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Colossal Squid

Returning video tapes
Feb 11, 2010
4,906
Under the sea
Stop changing the point of the debate, either you want the money back to the government, with interest, or you are just bleating about banks or big business in general because your father his father etc etc were staunch labour out of some historical inbuilt snobbery about anyone who has aspired or actually achieved a decent lifestyle and has a different view of life and politics as a result.

a) I'm not changing the debate, just responding to a point made.

b) I'm not a Labour supporter.

As much as I despise benefit cheats and the workshy, as has been pointed out the money they cost the UK is trivial when compared with the money we've lost to incompetent banking institutions in bailouts and lost tax revenue. Are you really trying to dispute these facts?

Vast swathes of the UK's workforce don't earn anywhere near enough money to live comfortably and this results in welfare payments for housing benefit and various tax credits being paid out left, right and centre. Imagine the administration and cost we could save if we either ensured these people were paid a fair wage in the first place, by organisations more than capable of paying, OR we simply didn't tax them until they earned enough. The current system whereby everyone has to pay tax and then millions reclaim it in various unnecessarily complicated welfare schemes is bloated, convoluted and wasteful. Meanwhile billions in revenue is lost to selfish greedy corporations ripping the country off by not paying their taxes.

There is no way of dressing it up. THIS IS RETARDED
 


Tony Towner's Fridge

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2003
5,523
GLASGOW,SCOTLAND,UK
If the growth expected does show, it'll be in spite of the "worst chancellor in living memory". I think even his own party know that

Your memory must be bad

Darling and before that Brown were the part architects of the current situation. In no way does George Osborne come near them for incompetency. The coalition have stuck to their guns , not always popular to all. Still a long way to go but the age old adage of there never being a decent fiscally prudent Labour Government most certainly stands true.

TNBA

TTF
 


bennibenj

Well-known member
Mar 6, 2011
2,063
Sompting
That's a nonsense, though, because:
1. people move in and out of benefits. What are they supposed to do: if their hours drop and they move on to benefits, kill the first born?
2. most people on benefits are the working poor, whose wages are so low they are entitled to benefits. The logic of this position is basically social cleansing; only the middle-income middle-classes and people with unearned wealth should have kids (Personally, I think it should be more of a priority to ensure people are paid a living wage, which probably makes me a loony lefty)
3. People who are seriously poor are generally in poorer health and live shorter lives (This doesn't apply to everyone on benefits in the UK, clearly). There's loads of evidence that, as a species, we have more children in these circumstances, almost certainly because it's the best chance of passing on our genes. Look how birth rates go down as nations get richer. It's not down to economic incentives or what politicians say, it's what we're like.

Sorry but imho thats rubbish. There are large numbers of people who cannot be arsed to work, kids on a production line and expect everything for nothing. I believe those cretins are the ones who piss the workers off, not those who genuinely work but all be it on a minimal wage, personally, if someone on minimum wage gets support through benefits, there is no problem.

Round up all the unemployed people WHO DO NOT WANT TO WORK, not those who are unemployed and WANT to work. Prevent them having kids and becoming more burden on the economy. Anyone who works OR IS LOOKING FOR WORK should be allowed to have kids. James Whale said it once and I agree, a license to have Kids would be good. RSPCA come round to inspect a property before rehoming a dog but any Shantelle, Courtney or Tyrone can have 20 kids at a time.
 






Colossal Squid

Returning video tapes
Feb 11, 2010
4,906
Under the sea
The coalition have stuck to their guns , not always popular to all.

That's a good one!

Here is a list of all the coalition's U-turns up to June of this year:

31 May 2012: charitable donations. In the 2012 budget, George Osborne, the chancellor, announced he would cap tax relief on charitable donations at £50,000 or 25% of income. This was greeted by protests from charities, which warned they could lose a significant proportion of their income and suggested the policy went against the principle of David Cameron's "big society". It was scrapped two months later.

30 May 2012: buzzards. The environment department had planned to destroy buzzards' nests to protect pheasant shoots. The proposal caused uproar among conservationists, who said the government itself admitted it was based only on anecdotal evidence.

