimony, too.
The king of the put-down has already pithily dismissed FCUM as "publicity seekers", so goodness knows what he will make of their first-round tie at Rochdale tonight being live on television. Ferguson has fallen out with the Manchester Evening News for giving 'Little United' what he perceives to be undue coverage. One reporter once asked for a comment about their success and a tribute for their driven, young manager, Karl Marginson. "Not interested! Not interested!" Ferguson thundered, and walked out of his press conference.
The bee in the Scot's bonnet can buzz out of control whenever FCUM are mentioned, which is strange because the people behind this breakaway movement still retain affection for the club they left behind. They just don't like the way the place is run and the way the supporters are treated. Their principles when it comes to the Glazer family and the rampant commercialism that drove FCUM's founders away from Old Trafford remain the same.
"Mind-blowing" is the word Marginson uses when he imagines the dream scenario of standing in the opposite dugout to Ferguson at Old Trafford. "But the away end would be empty. There's a saying among our fans: 'Not one penny more while Malcolm Glazer is at Old Trafford.' We'd turn up and play the match, but our fans wouldn't go. These people have principles. We'd play to the best of our ability, but we wouldn't sell any tickets."
There's a long way to go until then, of course, but they can be forgiven for allowing themselves to dream. This is the first time they have reached the first round and it represents possibly the biggest night in their five-year history. They will be backed by 3,200 of the fans who have abandoned United to follow this team of local lads across the villages and towns of northern England.
"We are United supporters, united as supporters," Alan Hargrave, a board member, says. "We try to follow the playing ethos of United. Some of us had 30 years following them home and away, going to places like Nou Camp. Now we're excited about going to Spotland [Rochdale's ground]. It's tremendous."
The aim, ultimately, is for Manchester to have three professional clubs. Marginson believes this is conceivable within the next five to 10 years. Plans have been submitted for a £3.5m stadium, so they can move away from playing at Bury's Gigg Lane (which costs £5,000 per game), with a decision on planning permission due on 25 November.
"We're no longer just a protest movement," Hargrave says. After three promotions, FCUM are now in the Evo-Stik League (formerly the Northern Premier), two divisions below the Football League. The general manager Andy Walsh remembers the club's first promotion from the North West Counties League Division Two: "We had an open-top bus ride, 200 yards to the nearest pub." Alan Gowling, a BBC Radio Manchester pundit, had said they would not last until Christmas, which has become the equivalent of Alan Hansen's 'you won't win anything with kids' moment. The club have printed T-shirts to that effect.
Marginson, 39, has been there since the start and now works for the club full-time, having given up his job as a fruit and veg delivery man. He first went to Old Trafford to see United play Everton in 1978. "Martin Buchan scored from 30 yards and I missed it because I'd left 10 minutes before the end and was at the bus stop." His last game was the 3-1 defeat to Chelsea in May 2005, shortly before the Glazers took over.
"Sir Alex Ferguson is the manager of Manchester United so he needs to look after their interests but, coming from Glasgow with his background in the shipyards and the trade unions, it's disappointing, and I would have done things very differently," he says.
"I would have walked away, personally. I'm not money-driven. I've got a car and a house, and it would be nice to earn a bit more, but if something like that happened [the Glazer takeover], I would have looked at the genuine fans – people I have grown up with – and I would have walked away. I would have said: 'Stuff it, I'm off.'"
The divisions FCUM have created are brilliantly encapsulated in Ken Loach's film Looking For Eric, when supporters of the two clubs become embroiled in a long and impassioned debate about the rights and wrongs.
"Sometimes, if you're in love with something, it's hard to see the bad side," Marginson says. "But football is about more than the 90 minutes. Football has a deeper responsibility to its communities and its fans and, excuse my French, but they're getting the piss taken out of them at Old Trafford."
Bring some flares, I loved that sketch at Eastlands in protest at that 'Blue Moon' bollocks.......wait, wrong club, whatever - bring some anyway