28 May 2012: pasty tax. Also in the budget, Osborne announced plans to charge VAT on food designed to cool down, such as sausage rolls and pasties, prompting protests in Cornwall, claims that ministers were "out of touch", and embarrassing photo-opportunities and press conferences as politicians of all stripes rushed to prove they loved eating pasties and sausage rolls. The plan was scrapped two months later.

28 May 2012: caravan tax. The budget also levied VAT on static caravans. Again the government was accused of being out of touch with ordinary people, and was subject to fierce lobbying from the Caravan Club. Two months later the new VAT rate was cut from 20% to 5%.

28 May 2012: secret courts. A government green paper on keeping evidence from the security services secret was watered down following opposition from the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg.

15 May 2012: Scottish independence referendum. Scottish Tories were furious after David Cameron said he was not "too fussy" about the date of the referendum – in effect disowning the previous Conservative line that a plebiscite must be held within two years.

9 May 2012: Joint Strike Fighter. The coalition had replaced Labour plans to buy a jump jet for the Royal Navy's new aircraft carriers, instead plumping for a "cats and traps" model that could catapult and recover a version of the Joint Strike Fighter. But the JSF model the coalition wanted became beset by delays and technical problems, meaning the government had to revert to Labour's plans.

5 May 2012: unannounced Ofsted inspections. The chief inspector of schools announced in January 2012 the introduction of no-notice inspections, but Michael Gove, the education secretary, backed down a few months later following protests from headteachers, and admitted there was a perception that Ofsted was becoming "an arm of the Spanish Inquisition".

21 March 2012: video games tax relief. In the March 2010 budget, Labour promised the same sort of tax relief for the video games industry that the film sector gets, but this was scrapped when the coalition came to power. Two years later Osborne changed his mind.

1 December 2011: Disability Living Allowance. The government announced plans in the 2010 spending review to cut the "mobility" part of DLA, worth £51 a week, for those in residential care, but after criticism that this was "callous" dropped the plans the following year.

23 November 2011: chief coroner. Kenneth Clarke, the justice secretary, scrapped plans to abolish the post of chief coroner after a year-long campaign to save the post by the Royal British Legion.

23 November 2011: Youth Justice Board. The board was supposed to be scrapped in the government's "bonfire of the quangos", but in the face of opposition ministers changed their minds.

17 November 2011: NHS waiting times. Andrew Lansley, the health secretary, had criticised waiting time targets as unnecessary and bureaucratic, but in the face of evidence that waiting times were creeping up he introduced a new rule to halt the growing number of patients not being treated within the 18 weeks guaranteed under the NHS constitution.

14 July 2011: coastguard centres. The government had planned to reduce the number of coastguard centres from 18 to eight, with only three open 24 hours a day, but partially backtracked, changing the plans to ensure 10 would stay open 24 hours a day.

22 June 2011: BBC World Service. William Hague, the foreign secretary, partially reversed huge cuts to World Service funding by announcing an extra £2.2m a year for the BBC's Arabic Service. A report on the Foreign Office website: "Massive U-turn on BBC World Service funding."

21 June 2011: sentencing discounts. Cameron abandoned plans to offer a 50% sentence discount to offenders who submitted early guilty pleas after tabloid criticisms of "soft justice".

13 May 2011: circus animals. The government replaced a proposed ban on wild animals in circuses with new licensing conditions.

17 February 2011: housing benefit cut. The government announced a 10% cut in housing benefit for anyone unemployed for more than a year in the June 2010 budget. Clegg feared that private sector landlords might be reluctant to rent to jobseeker's allowance claimants if their housing benefit was at risk, and the following spring the plans were dropped.

17 February 2011: selling off the forests. "We got this one wrong," said the environment secretary, Caroline Spelman, when she abandoned plans to sell 258,000 hectares of state-owned woodland in England only one month after they had been announced.

12 February 2011: Financial Inclusion Fund. In January 2011 the government said it would axe a £27m-a-year scheme paying for specialist debt advisers. Campaigners said this could lead to ill or vulnerable people lacking help dealing with serious debt. A month later the government said the service would continue for another year; it has now been replaced by the Face to Face debt advice programme.

9 February 2011: military covenant. In June 2010 Cameron said a promise of duty of care in return for the military's sacrifices would be enshrined in law. But the armed forces bill eventually published required the Ministry of Defence only to produce an annual report on the covenant.

26 December 2010: Bookstart. Writers such as Philip Pullman and Andrew Motion protested in December 2010 after the government announced plans to scrap a scheme providing free books for children, and a few days later the plan was abandoned. However, two months later it was announced that Bookstart would lose half its funding.

20 December 2010: school sports. In October 2010 Gove announced that the education department would no longer fund the £162m-a-year school sport partnerships. After heavy criticism from headteachers, Olympic sportspeople, Labour, young people and others, two months later Gove backtracked and said he had found £112m to keep the system going.

25 November 2010: domestic violence. Theresa May, the home secretary, announced in July 2010 she would abandon a scheme to remove violent partners from the family home. After pressure from charities she performed a U-turn four months later.

16 November 2010: photographer and camerawoman on the public payroll. Andrew Parsons was Cameron's personal photographer before he became prime minister, and Nicky Woodhouse made "Webcameron" videos for the Tory website, but there was an outcry when they were placed on the public payroll when the Tories took office. Cameron defended this as a cost-saving measure, but a few days later decided the Conservative party would pay their salaries.

12 November 2010: rape anonymity. In the coalition agreement in May 2010, the Tories and Liberal Democrats had suggested extending anonymity in rape cases to defendants. After protests from women's groups, who said it would have sent a message to juries that victims in rape cases should not be believed, five months later the government said there was not sufficient evidence to justify the move and scrapped it.

9 September 2010: NHS Direct. In August 2010 the Department of Health said the NHS Direct service would be scrapped. A month later Lansley said the department just meant the phone number.

8 August 2010: free school milk. Anne Milton, a Tory health minister, suggested withdrawing the scheme that gives free school milk to under-fives. The idea was quickly stamped on by No 10 – presumably because of its echoes of Margaret Thatcher's scrapping of free milk for seven- to 11-year-olds in 1971.

5 July 2010: dissolution of parliament. In what was greeted with delight by the media as the first big U-turn of the coalition, the government's plans to block the dissolution of parliament without the agreement of at least 55% of MPs were altered to allow a simple majority of MPs to trigger such a dissolution.


Didn't really think it through did you?
 


The Maharajah of Sydney

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
1,387
Sydney .
Thanks. I know I've worked in the city a long time (only in IT, but still), but I've yet to find a decent daily events schedule for the city, e.g. US non-farm figures, UK GDP etc. Would be useful if only for my FTSE spread betting.


Try this - an economic calender that also gives you the actual 'live' release with an optional sound notification ;

Economic Calendar

Click on Show Filters for country and category preference .
 




D

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Guest
And well done to the Gov for putting an upper limit on the amount of our cash given to those not working.

There are too many work shy lazy lumps sitting around taken the piss out of those of us that pay our way.

TB

Still not enough if my opinion. Benefits should only go to people who have paid in the system, i.e worked and fallen on bad times or have a got a proper illness that stops them from working. I don't think anybody minds this.

Benefits should certainly not be given to people from the EU or outside the EU, without a work record in the UK to back this up. i.e nobody should be entitled to it unless they have paid in to the system for x amount of years. Reason being I think the benefits in this country are too generous and in some cases we have been taken for a ride.

Same should be for our services, i.e Doctors, Hospitals, Schools and other services, people should be paying for this treatment or alternatively paying a bit more tax when they arrive in this country and after (x) amount of years this them becomes free.

Finally anyone from outside the EU must have the funds to support themselves so that they don't become a burden on the system the moment they walk through the door.
 








Tubby Mondays

Well-known member
Dec 8, 2005
3,101
A Crack House
That's a good one!

Here is a list of all the coalition's U-turns up to June of this year:

31 May 2012: charitable donations. In the 2012 budget, George Osborne, the chancellor, announced he would cap tax relief on charitable donations at £50,000 or 25% of income. This was greeted by protests from charities, which warned they could lose a significant proportion of their income and suggested the policy went against the principle of David Cameron's "big society". It was scrapped two months later.

30 May 2012: buzzards. The environment department had planned to destroy buzzards' nests to protect pheasant shoots. The proposal caused uproar among conservationists, who said the government itself admitted it was based only on anecdotal evidence.

28 May 2012: pasty tax. Also in the budget, Osborne announced plans to charge VAT on food designed to cool down, such as sausage rolls and pasties, prompting protests in Cornwall, claims that ministers were "out of touch", and embarrassing photo-opportunities and press conferences as politicians of all stripes rushed to prove they loved eating pasties and sausage rolls. The plan was scrapped two months later.

28 May 2012: caravan tax. The budget also levied VAT on static caravans. Again the government was accused of being out of touch with ordinary people, and was subject to fierce lobbying from the Caravan Club. Two months later the new VAT rate was cut from 20% to 5%.

28 May 2012: secret courts. A government green paper on keeping evidence from the security services secret was watered down following opposition from the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg.

15 May 2012: Scottish independence referendum. Scottish Tories were furious after David Cameron said he was not "too fussy" about the date of the referendum – in effect disowning the previous Conservative line that a plebiscite must be held within two years.

9 May 2012: Joint Strike Fighter. The coalition had replaced Labour plans to buy a jump jet for the Royal Navy's new aircraft carriers, instead plumping for a "cats and traps" model that could catapult and recover a version of the Joint Strike Fighter. But the JSF model the coalition wanted became beset by delays and technical problems, meaning the government had to revert to Labour's plans.

5 May 2012: unannounced Ofsted inspections. The chief inspector of schools announced in January 2012 the introduction of no-notice inspections, but Michael Gove, the education secretary, backed down a few months later following protests from headteachers, and admitted there was a perception that Ofsted was becoming "an arm of the Spanish Inquisition".

21 March 2012: video games tax relief. In the March 2010 budget, Labour promised the same sort of tax relief for the video games industry that the film sector gets, but this was scrapped when the coalition came to power. Two years later Osborne changed his mind.

1 December 2011: Disability Living Allowance. The government announced plans in the 2010 spending review to cut the "mobility" part of DLA, worth £51 a week, for those in residential care, but after criticism that this was "callous" dropped the plans the following year.

23 November 2011: chief coroner. Kenneth Clarke, the justice secretary, scrapped plans to abolish the post of chief coroner after a year-long campaign to save the post by the Royal British Legion.

23 November 2011: Youth Justice Board. The board was supposed to be scrapped in the government's "bonfire of the quangos", but in the face of opposition ministers changed their minds.

17 November 2011: NHS waiting times. Andrew Lansley, the health secretary, had criticised waiting time targets as unnecessary and bureaucratic, but in the face of evidence that waiting times were creeping up he introduced a new rule to halt the growing number of patients not being treated within the 18 weeks guaranteed under the NHS constitution.

14 July 2011: coastguard centres. The government had planned to reduce the number of coastguard centres from 18 to eight, with only three open 24 hours a day, but partially backtracked, changing the plans to ensure 10 would stay open 24 hours a day.

22 June 2011: BBC World Service. William Hague, the foreign secretary, partially reversed huge cuts to World Service funding by announcing an extra £2.2m a year for the BBC's Arabic Service. A report on the Foreign Office website: "Massive U-turn on BBC World Service funding."

21 June 2011: sentencing discounts. Cameron abandoned plans to offer a 50% sentence discount to offenders who submitted early guilty pleas after tabloid criticisms of "soft justice".

13 May 2011: circus animals. The government replaced a proposed ban on wild animals in circuses with new licensing conditions.

17 February 2011: housing benefit cut. The government announced a 10% cut in housing benefit for anyone unemployed for more than a year in the June 2010 budget. Clegg feared that private sector landlords might be reluctant to rent to jobseeker's allowance claimants if their housing benefit was at risk, and the following spring the plans were dropped.

17 February 2011: selling off the forests. "We got this one wrong," said the environment secretary, Caroline Spelman, when she abandoned plans to sell 258,000 hectares of state-owned woodland in England only one month after they had been announced.

12 February 2011: Financial Inclusion Fund. In January 2011 the government said it would axe a £27m-a-year scheme paying for specialist debt advisers. Campaigners said this could lead to ill or vulnerable people lacking help dealing with serious debt. A month later the government said the service would continue for another year; it has now been replaced by the Face to Face debt advice programme.

9 February 2011: military covenant. In June 2010 Cameron said a promise of duty of care in return for the military's sacrifices would be enshrined in law. But the armed forces bill eventually published required the Ministry of Defence only to produce an annual report on the covenant.

26 December 2010: Bookstart. Writers such as Philip Pullman and Andrew Motion protested in December 2010 after the government announced plans to scrap a scheme providing free books for children, and a few days later the plan was abandoned. However, two months later it was announced that Bookstart would lose half its funding.

20 December 2010: school sports. In October 2010 Gove announced that the education department would no longer fund the £162m-a-year school sport partnerships. After heavy criticism from headteachers, Olympic sportspeople, Labour, young people and others, two months later Gove backtracked and said he had found £112m to keep the system going.

25 November 2010: domestic violence. Theresa May, the home secretary, announced in July 2010 she would abandon a scheme to remove violent partners from the family home. After pressure from charities she performed a U-turn four months later.

16 November 2010: photographer and camerawoman on the public payroll. Andrew Parsons was Cameron's personal photographer before he became prime minister, and Nicky Woodhouse made "Webcameron" videos for the Tory website, but there was an outcry when they were placed on the public payroll when the Tories took office. Cameron defended this as a cost-saving measure, but a few days later decided the Conservative party would pay their salaries.

12 November 2010: rape anonymity. In the coalition agreement in May 2010, the Tories and Liberal Democrats had suggested extending anonymity in rape cases to defendants. After protests from women's groups, who said it would have sent a message to juries that victims in rape cases should not be believed, five months later the government said there was not sufficient evidence to justify the move and scrapped it.

9 September 2010: NHS Direct. In August 2010 the Department of Health said the NHS Direct service would be scrapped. A month later Lansley said the department just meant the phone number.

8 August 2010: free school milk. Anne Milton, a Tory health minister, suggested withdrawing the scheme that gives free school milk to under-fives. The idea was quickly stamped on by No 10 – presumably because of its echoes of Margaret Thatcher's scrapping of free milk for seven- to 11-year-olds in 1971.

5 July 2010: dissolution of parliament. In what was greeted with delight by the media as the first big U-turn of the coalition, the government's plans to block the dissolution of parliament without the agreement of at least 55% of MPs were altered to allow a simple majority of MPs to trigger such a dissolution.


Didn't really think it through did you?

Good hit!

Add to that the badger cull this week.
 




D

Deleted member 22389

Guest
I'm sure Foam Mouth and Balls will have an answer for all this. I hope Labour stay well clear of running this country, however I have a bad feeling they might get back in.

All the time they spout this rubbish that The Tories only care about rich people, and the Tories are evil, the more people will fall for it. We can all agree that too much money has gone out of the system for years and has been given to people who should have absolutely no rights to it, while the rest of us keep paying taxes.
 






somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
That's a good one!

Here is a list of all the coalition's U-turns up to June of this year:

31 May 2012: charitable donations. In the 2012 budget, George Osborne, the chancellor, announced he would cap tax relief on charitable donations at £50,000 or 25% of income. This was greeted by protests from charities, which warned they could lose a significant proportion of their income and suggested the policy went against the principle of David Cameron's "big society". It was scrapped two months later.

30 May 2012: buzzards. The environment department had planned to destroy buzzards' nests to protect pheasant shoots. The proposal caused uproar among conservationists, who said the government itself admitted it was based only on anecdotal evidence.

28 May 2012: pasty tax. Also in the budget, Osborne announced plans to charge VAT on food designed to cool down, such as sausage rolls and pasties, prompting protests in Cornwall, claims that ministers were "out of touch", and embarrassing photo-opportunities and press conferences as politicians of all stripes rushed to prove they loved eating pasties and sausage rolls. The plan was scrapped two months later.

28 May 2012: caravan tax. The budget also levied VAT on static caravans. Again the government was accused of being out of touch with ordinary people, and was subject to fierce lobbying from the Caravan Club. Two months later the new VAT rate was cut from 20% to 5%.

28 May 2012: secret courts. A government green paper on keeping evidence from the security services secret was watered down following opposition from the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg.

15 May 2012: Scottish independence referendum. Scottish Tories were furious after David Cameron said he was not "too fussy" about the date of the referendum – in effect disowning the previous Conservative line that a plebiscite must be held within two years.

9 May 2012: Joint Strike Fighter. The coalition had replaced Labour plans to buy a jump jet for the Royal Navy's new aircraft carriers, instead plumping for a "cats and traps" model that could catapult and recover a version of the Joint Strike Fighter. But the JSF model the coalition wanted became beset by delays and technical problems, meaning the government had to revert to Labour's plans.

5 May 2012: unannounced Ofsted inspections. The chief inspector of schools announced in January 2012 the introduction of no-notice inspections, but Michael Gove, the education secretary, backed down a few months later following protests from headteachers, and admitted there was a perception that Ofsted was becoming "an arm of the Spanish Inquisition".

21 March 2012: video games tax relief. In the March 2010 budget, Labour promised the same sort of tax relief for the video games industry that the film sector gets, but this was scrapped when the coalition came to power. Two years later Osborne changed his mind.

1 December 2011: Disability Living Allowance. The government announced plans in the 2010 spending review to cut the "mobility" part of DLA, worth £51 a week, for those in residential care, but after criticism that this was "callous" dropped the plans the following year.

23 November 2011: chief coroner. Kenneth Clarke, the justice secretary, scrapped plans to abolish the post of chief coroner after a year-long campaign to save the post by the Royal British Legion.

23 November 2011: Youth Justice Board. The board was supposed to be scrapped in the government's "bonfire of the quangos", but in the face of opposition ministers changed their minds.

17 November 2011: NHS waiting times. Andrew Lansley, the health secretary, had criticised waiting time targets as unnecessary and bureaucratic, but in the face of evidence that waiting times were creeping up he introduced a new rule to halt the growing number of patients not being treated within the 18 weeks guaranteed under the NHS constitution.

14 July 2011: coastguard centres. The government had planned to reduce the number of coastguard centres from 18 to eight, with only three open 24 hours a day, but partially backtracked, changing the plans to ensure 10 would stay open 24 hours a day.

22 June 2011: BBC World Service. William Hague, the foreign secretary, partially reversed huge cuts to World Service funding by announcing an extra £2.2m a year for the BBC's Arabic Service. A report on the Foreign Office website: "Massive U-turn on BBC World Service funding."

21 June 2011: sentencing discounts. Cameron abandoned plans to offer a 50% sentence discount to offenders who submitted early guilty pleas after tabloid criticisms of "soft justice".

13 May 2011: circus animals. The government replaced a proposed ban on wild animals in circuses with new licensing conditions.

17 February 2011: housing benefit cut. The government announced a 10% cut in housing benefit for anyone unemployed for more than a year in the June 2010 budget. Clegg feared that private sector landlords might be reluctant to rent to jobseeker's allowance claimants if their housing benefit was at risk, and the following spring the plans were dropped.

17 February 2011: selling off the forests. "We got this one wrong," said the environment secretary, Caroline Spelman, when she abandoned plans to sell 258,000 hectares of state-owned woodland in England only one month after they had been announced.

12 February 2011: Financial Inclusion Fund. In January 2011 the government said it would axe a £27m-a-year scheme paying for specialist debt advisers. Campaigners said this could lead to ill or vulnerable people lacking help dealing with serious debt. A month later the government said the service would continue for another year; it has now been replaced by the Face to Face debt advice programme.

9 February 2011: military covenant. In June 2010 Cameron said a promise of duty of care in return for the military's sacrifices would be enshrined in law. But the armed forces bill eventually published required the Ministry of Defence only to produce an annual report on the covenant.

26 December 2010: Bookstart. Writers such as Philip Pullman and Andrew Motion protested in December 2010 after the government announced plans to scrap a scheme providing free books for children, and a few days later the plan was abandoned. However, two months later it was announced that Bookstart would lose half its funding.

20 December 2010: school sports. In October 2010 Gove announced that the education department would no longer fund the £162m-a-year school sport partnerships. After heavy criticism from headteachers, Olympic sportspeople, Labour, young people and others, two months later Gove backtracked and said he had found £112m to keep the system going.

25 November 2010: domestic violence. Theresa May, the home secretary, announced in July 2010 she would abandon a scheme to remove violent partners from the family home. After pressure from charities she performed a U-turn four months later.

16 November 2010: photographer and camerawoman on the public payroll. Andrew Parsons was Cameron's personal photographer before he became prime minister, and Nicky Woodhouse made "Webcameron" videos for the Tory website, but there was an outcry when they were placed on the public payroll when the Tories took office. Cameron defended this as a cost-saving measure, but a few days later decided the Conservative party would pay their salaries.

12 November 2010: rape anonymity. In the coalition agreement in May 2010, the Tories and Liberal Democrats had suggested extending anonymity in rape cases to defendants. After protests from women's groups, who said it would have sent a message to juries that victims in rape cases should not be believed, five months later the government said there was not sufficient evidence to justify the move and scrapped it.

9 September 2010: NHS Direct. In August 2010 the Department of Health said the NHS Direct service would be scrapped. A month later Lansley said the department just meant the phone number.

8 August 2010: free school milk. Anne Milton, a Tory health minister, suggested withdrawing the scheme that gives free school milk to under-fives. The idea was quickly stamped on by No 10 – presumably because of its echoes of Margaret Thatcher's scrapping of free milk for seven- to 11-year-olds in 1971.

5 July 2010: dissolution of parliament. In what was greeted with delight by the media as the first big U-turn of the coalition, the government's plans to block the dissolution of parliament without the agreement of at least 55% of MPs were altered to allow a simple majority of MPs to trigger such a dissolution.


Didn't really think it through did you?

Ha,.... some people might see that as sensible flexible democratic government..... review of policy is good practice, and I suspect there would and could be a similar list made for each successive govt., well maybe not so much the last lot, they fairly well stuck to their guns, even though it was clearly not working for most of the population.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,883
Crap Town
*slow hand claps*
You don't actually think this has anything to do with Tory governing do you? Hahaha.
The country has gone to the dogs in their tax the poor and f*** the eonvironment reign and I'm looking forward to the Thatcher government paedo ring picking up some steam in the news . Better get it out there before she dies too.
Was there a paedophile ring in No 10? MP Tom Watson demands probe - Crime - UK - The Independent

If the perpetrators are still living they could well be in the seventies , eighties or nineties. They should be hunted down like nazi war criminals.
 


Colossal Squid

Returning video tapes
Feb 11, 2010
4,906
Under the sea
Ha,.... some people might see that as sensible flexible democratic government..... review of policy is good practice, and I suspect there would and could be a similar list made for each successive govt., well maybe not so much the last lot, they fairly well stuck to their guns, even though it was clearly not working for most of the population.

That's irrelevant.

The claim was that the current government stuck to their guns. It was laughably inaccurate.

Your point is that you don't like the Labour government that was previously in power. Well done, nor did many of the rest of us. That's why we voted them out
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,883
Crap Town
I'm sure Foam Mouth and Balls will have an answer for all this. I hope Labour stay well clear of running this country, however I have a bad feeling they might get back in.

All the time they spout this rubbish that The Tories only care about rich people, and the Tories are evil, the more people will fall for it. We can all agree that too much money has gone out of the system for years and has been given to people who should have absolutely no rights to it, while the rest of us keep paying taxes.

I think you'll find two thirds of voters already know the Tories only care for rich people and are evil.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,277
In the mists of time Gordon Brown will be thought of as a very good chancellor and lets be honest here, Darling was getting the country moving again after the world economics fell over.

I know you will point out selling the gold, but hindsight is a great thing, we still had 10+ years of good living while GB was chancellor and it was not his fault the worlds economy went pop!!

Where as Gidion cant chew gum and walk in a straight line....

BTW I have never voted Labour.

Apart from his policies that madee the poor poorer through stealth taxes and ill thought out schemes like the car srapage scheme which took the cheap cars off the road and put up the prices of old second hand cars, pricing many out of vehicle ownership. Then there is the runaway housing market which has now priced out a lot of 1st time buyers and had the knock on effect of higher rents for those who can't afford to buy (again squeezing the low earners spending power, forcing more debt, etc) and so on.
 


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